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#4572, "Wake up!"
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No, it's never the players!! My ass! How much cheating can possibly go on!? Tons and it's mainly on the players behalf.
Granted the IMMs are not perfect and IMM characters are usually powerhouses simply due to code knowledge (this is something I can live with since these IMMs are usually fairly responsible with these characters, few and far between and don't upset the balance of the game or exploit things too badly.) I am sure Zorszaul could have been a lot worse if he wished.
So now, players feel justified to cheat as a way of getting back at the Imms. Two wrongs does not make a right. It's to the point were a new player to the MUD is royally fucked. There is no way he is gonna be able to cope with the ##### that is going on. I can hardly do it and I've been here from the beginning.
Let the IMM conspiracy theory die already. I have never been fucked by an IMM (talked down to by some childish ones once or twice however), nor seen a blatant abuse of power that was not justified by an IMM. Blame the players if anything.
But some of the blame does indeed lie with the IMMs: This goes to Valg. I got totally fed up with the OOC ##### and I reported a cheater as you had suggested to me. You know what happened? His char got summoned to the realm of the dead and left there for a few days because no IMM would deal with him. He then died in the realm of the dead and looted all his kit with his up and coming lowbie from the pit, LOL. Now that is Poetic Justice, cheating to get out of being punished for cheating. An honest player just cannot win in this game, sad but true.
I think the only thing left to do is leave CF unfortunately. I've exhausted all other avenues I am afraid. My game of choice has become too polluted and it can't recover (I've been an independent character for 6 years staying away from the OOC cheating that goes on in cabals but that no longer works I'm afraid, indpendents just cannot cope anymore). I tried switching to another game for a while, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, but the other day as I watched from another person's view after I had died, I noticed his health regenerating just standing there. Sigh, hundred bucks down the drain again.
*sniff* looks like I'm stuck playing LAN's for the rest of my life it seems. I would rather not play if I cannot simply know if others have beat me fairly or needed to cheat to do it. Can any of you?
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(DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by Gree...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 14-Feb-02 11:24 PM
Good paladins, bad paladins, immortals and such things,
Tom (Guest) (Guest),
16-Feb-02 09:25 AM, #26
RE: Good paladins, bad paladins, immortals and such thi...,
shokai,
17-Feb-02 02:47 AM, #47
Shokai you cheater.,
Xanthrailles,
18-Feb-02 01:46 AM, #60
RE: Shokai you cheater.,
Falstaff,
20-Feb-02 04:59 PM, #75
I don't even know why I'm bothering.,
nepenthe,
17-Feb-02 03:21 AM, #50
and when a smugger assassinated you, you deleted! haha ...,
Arolin (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 06:21 PM, #59
Heh. No.,
nepenthe,
18-Feb-02 11:04 AM, #62
oww man..,
Shinomori (Guest),
22-Feb-02 02:05 AM, #77
Clarifications, Advice, and maybe even a witty remark.....,
shokai,
15-Feb-02 07:06 PM, #22
RE: Clarifications, Advice, and maybe even a witty rema...,
uncle bob (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 07:40 PM, #23
More clarifications, important topic included.,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 12:06 AM, #24
RE: More clarifications, important topic included.,
Nicolette (Guest) (Guest),
16-Feb-02 02:44 AM, #25
RE: More clarifications, important topic included.,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 01:07 PM, #30
RE: More clarifications, important topic included.,
ORB,
16-Feb-02 02:41 PM, #31
Your simple-minded conclusion doesn't convince me.,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 03:02 PM, #32
It was your conculsion not mine, read your first post a...,
ORB,
16-Feb-02 03:36 PM, #33
I'm almost out of piss, when does the contest end?,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 04:17 PM, #34
Did I say you were a gear hoarder?,
shokai,
16-Feb-02 09:07 PM, #39
Cool, a response!,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 10:17 PM, #42
and another!,
shokai,
17-Feb-02 12:28 AM, #43
RE: and another!,
Isildur (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 01:19 AM, #44
A small question for Yourself and Nepenthe.,
Xanthrailles,
18-Feb-02 01:50 AM, #61
RE: (DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by ...,
Nydeikon (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:36 PM, #20
We could have been Greed-Brothers!,
Albaszn (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 03:39 PM, #14
Clarification...,
Isildur (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 09:33 AM, #10
Consider it clarified...,
Boldereth,
15-Feb-02 10:00 AM, #11
RE: Consider it clarified...,
Isildur (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 03:59 PM, #15
RE: Consider it clarified...,
Nicolette (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:21 PM, #17
This was my warning.,
JAH (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:34 PM, #18
Oh, another thing...,
JAH (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:36 PM, #19
RE: Oh, another thing...,
ArChaos (Guest) (Guest),
16-Feb-02 11:02 AM, #27
RE: Oh, another thing...,
Valguarnera,
16-Feb-02 12:00 PM, #28
My bitter or ArChaos's?,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 12:38 PM, #29
How odd, I thought something was here just a second ago...,
JAH (Guest),
16-Feb-02 07:30 PM, #35
RE: How odd, I thought something was here just a second...,
Valguarnera,
16-Feb-02 08:54 PM, #37
RE: Oh, another thing...,
Aubrey (Guest) (Guest),
16-Feb-02 08:54 PM, #36
RE: Oh, another thing...,
Valguarnera,
16-Feb-02 08:57 PM, #38
Aubrey...shut up.,
shokai,
16-Feb-02 09:20 PM, #40
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
A newbie (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 03:40 AM, #51
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Heh (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 01:47 PM, #63
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Aubrey (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 06:01 PM, #67
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Isildur,
18-Feb-02 06:09 PM, #68
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Valguarnera,
18-Feb-02 06:57 PM, #70
Hmmm,
DwE (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 10:50 PM, #72
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Falstaff,
20-Feb-02 10:21 AM, #74
RE: Aubrey...shut up.,
Wemnar,
19-Feb-02 06:37 AM, #73
Compulsive lie much?,
nepenthe,
18-Feb-02 06:52 PM, #69
Wake up!,
Strohm (Guest) (Guest),
16-Feb-02 10:14 PM #41
Gotta respond to this...,
Isildur (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 01:42 AM, #45
RE: Gotta respond to this...,
Valguarnera,
17-Feb-02 02:10 AM, #46
RE: Gotta respond to this...,
Isildur,
17-Feb-02 03:01 AM, #48
RE: Gotta respond to this...,
Valguarnera,
17-Feb-02 05:58 AM, #52
To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur.,
Strohm (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 06:09 AM, #53
RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur.,
Isildur (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 10:41 AM, #55
RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur.,
JAH (Guest),
17-Feb-02 01:30 PM, #56
RE: To Brotmin, Valg and Isildur.,
Falstaff,
20-Feb-02 05:22 PM, #76
I'd drop you a post that might encourage you,
incognito,
17-Feb-02 03:04 PM, #57
Cabal corruption,
Brotmin,
17-Feb-02 03:20 AM, #49
That goes for me too.,
Warborf (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 02:14 PM, #64
Strohm I feel so sorry for you.,
Goapa (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 03:00 PM, #65
Well,
Strohm (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 03:57 PM, #66
Yes, but leika had an immortal in the past, haha, nothi...,
Smugger (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 05:37 PM, #58
RE: (DEL) <None> Ruairc the Callous Guide, Obsessed by ...,
Thornheart (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 07:05 AM, #8
but I'd have to say that you were well rounded when I s...,
JAH (Guest),
15-Feb-02 02:39 PM, #12
Well Sorry to see you go ya got me most of the way let ...,
Salezan (Guest) (Guest),
14-Feb-02 11:51 PM, #3
Damn was I greedy.,
JAH (Guest),
14-Feb-02 11:50 PM, #2
Oh yeah, my favorite round...,
JAH (Guest),
31-Dec-69 07:00 PM, #1
Forgot me eh? heh,
Ajoul (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 12:21 AM, #4
You bastard! And I thought it was Enbuergo all along.....,
JAH (Guest),
15-Feb-02 12:24 AM, #5
RE: Damn was I greedy.,
nepenthe,
15-Feb-02 02:59 AM, #6
RE: Damn was I greedy.,
ORB,
15-Feb-02 03:41 AM, #7
good paladins counted on one hand,
jasmin (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 02:54 PM, #13
well, I didn't mind dying the FIRST time,
Daurwyn (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 07:59 AM, #9
Callous? Greedy?,
Anborankein (Guest) (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:16 PM, #16
Thanks,
JAH (Guest),
15-Feb-02 04:39 PM, #21
Considering your remark.,
Sancella (Guest) (Guest),
17-Feb-02 10:26 AM, #54
RE: Damn was I greedy.,
Fristapholin (Guest) (Guest),
18-Feb-02 08:56 PM, #71
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