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Strohm (Guest) (Guest)Sat 16-Feb-02 10:14 PM

  
#4572, "Wake up!"


          

No, it's never the players!! My ass! How much cheating can possibly go on!? Tons and it's mainly on the players behalf.

Granted the IMMs are not perfect and IMM characters are usually powerhouses simply due to code knowledge (this is something I can live with since these IMMs are usually fairly responsible with these characters, few and far between and don't upset the balance of the game or exploit things too badly.) I am sure Zorszaul could have been a lot worse if he wished.

So now, players feel justified to cheat as a way of getting back at the Imms. Two wrongs does not make a right. It's to the point were a new player to the MUD is royally fucked. There is no way he is gonna be able to cope with the ##### that is going on. I can hardly do it and I've been here from the beginning.

Let the IMM conspiracy theory die already. I have never been fucked by an IMM (talked down to by some childish ones once or twice however), nor seen a blatant abuse of power that was not justified by an IMM. Blame the players if anything.

But some of the blame does indeed lie with the IMMs:
This goes to Valg. I got totally fed up with the OOC ##### and I reported a cheater as you had suggested to me. You know what happened? His char got summoned to the realm of the dead and left there for a few days because no IMM would deal with him. He then died in the realm of the dead and looted all his kit with his up and coming lowbie from the pit, LOL. Now that is Poetic Justice, cheating to get out of being punished for cheating.
An honest player just cannot win in this game, sad but true.

I think the only thing left to do is leave CF unfortunately. I've exhausted all other avenues I am afraid. My game of choice has become too polluted and it can't recover (I've been an independent character for 6 years staying away from the OOC cheating that goes on in cabals but that no longer works I'm afraid, indpendents just cannot cope anymore). I tried switching to another game for a while, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, but the other day as I watched from another person's view after I had died, I noticed his health regenerating just standing there. Sigh, hundred bucks down the drain again.

*sniff* looks like I'm stuck playing LAN's for the rest of my life it seems. I would rather not play if I cannot simply know if others have beat me fairly or needed to cheat to do it. Can any of you?

  

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