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ValguarneraTue 20-Dec-05 04:18 PM
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#43864, "Win-win bitterness."


          

It would also be hard for me to point to a player who expresses more generalized hatred for the staff... we'd be more impressed if a character like this came from a player for whom trash-talking random immortals was actually roleplaying and not just like every other day.

Thanks for saving me the time of typing all of that-- I also can't think of a player who has sown more vitriol (under at least a half-dozen aliases) for the staff than this one has, even going back a few years. One or two people are in the ballpark, I guess.

The sheer volume of tears being shed because some staff (me included, but not nearly alone) felt this character's roleplay was "just like every other day" is interesting, though the sources of the tears are not surprising in the least. Mizzarah was treated with restraint-- had we simply slaughtered or crippled him immediately, the same people would absolutely be howling about how the unfair imms abused their power and smacked him down. I know from internal discussion that this concern was a source of some of the restraint he received- people don't like dealing with the cry-fest.

And of course, the above concern is heightened when the person involved is well aware of the existence and wording of those policies, and can thus exploit them.

My personal decision was to ignore this character other than field questions from other staff about how to handle him. (For the record, it's always been my opinion that people were too conservative with Mizzarah, although I understand the hesitance originated from our internal policies about not causing mortals to die where practical. Staff have been censured or demoted in the past for taking excessive liberties there.) I remain unimpressed with the role's execution, which is a shame because the underlying concept would have been interesting in the right hands.

At the end of the day, if the worst conspiracy floating around is "Valg was unimpressed by a character and gave his reasons for it.", we're doing a pretty good job.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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HOT Locked Topic(DELETED) [None] Mizzarah the Voiceless, Torn from the ... [View all] , Death_Angel, Wed 21-Dec-05 01:34 AM
Reply Goodbyes., Mizzarah (Guest), 08-Dec-05 06:25 PM, #4
Reply Basically..., Arvam, 08-Dec-05 07:36 PM, #5
Reply Yup. Thanks! N/t, Mizzarah (Guest), 08-Dec-05 08:33 PM, #8
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Therethine (Guest), 08-Dec-05 07:37 PM, #6
Reply ps. Feeling generous, got your PBF. n/t, Therethine (Guest), 08-Dec-05 07:44 PM, #7
     Reply Thanks! N/t, Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 01:04 AM, #9
Reply Rather thoroughly impressed by the character of Mizzara..., Garjamasra (Guest), 09-Dec-05 02:24 AM, #10
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Aarn, 09-Dec-05 09:40 AM, #11
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Enbuergo1 (Guest), 09-Dec-05 11:53 AM, #13
Reply Heh., DCUnreg (Guest), 09-Dec-05 12:05 PM, #14
Reply RE: Heh., Valguarnera, 09-Dec-05 02:28 PM, #20
     Reply This is a reasonable post., DCUnreg (Guest), 09-Dec-05 03:11 PM, #23
     Reply Don't I know it! ~, Pro-Man (Guest), 09-Dec-05 05:10 PM, #31
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Aarn, 09-Dec-05 01:24 PM, #16
     Reply Nobody's stopping you from posting on Dio's, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 09-Dec-05 01:32 PM, #17
Reply If you want him to post here he'd have to be unbanned. ..., DCUnreg (Guest), 09-Dec-05 12:07 PM, #15
Reply That is also true. I was banned from these forums until..., Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 03:28 PM, #24
     Reply Valg must've accidentally unbanned you when he unbanned..., DCUnreg (Guest), 09-Dec-05 03:32 PM, #26
Reply Wow..., Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 01:40 PM, #18
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Kastellyn, 09-Dec-05 11:51 AM, #12
Reply RE: Goodbyes., ordasen, 09-Dec-05 02:11 PM, #19
Reply RE: Goodbyes., Valguarnera, 09-Dec-05 02:35 PM, #21
     Reply My role eluded to my insanity and the emergence of how ..., Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 03:41 PM, #27
          Reply RE: My role eluded to my insanity and the emergence of ..., shokai, 09-Dec-05 04:30 PM, #29
          Reply RE: My role eluded to my insanity and the emergence of ..., Aarn, 09-Dec-05 05:01 PM, #30
               Reply Cool, I just don't want any hard feelings., Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 05:21 PM, #32
Reply Darn, Eshval, 09-Dec-05 03:09 PM, #22
Reply Sending me to the nightwalkers area was classy (good wa..., Mizzarah (Guest), 09-Dec-05 03:30 PM, #25
Reply RE: Goodbyes., shokai, 09-Dec-05 04:22 PM, #28
Reply Well well, Sarmas (Guest), 10-Dec-05 03:49 AM, #33
Reply Good job, Khasotholas, 10-Dec-05 09:40 AM, #34
Reply The obligatory call-out., nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 01:38 PM, #35
     Reply Before I forget, a somewhat unrelated question:, nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 02:03 PM, #36
     Reply That shaman and others., Mizzarah (Guest), 20-Dec-05 03:22 PM, #37
          Reply RE: That shaman and others., nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 03:26 PM, #38
     Reply RE: The obligatory call-out., DC Unreg (Guest), 20-Dec-05 04:01 PM, #39
     Reply I'll be short., Mizzarah (Guest), 20-Dec-05 04:05 PM, #40
     Reply I'll also be short., nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 04:17 PM, #41
          Reply I give up, you win. Believe what you want., Mizzarah (Guest), 20-Dec-05 05:42 PM, #46
               Reply Here's my challenge:, nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 05:53 PM, #48
                    Reply And the same for you Nepenthe., Mizzarah (Guest), 20-Dec-05 06:03 PM, #49
                         Reply Accountability., Valguarnera, 20-Dec-05 06:19 PM, #50
     Reply Win-win bitterness., Valguarnera, 20-Dec-05 04:18 PM #42
          Reply Aside for the players:, nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 04:46 PM, #43
          Reply Interesting!, Not_interesting (Guest), 20-Dec-05 05:08 PM, #44
               Reply RE: Interesting!, nepenthe, 20-Dec-05 05:22 PM, #45
          Reply Heh., DC Unreg (Guest), 20-Dec-05 05:52 PM, #47
Reply I am amazed you went that long without deleting., Bajula, 08-Dec-05 01:17 PM, #3
Reply I don't care what anyone else thinks. You were the shi..., Kruuank (Guest), 08-Dec-05 12:02 AM, #1
     Reply I don't care what anyone else thinks..., Karel, 08-Dec-05 12:09 AM, #2
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