I don't think I am the one you are talking about here.

>>Just a short snapshot from yesterday. We raid the Fortress and
>have an evil and neutral outlander plus a maran sitting
>outside the Fortress, then we raid Outlanders and have the
>said maran retrieving his items at the same time ( their
>communication is perfect ) and also we slay two villagers
>inside the Refuge. A bit later we raid the village and after a
>big battle when everybody got wounded and when Destructor was
>already convulsing we have outlanders ( invoker + warrior )
>coming inside the village and rescuing them from being
>raided.

Come on be honest here. If your enemies were as unified as you say they would destroy you.

If I'm an evil outlander and fortress has the codex (fill in fort mage and battle here or what ever) I can't kill one of the five maran on? Even if I catch one alone and start winning they will Cry in help. I can't kill one of the five empire on. They will be together and even a syphilitic chimpanzee playing Nabburak's character should beat me since one of his many emperor powers negates my only strong cabal power.

I may not be able to pick anyone off when the five fight the five, but it is role appropriate for me to try and I sure will. It doesn't take communication between cabals to figure out that empire is going to go get their item back from the cabal that has it when they have the numbers to do it.

You are right about one thing though, a lot of people in empire are going to feel the hurt of Vinson being gone come raid time.