DurNominator | Mon 24-Jan-05 02:09 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#34518, "It is not Kelin that I am defending."
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Kelin is nothing more than an example case. I fight against the "he is inactive now, let's uninduct him"-policy, according which, even though in Kelin's case, the player came back and played. I do not comment whether he should have been uninducted if he neglegted his duties to Fortress at the times he was on.
You said that he should have been uninducted because he didn't play the game enough, which is an OOC reason. The reason which Imms presented for uninduction for not playing was basically because the char had become only something the player used to check the tidings of the cabal, and was probably playing another char already.
Therefore, not playing CF enough is not a reason to boot Kelin, as he came back and played the char, it was not there for tidings check only, which is why I do not understand why being inactive (this means not playing the game, not being elsewhere IC) would have justified the boot in this case.
And what I think of Kelin. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I don't remember interacting with Kelin. The whole issue was about booting him for inactivity, which is an OOC reason and the issue here has been how often Kelin's player played the game, not what the char did. I stand against booting for such OOC reason and I think that the person who makes the decision to boot for such a reason should have some tool to check when the char he played was in the game last time and how long a session he played(or other such Imm-tools).
I see such bootings as game mechanics issue, so the person who would do them should have a tool to monitor player activity. In other words, I think that mortal leaders are not competent to do this kind of booting of players this and Imms shouldn't expect this from them.
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(AGE DEATH) [FORTRESS] Kelin the Legend of the Battlefi...
[View all] , Death_Angel , Fri 28-Jan-05 01:15 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (AGE DEATH) [FORTRESS] Kelin the Legend of the Batt...,
Muuloc,
29-Jan-05 12:54 PM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Are you Zargu?,
Dwoggurd,
21-Jan-05 04:48 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Are you Zargu?,
Zargu,
27-Jan-05 06:21 AM, #47
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (AGE DEATH) [FORTRESS] Kelin the Legend of the Batt...,
Desmonn Kinnt (Guest),
21-Jan-05 09:31 AM, #22
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) This was a long ride,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 04:45 PM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Har!,
Iborenn (Guest),
20-Jan-05 04:50 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I i,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 09:19 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I intend to uphold it,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 09:19 PM, #11
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'll post my logs the statistics pretty much point out ...,
Iborenn (Guest),
21-Jan-05 09:09 AM, #21
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: This was a long ride,
Shisi. (Guest),
20-Jan-05 04:55 PM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Good times,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 09:25 PM, #12
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I have to be honest...,
Vladamir,
20-Jan-05 05:06 PM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'll second this, but add:,
Heas (Guest),
20-Jan-05 05:20 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I have to be honest...,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 09:44 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Dude, if you don't want to listen to TWO leaders, nothi...,
Vladamir,
20-Jan-05 10:59 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) In Kelins defense...,
Lightmaged (Guest),
21-Jan-05 01:19 AM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Kelin......,
Blobqirt. (Guest),
21-Jan-05 06:03 AM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Game or job?,
General_Malaise,
21-Jan-05 11:17 AM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Maybe its just my perspective, but I'm calling BS.,
Martainn,
21-Jan-05 09:34 AM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Exactly.,
Valguarnera ,
21-Jan-05 11:34 AM, #25
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Valg look at when he was rolled.,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 11:46 AM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Dude, can I buy drugs from the guy you buy drugs from? ...,
Nightwiggler (Guest),
21-Jan-05 12:07 PM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) If I log a character in for an hour a week, eventually ...,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 12:21 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) He was emperor. And age died. That is the antithesis of...,
Nightwiggler. (Guest),
21-Jan-05 12:28 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) You're being deliberately obtuse.,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 01:00 PM, #32
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Re: Obtuse.,
Valguarnera ,
21-Jan-05 01:11 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Thats not true.,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 01:30 PM, #48
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) So,,
Martainn,
21-Jan-05 01:46 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) At this point it's not even about that.,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 01:50 PM, #36
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Kelin put on more than that. CF is only about 10 years ...,
DurNominator,
21-Jan-05 12:58 PM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I started out trying to be constructive, so I'll go bac...,
Vladamir,
21-Jan-05 11:42 AM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) At this point I'd like to distinguish my comments from ...,
Heas (Guest),
21-Jan-05 02:44 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Kelin was often around.,
DurNominator,
21-Jan-05 11:54 AM, #28
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Nice work.,
Waeldyn (Guest),
20-Jan-05 05:16 PM, #5
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My oh my,
Akscereh (Guest),
20-Jan-05 05:50 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Thank you for the kind words,
Kelin (Guest),
20-Jan-05 09:46 PM, #14
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: This was a long ride,
Lightmaged (Guest),
20-Jan-05 06:16 PM, #8
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: This was a long ride,
v_vegaish (Guest),
20-Jan-05 07:22 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: This was a long ride,
Ginharq (Guest),
20-Jan-05 10:18 PM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Her! Her dang it!,
Hylondin (Guest),
21-Jan-05 03:07 AM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Welp.,
Tjok. (Guest),
21-Jan-05 07:16 AM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Welp.,
Blobqirt. (Guest),
23-Jan-05 09:12 PM, #40
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Also something to bear in mind...,
Vladamir,
23-Jan-05 10:25 PM, #41
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) So, Kelin was inactive at times...,
DurNominator,
24-Jan-05 04:13 AM, #42
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So, Kelin was inactive at times...,
Vladamir,
24-Jan-05 07:31 AM, #43
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: So, Kelin was inactive at times...,
Valguarnera ,
24-Jan-05 10:25 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It is not Kelin that I am defending.,
DurNominator,
24-Jan-05 02:09 PM #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A good character,
Unthurok (Guest),
21-Jan-05 12:15 PM, #38
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The good, the bad, and the ugly.,
Straklaw,
24-Jan-05 11:37 AM, #45
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