>But in the end, he came and played. So he wasn't "dead wood"
>to be tossed out. The char was played. That alone proves that
>not booting him was the right call, now that he is gone and we
>know better.

No, even knowing what I know now, I still think he should have gotten the boot. You just have no idea what things were like then, and how few of us there were. He could have re-applied when he had more time, but for that time frame (and frequently after), he was just dead weight.

>"I rolled Celebrimbor in March of last year. According to
>Valg, Kelin rolled in January. Thats 3 months difference, and
>yet I was a hero while Kelin was still in the very low-mid
>ranks."
>
>Perhaps you power-ranked more effectively? It took Fungor 360
>hours to hero, perhaps Kelin was slow to Hero as well?

I never EVER power rank. It took me 314 hours to hit hero. A large part of it was his never being on, and coupled with that was an apathy that Golron also picked up on, hence his telling him he had advancement requirements to stay in the Fort.

The long and short of it is, you're still (as I have repeatedly said) just never going to understand the frustration with no-show cabal members that we had to deal with at the time. Whatever else Kelin may (or may not have) done with his character, he was unreliable in a whole slew of areas, and thats the one word I would best use to sum him up if I had to pick just one. Unreliable.

I'm not sure why you're so aggressively defending him, or why it's so vital to you that everyone be convinced Kelin was Uber-l33t-ultra-top-guy or whatever the #### award you are trying to win for him. The fact remains this is my opinion. In this instance my opinion is (as far as Kelin being unreliable) not unsupported by others who were in the Fort, both at that time and more recently. Seriously, you weren't there, you just don't know. Now climb down off of Kelins jock, and just agree to disagree on this.

You think Kelin was a swell guy who was on plenty and loved orphans and widows? Thats just super for you. Run with that and find your joy. But my opinion is just different, and no amount of "But maybe" or "Perhaps you" or "But he DID play....eventually" is going to change the fact that AT THE TIME, I would have been perfectly justified to remove him, and based on his lack of commitment to the cabal regret not doing so. Whatever he did since is irrelevant (and also not exactly anything to brag about) to how infrequently he was on then. Nothing you can say will change the fact that he's all but admitted on this very thread to hiding out in the silent tower when the odds weren't in his favor. Nothing you can say will change his explosive and assanine reaction to what started out as constructive criticism, and escalated into a huge thread for a character that frankly didn't deserve so much discussion.

The people who were there at the time know what I'm talking about. Everyone in the Fortress at one time or another was screwed over because Kelin just wasn't available to pull his own weight. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but thats just how it is. No amount of "But...but..." is going to change my mind about Kelin.

The horse is ####ing dead already, let the poor beast lie.