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VladamirThu 20-Jan-05 10:59 PM
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#34355, "Dude, if you don't want to listen to TWO leaders, nothing else will get through."


          

>This is not correct. My life, I mean my real life dictates
>when I can play. I feel sorry for you if you disagree.

This is correct. You may not agree with it, but it is correct. Thats how it happened, it's NOT up for debate. It's not about your real life or not real life. Just wanting to be in a cabal doesn't excuse you from the expectations your leader puts on you, no matter if you agree with them or not. You took up space at a time when we had damned few members, and weren't allowed to induct more. You're not entitled to a spot in a cabal, just because you want to be there. There's nothing uncommon about removing people from a cabal for poor attendance. Your attendance was (especially at that point) poor.

>Second I did step up my time. And ironically I was defending
>you on and off all over from Fortress to Galadon from this
>Beast Scion fire giant axes/h2h (forgot his name) when you got
>pincered at Galadon Atlar and con-died.

You need to remember that better. I was there because You were being attacked. It was 3 people, not one. And it also has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand. I could post the log, but it's just moot at this point anyway and really not germaine to the topic.

>Honestly from all leaders I served under I was least
>comfortable with Celebrimbor. Not because of any personal
>things between us but rather because of questionable orders
>you gave and tried to enforce.

Thats fine, but still has nothing to do with what I said. You seem to have totally overlooked the constructive aspect of what I wrote, namely that you needed to be around more, and decided to be offended by it. Whatever.

>
>Simply put I dont like sitting on my ass waiting for something
>to happen. Kelin was an explorer as well as a fighter.

Which is fine. but he was ALSO a member of a cabal, and had responsibilities to that cabal, that he frequently shrugged off.

>When 7 scions/imperials come and cut through Maran/Watcher in
>less when a minute you just shrug your shoulders in
>disbelief.
> For imms: Maran Tara'bal hps should be seriously boosted. And
>Watcher offensive powers should be boosted as well.)

Again, none of this has a single thing to do with you being off in the Silent Tour for literally days on end. Nothing at all. Why do you even bring it up? When 7 Marans attack any cabal they slice through the guardians in less than a minute too. I agree about the Watcher, but your other points are just really out there and off topic.

>What could 2 or 3 marans do in such situation?
>Quitting or waiting for some enemies to quit? Not my way.

So you go and hide in the silent tower instead? is that your way? There are ample ways to defend with odds stacked against you. You saying this just really makes you look weak.

>By the way if you are willing to say something constructive, I
>am willing to listen. Overwise shut the %$&&*(*&^% up!

My entire post WAS constructive. Just because I didn't go all ass kissy and I said some things you may not want to hear doesn't make it not constructive. You've now had *2* cabal leaders from different periods of time tell you when you were on you were "absent" a lot. I'm clearly not alone in my opinion. If you can't take that as constructive, then nothing else I could say will make any difference anyway, so I'll just save my breath.

  

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                    Reply You're being deliberately obtuse., Vladamir, 21-Jan-05 01:00 PM, #32
                         Reply Re: Obtuse., Valguarnera, 21-Jan-05 01:11 PM, #34
                              Reply Thats not true., Vladamir, 21-Jan-05 01:30 PM, #48
                                   Reply So,, Martainn, 21-Jan-05 01:46 PM, #35
                                        Reply At this point it's not even about that., Vladamir, 21-Jan-05 01:50 PM, #36
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