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BolderethMon 05-Jan-04 01:19 PM
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I've had a Vindicator before and spoken with both Astein and Bria at length. More or less to sum up my driving point here :

When you're a Vindicator you no longer get to try to sneak things in. There's no leniency anymore, because people both in the cabal and out of the cabal look at you as an example. You know why you aren't supposed to kill city guards and/or citizen mobiles while on duty? Ok, take the reasoning behind that thought and apply it to the perception of injustice within the Spire. Being a Vindicator is both a bonus and a burden. You are hired to do a job by the cities. The powers aren't there to help you boost your ratio 'off hours', they're there to provide the means to kill criminals. Once that Vindy tag is slapped on your name, there's a higher level of standard for your actions.

I've written dozens of things about the Tribunal stating a lot of similar things to what you're saying, about them being mercenaries and etc. But more or less each position in the spire has its own duties. Imagine it like the difference between what its acceptable for a traffic cop to do in public, compared to the Chief of police.

I'm actually beginning to think this situation was less Oblain and your fault, and more the fault of either changing direction for the Tribunal cabal or lack of immortal intervention on mistakes. Maybe now they've lowered the bar for being a Vindicator and Justiciar. If thats so then its sad, considering the positions (as Bria said to me) are supposed to be ones that are hard to get and harder to keep. Thats whats always justified the powers being as they were.

  

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HOT Locked Topic(DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Oblain kun Quinslin the Gladiator ... [View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 08-Jan-04 03:28 PM
Reply Thread locked. I'm tired of the back-and-forth. (n/t), Valguarnera, 08-Jan-04 03:29 PM, #51
Reply Quite the story, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:15 AM, #10
Reply RE: Quite the story, Kackrik (Guest), 04-Jan-04 04:15 AM, #15
Reply Heh, that would make two of us., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:46 AM, #38
     Reply The only reply I'm going to give you, Kackrik (Guest), 06-Jan-04 01:16 AM, #40
     Reply Ouch Kackrik!, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 06-Jan-04 07:01 PM, #47
     Reply Uhh, is THIS what you call "getting attacked at the inn..., Gargargh (Guest), 08-Jan-04 02:40 PM, #50
Reply Good times, Tichniktil (Guest), 04-Jan-04 06:30 AM, #16
Reply Great job. Ignore the detractors., Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 10:49 AM, #18
Reply Never made mistakes..., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 10:06 PM, #20
Reply This is a horrible example of a "mistake", Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 10:40 PM, #21
Reply I snipped out the rest of the conversation., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 11:10 PM, #22
     Reply Straw man. Simply ignore my bolded statement., Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 11:12 PM, #23
     Reply RE: Straw man. Simply ignore my bolded statement., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 11:37 PM, #24
          Reply Unfortunately..., permanewbie, 05-Jan-04 07:25 AM, #25
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Daurwyn (Guest), 05-Jan-04 08:34 AM, #26
          Reply I don't think the issue was really just his PKing outsi..., Vladamir, 05-Jan-04 10:28 AM, #29
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:07 PM, #30
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 11:11 PM, #45
          Reply Related comments:, Kelrizza (Guest), 05-Jan-04 09:54 AM, #27
               Reply Because I messed up that post a little, Kelrizza (Guest), 05-Jan-04 10:04 AM, #28
               Reply RE: Because I messed up that post a little, Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:33 PM, #32
               Reply Har, I love that log., The Forsaken (Guest), 05-Jan-04 03:16 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Related comments:, Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:19 PM #31
     Reply RE: I snipped out the rest of the conversation., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:51 AM, #39
Reply Hello Mr.Clueless can I help you ?, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:34 AM, #37
Reply This is not true..., Dugruain, 06-Jan-04 01:17 AM, #41
     Reply Hey, Oblain...., Dugruain, 06-Jan-04 10:20 AM, #43
     Reply RE: This is not true..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 11:00 PM, #44
Reply RE: Never made mistakes..., Oblain (Guest), 07-Jan-04 02:38 AM, #46
Reply Good Luck, Nimaray (Guest), 05-Jan-04 02:14 PM, #34
Reply RE: Quite the story, Abthalok, 05-Jan-04 09:57 PM, #36
Reply Wow!, Kastellyn, 07-Jan-04 08:00 AM, #48
Reply Adios, Choranek (Anonymous), 07-Jan-04 07:48 PM, #49
Reply I guess it's over, heh, Lopner, 02-Jan-04 05:06 PM, #7
Reply RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Oblain kun Quinslin the Gladia..., Leesah (Guest), 02-Jan-04 11:59 AM, #5
Reply Wow...., Monduphel (Guest), 02-Jan-04 09:27 AM, #4
Reply Sylvans of the north ?, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:23 AM, #12
     Reply well, Mond (Guest), 04-Jan-04 09:49 AM, #17
Reply Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but I'm..., Janitor (Guest), 02-Jan-04 01:46 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Odelius, 02-Jan-04 05:56 AM, #3
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., IsildurUnReg (Guest), 02-Jan-04 05:27 PM, #8
          Reply I don't know about you but I like to earn my warrants, kas, 02-Jan-04 06:11 PM, #9
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Boldereth, 02-Jan-04 03:51 AM, #6
     Reply When they ignore blatant abuse of cabal powers, it can ..., Vladamir, 02-Jan-04 04:39 AM, #2
          Reply RE: When they ignore blatant abuse of cabal powers, it ..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:17 AM, #11
               Reply I have logs of you doing it, but it would give away who..., Vladamir, 04-Jan-04 03:50 AM, #14
                    Reply That's a great excuse! n/t, Mina, 04-Jan-04 11:23 AM, #33
                         Reply It is actually.., Bemus-ed (Guest), 04-Jan-04 08:56 PM, #19
                              Reply Well.., Mina, 06-Jan-04 07:44 AM, #42
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:29 AM, #13
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