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Kelrizza (Guest)Sun 04-Jan-04 11:12 PM

  
#23378, "Straw man. Simply ignore my bolded statement."


          

>First of all, now you can't get into the spire unless you're a tribunal. They blocked off the entrance.

Untrue. The entrance is part of the Spire.

>The reason for this is because of retrievals

This has nothing to do with a retrieval, so ignore that point.

>Secondly, that's never been a protected area.

That doesn't matter. The Spire and the laws have changed.

>I didn't bother to search through my logs for the rest of the convo, you are mistaken on Zaklotel's thoughts. I know he mistook you for him

That was part of my point. Read, comprehend and all that. From my previous post: "Or perhaps he thought you actually did attack Kelrizza and since Kelrizza didn't flag you, you shouldn't be flagged."

>Oblain stated, 'I wasn't really paying attention', great job, you're bashing away at someone as a Vindicator who did nothing wrong.

See my bolded point in my previous post. Whether or not he was paying attention is irrelevant.

>Pretty sad that you don't know the laws either actually. Kordenik wasn't protected there, at all.

See my point about laws changing.

>I know the laws pretty well. They've changed very slightly, and what you spoke of is entirely incorrect. If anything, Kordenik should've been told to leave and I asked to leave.

You may have KNOWN the laws pretty well, but you obviously are too close minded to understand the law as it is. The laws may be defined, but everything is open to interpretation. Nothing that was done here falls outside an interpretation of the laws as they are.

>When you have a flag next to your name you are on duty. Protected areas are defined nicely in the laws.

Now AND at that point in time you have the flag next to your name in the Spire. There is a possibility that this occurred during a brief time during the reconstruction of the Spire when the area was flagged incorrectly and Tribunals were not on duty in the Spire. That was fixed for the next reboot.

But that doesn't really matter, as you never answered the most important statement I had in my previous post. I'll repost it here so that there's a chance you may read it:

Either you should have been a criminal for attacking Kordenik and Oblain and Zaklotel were justified for attacking you, or that area is unprotected and Oblain and Zaklotel were completely in their rights for attacking you in the same spot that you attacked Kordenik. Which is it?

  

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HOT Locked Topic(DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Oblain kun Quinslin the Gladiator ... [View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 08-Jan-04 03:28 PM
Reply Thread locked. I'm tired of the back-and-forth. (n/t), Valguarnera, 08-Jan-04 03:29 PM, #51
Reply Quite the story, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:15 AM, #10
Reply RE: Quite the story, Kackrik (Guest), 04-Jan-04 04:15 AM, #15
Reply Heh, that would make two of us., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:46 AM, #38
     Reply The only reply I'm going to give you, Kackrik (Guest), 06-Jan-04 01:16 AM, #40
     Reply Ouch Kackrik!, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 06-Jan-04 07:01 PM, #47
     Reply Uhh, is THIS what you call "getting attacked at the inn..., Gargargh (Guest), 08-Jan-04 02:40 PM, #50
Reply Good times, Tichniktil (Guest), 04-Jan-04 06:30 AM, #16
Reply Great job. Ignore the detractors., Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 10:49 AM, #18
Reply Never made mistakes..., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 10:06 PM, #20
Reply This is a horrible example of a "mistake", Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 10:40 PM, #21
Reply I snipped out the rest of the conversation., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 11:10 PM, #22
     Reply Straw man. Simply ignore my bolded statement., Kelrizza (Guest), 04-Jan-04 11:12 PM #23
     Reply RE: Straw man. Simply ignore my bolded statement., Boldereth, 04-Jan-04 11:37 PM, #24
          Reply Unfortunately..., permanewbie, 05-Jan-04 07:25 AM, #25
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Daurwyn (Guest), 05-Jan-04 08:34 AM, #26
          Reply I don't think the issue was really just his PKing outsi..., Vladamir, 05-Jan-04 10:28 AM, #29
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:07 PM, #30
          Reply RE: Unfortunately..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 11:11 PM, #45
          Reply Related comments:, Kelrizza (Guest), 05-Jan-04 09:54 AM, #27
               Reply Because I messed up that post a little, Kelrizza (Guest), 05-Jan-04 10:04 AM, #28
               Reply RE: Because I messed up that post a little, Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:33 PM, #32
               Reply Har, I love that log., The Forsaken (Guest), 05-Jan-04 03:16 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Related comments:, Boldereth, 05-Jan-04 01:19 PM, #31
     Reply RE: I snipped out the rest of the conversation., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:51 AM, #39
Reply Hello Mr.Clueless can I help you ?, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 12:34 AM, #37
Reply This is not true..., Dugruain, 06-Jan-04 01:17 AM, #41
     Reply Hey, Oblain...., Dugruain, 06-Jan-04 10:20 AM, #43
     Reply RE: This is not true..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 06-Jan-04 11:00 PM, #44
Reply RE: Never made mistakes..., Oblain (Guest), 07-Jan-04 02:38 AM, #46
Reply Good Luck, Nimaray (Guest), 05-Jan-04 02:14 PM, #34
Reply RE: Quite the story, Abthalok, 05-Jan-04 09:57 PM, #36
Reply Wow!, Kastellyn, 07-Jan-04 08:00 AM, #48
Reply Adios, Choranek (Anonymous), 07-Jan-04 07:48 PM, #49
Reply I guess it's over, heh, Lopner, 02-Jan-04 05:06 PM, #7
Reply RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Oblain kun Quinslin the Gladia..., Leesah (Guest), 02-Jan-04 11:59 AM, #5
Reply Wow...., Monduphel (Guest), 02-Jan-04 09:27 AM, #4
Reply Sylvans of the north ?, Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:23 AM, #12
     Reply well, Mond (Guest), 04-Jan-04 09:49 AM, #17
Reply Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but I'm..., Janitor (Guest), 02-Jan-04 01:46 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Odelius, 02-Jan-04 05:56 AM, #3
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., IsildurUnReg (Guest), 02-Jan-04 05:27 PM, #8
          Reply I don't know about you but I like to earn my warrants, kas, 02-Jan-04 06:11 PM, #9
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Boldereth, 02-Jan-04 03:51 AM, #6
     Reply When they ignore blatant abuse of cabal powers, it can ..., Vladamir, 02-Jan-04 04:39 AM, #2
          Reply RE: When they ignore blatant abuse of cabal powers, it ..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:17 AM, #11
               Reply I have logs of you doing it, but it would give away who..., Vladamir, 04-Jan-04 03:50 AM, #14
                    Reply That's a great excuse! n/t, Mina, 04-Jan-04 11:23 AM, #33
                         Reply It is actually.., Bemus-ed (Guest), 04-Jan-04 08:56 PM, #19
                              Reply Well.., Mina, 06-Jan-04 07:44 AM, #42
     Reply RE: Very rarely to I approve of something Vlad says but..., Uncle Oblain (Guest), 04-Jan-04 03:29 AM, #13
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