Valguarnera | Fri 26-Mar-04 12:56 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#4177, "RE: Good Killing Neutral"
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1. It's been historical thing and accepted for a long time
No, it hasn't. Egregious cases have been dealt with for a long time. We obviously don't turn everyone evil the first time they kill a neutral mob, and it's not at the top of the list of bad roleplay, but it's not a trivial problem either.
2. Playability (Tarus bracers)
Plenty of alternatives. If I see a strong example (dwarf paladin killing Tarus for gear, etc), I'll happily thump the person in question. In most cases, I'll just be unimpressed and maybe make a note.
3. Visiting chessmasters and elsewhere (if any)
You've obviously never read that butler's description.
4. Unfair advantage (If Good can't kill neutral for eq, then all things considered, Evil has more access to more equipment. Also because Evil can kill Evil for equipment, and are not bound by the request-within-same-level-region barrier)
- Request is a pretty nice balance. It's much more useful that being able to kill things of your own alignment in a general sense. - You'll generally have a role reason to kill certain neutrals. A Tribunal would probably feel justified taking the fight to neutral bandits, etc. - There's a difference between "neutral because of no beliefs" (e.g., a squirrel, a golem) and "neutral because of beliefs" (e.g. that squirrel's protector druid, a wood-elf).
On the same topic, why aren't the imms bearing down more on svirfs who act for all intents and purposes, like mass murderers?
We also regularly turn neutral characters into betrayers if they ignore enough warnings. We've also turned some neutrals good (against their will) for toadying to the Fortress constantly and basically acting "good". You might not see it much because they tend to delete.
It's definitely not the kind of roleplay that gets you noticed or rewarded.
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
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Good Killing Neutral
[View all] , Thelleneor, Fri 09-Apr-04 11:49 AM
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Isildur,
13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #50
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Isildur,
13-Feb-07 11:14 AM, #51
you crack me up,
laxman,
13-Feb-07 02:58 PM, #52
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
ellen,
13-Feb-07 10:33 AM, #49
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Boldereth,
12-Apr-04 09:42 AM, #47
The way I handle it...,
Vladamir,
27-Mar-04 07:22 PM, #28
I hope they change it so they just decline. nt,
Cerunnir,
27-Mar-04 07:44 PM, #29
Yeah because actually roleplaying it out is bad for the...,
Vladamir,
27-Mar-04 08:09 PM, #30
It isnt roleplay wise good that Ludan attack you outrig...,
Cerunnir,
27-Mar-04 07:53 PM, #31
Why not?,
Vladamir,
27-Mar-04 08:08 PM, #32
What about. Dispose of his fool, elite dwarven guards. ...,
Cerunnir,
27-Mar-04 08:12 PM, #33
on the other hand,
incognito,
27-Mar-04 10:21 PM, #34
Yes but as a paladin I felt obligated not to stereotype...,
Vladamir,
28-Mar-04 04:23 PM, #35
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Sevarecan,
26-Mar-04 09:48 PM, #19
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Isildur,
26-Mar-04 07:43 PM, #17
Agreed (n/t),
Valguarnera,
26-Mar-04 11:06 PM, #20
Good to have you back, Isildur. (n/t),
Little Timmy (Anonymous),
27-Mar-04 03:46 PM, #27
In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using it a...,
Wilhath,
26-Mar-04 03:20 PM, #6
Seeking clarity.,
General_Malaise,
26-Mar-04 03:31 PM, #7
RE: In CF, the precedent means nothing...so stop using ...,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 05:43 PM, #9
I don't think playability is an issue.,
Wilhath,
26-Mar-04 06:22 PM, #10
RE: I don't think playability is an issue.,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 06:56 PM, #14
Generally, yes.,
Wilhath,
27-Mar-04 11:41 AM, #24
RE: Covering wear slots:,
Valguarnera,
27-Mar-04 03:16 PM, #26
Beat me to it, here's what was gonna be my post. :P,
General_Malaise,
26-Mar-04 02:56 PM, #5
For what it's worth...,
nepenthe,
06-Apr-04 09:20 PM, #38
Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
07-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #39
RE: Out of interest, how did your paladin come to wield,
nepenthe,
07-Apr-04 05:16 PM, #41
Who cares?,
Moridin,
07-Apr-04 07:36 AM, #43
Why was my answer deleted but his false accusation left...,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
08-Apr-04 03:25 AM, #44
Text enclosed.,
Valguarnera,
08-Apr-04 03:52 AM, #46
RE: Text enclosed.,
Moridin,
14-Apr-04 03:52 PM, #48
How about requesting from neutrals?,
General_Malaise,
07-Apr-04 09:15 AM, #40
RE: How about requesting from neutrals?,
nepenthe,
07-Apr-04 05:33 PM, #42
That's all...,
General_Malaise,
08-Apr-04 02:08 PM, #45
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Valguarnera,
26-Mar-04 12:56 PM #3
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Beer,
26-Mar-04 02:47 PM, #4
Quick question,
General_Malaise,
26-Mar-04 03:36 PM, #8
RE: Quick question,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 06:29 PM, #12
RE: Elite dwarven guards.,
Valguarnera,
26-Mar-04 11:10 PM, #21
How about requesting from neutrals?,
General_Malaise,
29-Mar-04 10:24 AM, #36
Why not have neutrals not attack, just evils?,
Cassman,
29-Mar-04 04:48 PM, #37
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 06:27 PM, #11
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Isildur,
27-Mar-04 12:27 AM, #22
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
incognito,
26-Mar-04 12:32 PM, #2
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
shokai,
26-Mar-04 12:30 PM, #1
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 06:42 PM, #13
Play and evil character. Then come back to us.,
Cerunnir,
26-Mar-04 07:23 PM, #15
Playing Evil,
Thelleneor,
26-Mar-04 07:40 PM, #16
Ok, paladins cant kill neutrals.,
Cerunnir,
26-Mar-04 09:08 PM, #18
balance and game mechanics are linked,
incognito,
27-Mar-04 02:23 PM, #25
RE: Good Killing Neutral,
Isildur,
27-Mar-04 12:38 AM, #23
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