I'll note that this is not very constructive to the point of the thread. I'll also note that this is purely observation. I'll save further comments for the death thread of the thief in question.

1: The success ratio of poisoner/trapper or any combination of is pretty limited. In one breath, players are complaining about how successful thieves are for being able to cripple their enemies, but if he was out-meleeing warriors it would be another story entirely.

2: I played a shifter with no wands. Not once did I feel threatened by any poisoner thieves in game. I was actually able to use my skills to escape rather easily in fact.

3: I like the uniquenesses of the class path. I like the uniquenesses of specific items. It paints a nice red target on the back of those individuals, which in turns villainizes (is that even a word) or turns them into a unstoppable hero, making people gun for them.

4: I can't help but think this is the pussification of CF. Are people seriously calling the thief class griefers? This isn't WoW. In fact, we should put that on our website. You don't retain all of your gear when you die. You have a chance of losing what you aquire. Thieves contribute to this. As is the same with Assassins, there are many ways to avoid thieves.

This and the following thread reminds me of DAoC. People complained so much about a specific class that they made it completely irrelevant to the game. That's a shame, because I feel CF's thieves bring quite a bit of depth. On that note, several classes do have the ability to pose a threat to the class as well.