Scrimbul | Sun 22-May-11 12:42 PM |
Member since 22nd Apr 2003
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#38123, "KO poison is reliable."
Edited on Sun 22-May-11 12:48 PM
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It needs to be, when dealing with straight poisoners or poison hybrids. They are giving up blackjack for #### sake. KO poison is like having one-time use disposable blackjacks in your inventory. Imagine if your blackjack disappeared after every time you used it and your blackjacks cost twice as much as normal blackjacks, that's KO poison.
Neurological poison by itself is not dangerous until you've spent more than 10 rounds in combat. Neurological poison is like rot, if you get hit with it, you should word. (it's duration may be a little long, I won't argue with that, but if you are going to cut it's duration to 1/5th, the skill needs to be designed to drop it's best affects in a matter of 1 to 3 rounds after application, not every couple of ticks)
Neurological poison would be both more useful to the thief and more balanced for other players if it was a 2 or 3 tick poison that randomly applied it's affects extremely fast every few pulses but 3 ticks would be long enough to guarantee it's not necessarily all of it's effects. Also ditch the forget effect and up the success rate on mind control effect. Neuro doesn't need to immolate people.
Neurological poison also has to be applied by weapon nick unless you're fooling around in the Inn wearing poisoned gear. Weapon nick is a 2 round lag skill with no damage intended solely to up the application rate of weapon poison.
You are all retarded. It's not the poisons, it's the traps combined with the poisons that's actually killing you.
Both poisoners and trappers have needed a rework in durations, affects, success rates, and skill mechanics for a long time. This is nothing new, it's just as irritating as the rot shaman.
Bard Repertoire Clarifications: http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=6&topic_id=23735&mesg_id=23735&page=
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Poisons and Traps
[View all] , Invoker (Anonymous), Sat 21-May-11 07:34 PM
Question,
Marcus_,
25-May-11 11:57 AM, #68
Agree. Thieves suck.,
waywicket,
23-May-11 04:07 PM, #58
Are you serious? Warbanner is the new thief.,
wikataw,
21-Jun-11 03:11 PM, #89
RE: Poisons and Traps,
Daevryn,
22-May-11 08:31 PM, #37
Basic question,
Valkenar,
22-May-11 08:59 PM, #39
RE: Basic question,
Daevryn,
22-May-11 09:50 PM, #41
Found the time to do this:,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-11 06:39 PM, #70
RE: Found the time to do this:,
N b M,
09-Jun-11 11:01 PM, #71
I think the durations will be MUCH too low now,
Poisoner (Anonymous),
09-Jun-11 11:27 PM, #72
10 vs 40 is to the advantage of the poisoner,
laxman,
10-Jun-11 05:32 AM, #73
He said 5-10. 5 ticks is NOT long enough,
Poisoner (Anonymous),
10-Jun-11 08:27 AM, #75
RE: He said 5-10. 5 ticks is NOT long enough,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-11 01:33 PM, #79
Wasn't trying to freak out,
Poisoner (Anonymous),
10-Jun-11 03:25 PM, #82
Let me help you.,
Newbie (Anonymous),
11-Jun-11 09:39 AM, #85
RE: Found the time to do this:,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-11 08:23 AM, #74
I agree with some of this, but not all,
Poisoner (Anonymous),
10-Jun-11 08:36 AM, #76
I'd even go a little further...,
Splntrd,
25-Jun-11 11:08 PM, #90
Yum. Programming puzzle + suggestion,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
10-Jun-11 10:53 PM, #84
He found the time because he is done playing Flaaaayin,
Tsunami,
10-Jun-11 01:06 PM, #77
This is how rumors get started!,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-11 01:25 PM, #78
Lol. nt,
Gothchicken (Anonymous),
11-Jun-11 09:41 AM, #86
Trying to avoid suspicion, but I found you out anyway.,
Tsunami,
12-Jun-11 12:36 PM, #88
If he played Flaaayin, he should be probably be divorce...,
TMNS,
10-Jun-11 02:06 PM, #80
RE: If he played Flaaayin, he should be probably be div...,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-11 02:29 PM, #81
Pfft, thats cause Zorszaul couldnt age die :P nt,
Gaplemo,
10-Jun-11 03:26 PM, #83
Zing nt,
wikataw,
11-Jun-11 09:42 AM, #87
RE: Basic question,
Doof,
23-May-11 11:39 AM, #52
Plague would like to have a word with you...,
Scrimbul,
23-May-11 01:55 PM, #54
How is that fun?,
Valkenar,
23-May-11 02:32 PM, #55
Because that's part of the strategy to the game.,
Malakhi,
23-May-11 04:03 PM, #57
I agree,
Valkenar,
23-May-11 07:06 PM, #59
I'd rather fight Zorsaul, Ahtielhi, your Silenttower/He...,
wikataw,
22-May-11 09:38 PM, #40
lets create the ghost rule,
laxman,
23-May-11 07:37 AM, #45
RE: Poisons and Traps,
HammerSong,
22-May-11 07:03 PM, #35
Preps are annoying to get,
Valkenar,
22-May-11 08:44 PM, #38
I'm 30, who's fourty? nt,
wikataw,
22-May-11 10:06 PM, #43
Don't assume it's pussification,
incognito,
23-May-11 02:54 AM, #44
RE: Don't assume it's pussification,
HammerSong,
23-May-11 08:13 PM, #61
So back to my point,
incognito,
24-May-11 04:52 PM, #63
I endorse the above post,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
23-May-11 08:18 AM, #46
Ravon had a skill that was changed ,
Oldril,
23-May-11 09:17 AM, #48
RE: Same with Yanacek,
Anon opinion (Anonymous),
23-May-11 10:58 AM, #51
Just because anything was changed doesn't mean it was O...,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
23-May-11 03:13 PM, #56
Yanacek abused the build,
incognito,
24-May-11 04:53 PM, #64
Overpowerdness,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
23-May-11 10:25 AM, #49
Overpowered isn't the correct word.,
Anon opinion (Anonymous),
23-May-11 10:57 AM, #50
Me.,
Tesline,
24-May-11 10:01 PM, #67
Oh my god, you played DAoC too and raged at its pussifi...,
Batman (Anonymous),
23-May-11 08:02 PM, #60
Mostly Agree (long post),
Agree (Anonymous),
22-May-11 11:11 AM, #11
Don't forget the Watcher!,
Old guy (Anonymous),
22-May-11 10:11 AM, #8
RE: Poisons and Traps,
ORB,
22-May-11 09:06 AM, #7
Agreed,
The Heretic,
22-May-11 08:11 AM, #6
Fear poison should stay.,
Scrimbul,
22-May-11 12:55 PM, #24
The poisons are all just too easy to land,
Murphy,
22-May-11 03:14 AM, #4
Poisons aren't easy to land.,
Scrimbul,
22-May-11 12:34 PM, #20
Sorry Scrimbul,
incognito,
22-May-11 12:38 PM, #22
KO poison is reliable.,
Scrimbul,
22-May-11 12:48 PM #23
You just don't know poisoners as well,
incognito,
22-May-11 02:07 PM, #26
Wow. no,,
Scrimbul,
22-May-11 03:43 PM, #29
mind control can be done while KOd, this is often enoug...,
Artificial,
22-May-11 04:44 PM, #30
This is probably what I'm thinking of,
incognito,
22-May-11 04:47 PM, #31
yep, and it often reapplies the same tick it ends. nt,
Artificial,
22-May-11 10:00 PM, #42
Yeah. Neuro needs a tweak.,
Scrimbul,
22-May-11 04:51 PM, #33
There's another poisoner thief right now,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
23-May-11 08:31 AM, #47
My character has the tools to avoid dying to him,
incognito,
24-May-11 04:57 PM, #65
I had the same experience. nt,
Artificial,
24-May-11 05:01 PM, #66
To counter your argument,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
26-May-11 01:21 PM, #69
I have similiar issues,
incognito,
22-May-11 12:50 AM, #2
The grinning devil shield doesn't nullify ap's,
Shapa,
22-May-11 10:55 AM, #9
Suit yourself,
incognito,
22-May-11 11:10 AM, #10
Good reason being,
incognito,
22-May-11 11:13 AM, #12
The plan how to fight it doesn't really matter.,
Shapa,
22-May-11 11:54 AM, #15
Who were these brave anti-paladins followers of the sph...,
Shapa,
22-May-11 11:16 AM, #13
Hahaha,
Valkenar,
22-May-11 11:56 AM, #16
Must be true.,
Shapa,
22-May-11 12:00 PM, #17
Huh,
incognito,
22-May-11 12:32 PM, #19
Well we simply do not agree on some things then it seem...,
Shapa,
22-May-11 01:54 PM, #25
I don't count Ravon,
incognito,
22-May-11 02:05 PM, #27
RE: Who were these brave anti-paladins followers of the...,
Daevryn,
22-May-11 08:24 PM, #36
If that's true than Tony's an idiot.,
TMNS,
23-May-11 01:07 PM, #53
RE: If that's true than Tony's an idiot.,
Daevryn,
23-May-11 10:06 PM, #62
I tend to agree,
Valkenar,
21-May-11 11:53 PM, #1
RE: I tend to agree,
incognito,
22-May-11 12:55 AM, #3
Also...,
sezdral,
22-May-11 05:11 AM, #5
Lol. Yeah, dust is hard to fathom.,
lasentia,
22-May-11 12:07 PM, #18
Situational,
Valkenar,
22-May-11 11:19 AM, #14
I -think- you can tell when the forget kicks in,
incognito,
22-May-11 12:36 PM, #21
I dunno,
Valkenar,
22-May-11 02:06 PM, #28
Maybe I've been unlucky,
incognito,
22-May-11 04:48 PM, #32
You can see it (Someone clutches his head as his eyes g...,
Humbert,
22-May-11 05:49 PM, #34
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