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EskelianSun 16-Aug-09 01:57 PM
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#26441, "RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe"


          

To be quite honest with you, the two are the same in some regards.

Cheaters more easily amass large groups and are more often dominant. It is an ugly truth of the game and I don't think anyone who has seriously played for a while would deny that outside friendships turn into in game powerhouses and cabal leaderships. So, you're still better off cheating. In fact, you're always better off cheating - that's why you'll never get rid of it.

I won't say every hell trip has been composed of people who knew each other OOC, I'll just say its more often the case than the opposite. At the very least one of the major stakeholders in the trip was shown how/what to do as part of what you'd consider a team of "cheaters". Including maps/et al.

More to the point though, the less people play the more impossible these things become for non-cheaters. People who do things "the right way", ie, playing the underdog, not cheating, etc tend to continually get shafted by the way the game works. I guess it is what it is.

At the end of the day though I don't think anyone will blame you for making a change that leaves it in a spot where you feel you don't have to modify it anymore. If you're 'Ok' point is that it takes a group of 10 to get through it then so be it.

  

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HOT TopicSilent Tower Rethought.... maybe [View all] , Daevryn, Sat 15-Aug-09 01:42 AM
Reply My Thoughts, Dragomir, 23-Aug-09 07:46 PM, #90
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Exit, 21-Aug-09 09:19 PM, #89
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Tyrjal, 21-Aug-09 02:34 AM, #86
Reply Sadly, the playerbase being what it is, this would like..., Theerkla, 21-Aug-09 05:27 AM, #87
     Reply Oh and.., Cerunnir, 21-Aug-09 03:49 PM, #88
Reply My take on silent tower., Kadsuane, 20-Aug-09 11:09 AM, #84
Reply RE: My take on silent tower., Daevryn, 20-Aug-09 11:16 AM, #85
Reply Another possible solution, incognito, 19-Aug-09 05:11 PM, #83
Reply Make the rewards rot on leaving the tower maybe?, muchos2, 19-Aug-09 12:06 PM, #81
Reply I like this idea., Quixotic, 19-Aug-09 01:47 PM, #82
Reply Modern times, Valkenar, 18-Aug-09 09:07 AM, #80
Reply Thing is, incognito, 18-Aug-09 02:42 AM, #79
Reply On time-intensiveness, DurNominator, 18-Aug-09 12:21 AM, #78
Reply The puzzles are what made it, Grudan, 17-Aug-09 11:00 AM, #77
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Xanthrailles, 16-Aug-09 01:58 PM, #73
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Eskelian, 16-Aug-09 01:57 PM #72
Reply Crackball thought., Quixotic, 16-Aug-09 01:54 PM, #71
Reply Throwdown vs riddle, laxman, 16-Aug-09 08:35 AM, #63
Reply RE: Throwdown vs riddle, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 10:04 AM, #65
     Reply This sums up the problem with brute force to me, incognito, 16-Aug-09 12:58 PM, #69
          Reply Seriously- Brits don't perma nt, Abernyte, 16-Aug-09 05:09 PM, #74
               Reply RE: Seriously- Brits don't perma nt, incognito, 17-Aug-09 02:44 AM, #75
Reply people don't post cheats to help, bobbyp, 16-Aug-09 08:00 AM, #62
Reply For solo, think less puzzle and more complex, intriguin..., Boon, 15-Aug-09 06:25 PM, #55
Reply my opinion, Jhyrbian, 15-Aug-09 06:09 PM, #54
Reply RE: my opinion, A2, 15-Aug-09 09:40 PM, #56
Reply Very good point, Mekantos, 16-Aug-09 01:09 AM, #58
     Reply RE: Very good point, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 01:21 AM, #59
          Reply did anyone ever figure out how to talk? nt, Jhyrbian, 16-Aug-09 06:31 AM, #61
               Reply Yep., Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 10:01 AM, #64
                    Reply Btw, Mekantos, 16-Aug-09 12:56 PM, #68
                         Reply RE: Btw, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 01:02 PM, #70
Reply Both Sides of the Coin, Straklaw, 15-Aug-09 05:12 PM, #52
Reply RE: Both Sides of the Coin, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 05:26 PM, #53
     Reply RE: Both Sides of the Coin, Aodh, 16-Aug-09 04:15 AM, #60
Reply Personally I'd like to see, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 05:08 PM, #51
Reply I think Lokain's idea has merit., GinGa, 16-Aug-09 11:43 AM, #66
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Isildur, 15-Aug-09 03:42 PM, #47
Reply Quick fix, Mekantos, 15-Aug-09 03:11 PM, #46
Reply That would actually just make it worse, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 04:49 PM, #50
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, trewyn, 15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #44
Reply Two points, The Heretic, 15-Aug-09 01:42 PM, #38
Reply Idea with this issue:, GinGa, 16-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #67
     Reply That is the worst example you could have picked, incognito, 17-Aug-09 03:10 AM, #76
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, xander, 15-Aug-09 01:05 PM, #36
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, asylumius, 15-Aug-09 12:25 PM, #33
Reply Long time on-and-offer's thoughts, RandomThinker, 15-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #24
Reply Thumbs down, imo, Mort, 15-Aug-09 11:20 AM, #21
Reply An old-timer's viewpoint, HunterElf, 15-Aug-09 11:21 AM, #20
Reply The biggest thing I think that hurts solo-exploration, _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 11:41 AM, #23
     Reply You are just exploring with the wrong class, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:57 AM, #27
          Reply The problem with that is..., _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 12:09 PM, #29
               Reply RE: The problem with that is..., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 12:18 PM, #31
                    Reply Not to get off on a tangent..., _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 02:29 PM, #42
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, ORB, 15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #16
Reply Not a bad idea really! IMM-quest to be able to enter th..., Amberion, 15-Aug-09 11:38 AM, #22
     Reply I don't like Imm quest idea..., ORB, 15-Aug-09 12:42 PM, #35
          Reply I don't like it either..., Zulghinlour, 15-Aug-09 03:04 PM, #45
Reply RE: Secrecy, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #15
Reply Good post n/t, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 12:27 PM, #34
Reply RE: Secrecy, Zulghinlour, 15-Aug-09 01:29 PM, #37
Reply Precisely..., asylumius, 15-Aug-09 02:12 PM, #40
Reply I'm dying with curiosity now nt, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #43
Reply I totally agree with you on almost everything..., TMNS, 15-Aug-09 02:26 PM, #41
Reply RE: Secrecy, asylumius, 15-Aug-09 02:08 PM, #39
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Rade, 15-Aug-09 10:37 AM, #14
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 10:51 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 11:02 AM, #19
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 04:13 PM, #49
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:56 AM, #26
     Reply Nah., Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 12:08 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Nah., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 12:16 PM, #30
          Reply Oh, I see what you're getting at. nt, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 12:19 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 04:04 PM, #48
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Rade, 15-Aug-09 11:55 PM, #57
Reply Meh., Iunna, 15-Aug-09 08:44 AM, #12
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 08:22 AM, #11
Reply Does that add anything to the game?, Stunna, 15-Aug-09 07:02 AM, #10
Reply I prefer the puzzle type area, incognito, 15-Aug-09 06:44 AM, #9
Reply Why that won't work, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:53 AM, #25
Reply I almost got into ST..., Aodh, 15-Aug-09 05:57 AM, #7
Reply Why I'm against groups, vargal, 15-Aug-09 06:06 AM, #8
Reply RE: I almost got into ST..., Cerunnir, 15-Aug-09 10:25 AM, #13
Reply Think you know my idea on this..., Torak, 15-Aug-09 04:34 AM, #6
Reply I really like the idea here!, Amberion, 15-Aug-09 10:56 AM, #18
Reply My thoughts on this, fwiw, Mekantos, 15-Aug-09 04:27 AM, #5
Reply No matter what it needs to come back., Guilo, 15-Aug-09 03:30 AM, #4
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, vargal, 15-Aug-09 02:32 AM, #3
Reply I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining., TMNS, 15-Aug-09 02:20 AM, #1
     Reply RE: I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 02:31 AM, #2
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