Isildur | Mon 23-Feb-09 03:49 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#23864, "RE: Also consider"
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I felt like it was fine. But then, I was kind of off doing my own thing.
I like to be scientific about this stuff, so here are "hours at induction" and "hours at maran" stats for all the maran PBFs since Daichyl, who inducted Mizfara. If they never made maran then the second number in parentheses is their hours at deletion:
Hayim: 40, 129 Corticas: 38, (69) Gralbin: 23, 76 Enrai: 56, 101 Ilvakihj: 14, 119 Illunas: 6, 109 Oraimus: 38, (104) Kenric: 24, (73) Catast: 20, (58) Iaru: 51, (107) Ilbjorga: 28, (88) Tanith: 22, 84 Jaisel: 51, 115 Iltanthal: 44, 149 Llondolis: 43, 141 Kernagor: 11, 90 Vyadesh: 33, (94) Mizfara: 106, 170 Cyruil: 34, 98 Erendinia: 37, 108 Quiltell: 24, 86 Kayella: 43, 94 Jeqo: 111, (152) Ilirenen: 45, 85 Hiajist: 30, 129 Acvilar: 28, 132 Narclarn: 81, (155) Angaarn: 64, 235 Laernoch: 28, (145) Vyborny: 21, (92) Tondumalanas: 24, 111 Daichyl: 53, 107
Now, with regards to induction, we have no idea when these people sent their notes or actually started trying to get inducted. Mizfara, for instance, waited a long time to do this. But I'll give you stats anyway:
HOURS AT INDUCTION: Min: 6 hours (Illunas) Median: 35.5 hours Max: 111 hours (Jeqo)
The only reason Jeqo took that long is that, in my opinion, he was not cut out to be a Maran. I think most people (other than Jeqo) will agree with me on that. The character with the next highest hours at induction? Mizfara.
TIME SPENT AS A SQUIRE BEFORE MAKING MARAN: Min: 40 hours (Ilirenen) Median: 71 hours Max: 171 (Angaarn)
Interestingly, Ilirenen (Warren) also got on some peoples' nerves. And yet he still made maran super-quick. Angaarn was well-liked and well role-played, but it seemed like he died every five minutes. Angaarn is also an outlier; the four highest totals after him are all around 105 hours.
Basically this tells me the following: If you've been a squire longer than ~110 hours then you can start to think you're doing something wrong. If you haven't been a squire for at least that long then it's probably wrong to ascribe any meaning to it. Witness the fact that Iltanthal, Acvilar and Ilvakihj all spent ~105 hours as squires, and they were all eventually put into leadership positions.
TIME SPENT AS A SQUIRE WITHOUT MAKING MARAN BEFORE DELETING: Min: 31 (Corticas) Median: 60 Max: 117 (Laernoch)
As I recall, Laernoch was like Angaarn in that he died every five minutes. The next highest after him was Narclarn at 74 hours. This suggests to me that people just aren't sticking around long enough after being inducted.
Interestingly, here are the squire times for characters that eventually made leader, i.e. they were "doing something right" and generally looked upon favorably by cabal leadership:
Enrai: 45 Ilvakihj: 105 Iltanthal: 105 Llondolis: 98 Mizfara: 64 Cyruil: 64 Acvilar: 104 Daichyl: 54
So 50% of those spent about 100 hours as a squire, including Twist, who theoretically knows what the hell he's doing RP wise. Also witness the difference between Java's two characters, Llondolis and Enrai. Was Enrai that much better of a character? Probably not.
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Maran
[View all] , Tac, Mon 23-Feb-09 02:07 PM
RE: Maran,
Daevryn,
23-Feb-09 08:43 PM, #21
Because you totally didn't bring that on yourself. nt,
Scrimbul,
23-Feb-09 09:44 PM, #22
It's true.,
Daevryn,
23-Feb-09 10:19 PM, #23
RE: It's true.,
Dark Priest,
24-Feb-09 12:18 PM, #35
Next time I have the time....,
Tac,
24-Feb-09 09:23 AM, #27
RE: Next time I have the time....,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 10:04 AM, #28
that's exactly what I was thinking.,
Aodh,
24-Feb-09 10:06 AM, #29
So in a world where people have less time on their hand...,
Scrimbul,
24-Feb-09 12:25 PM, #36
This whole thread is silly,
Baerinika,
24-Feb-09 12:38 PM, #38
Please allow for the fact,
incognito,
24-Feb-09 01:54 PM, #40
More importantly,
incognito,
24-Feb-09 01:56 PM, #41
I hate ap's and necros nt,
Baerinika,
24-Feb-09 02:00 PM, #43
RE: Please allow for the fact,
Baerinika,
24-Feb-09 01:59 PM, #42
RE: Please allow for the fact,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 02:42 PM, #44
I think I do that already,
Baerinika,
24-Feb-09 02:59 PM, #45
Arguing aside,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
24-Feb-09 04:47 PM, #48
RE: Arguing aside,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 05:09 PM, #49
Members,
Baerinika,
24-Feb-09 05:16 PM, #52
RE: Members,
Sarien,
25-Feb-09 11:34 AM, #67
Evil Outlanders and picking off squires,
Twist,
24-Feb-09 05:12 PM, #51
Problem with player promotions:,
Aodh,
24-Feb-09 05:24 PM, #53
because they have an ulterior motive?,
incognito,
24-Feb-09 05:27 PM, #55
RE: because they have an ulterior motive?,
Zulghinlour,
24-Feb-09 06:49 PM, #60
If you've seen the Fortress members command...,
Zulghinlour,
24-Feb-09 03:17 PM, #46
That's a very good point,
incognito,
24-Feb-09 05:26 PM, #54
RE: So in a world where people have less time on their ...,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 12:43 PM, #39
You are wasting the effort Isildur put into compiling t...,
Adhelard,
24-Feb-09 03:24 PM, #47
RE: You are wasting the effort Isildur put into compili...,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 05:10 PM, #50
You're lucky I'm a sucker for statistics. txt,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 06:46 PM, #59
I think we're all lucky,
Adhelard,
24-Feb-09 07:47 PM, #65
RE: I think we're all lucky,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 08:31 PM, #66
=P,
Lhydia,
24-Feb-09 07:05 PM, #62
Well... Then you should try Scion as it is.,
Amberion,
23-Feb-09 06:21 PM, #14
RE: Well... Then you should try Scion as it is.,
Isildur,
23-Feb-09 06:27 PM, #17
Battle sucks sometimes....,
Tac,
23-Feb-09 06:31 PM, #19
Well...,
Vortex Magus,
24-Feb-09 10:57 AM, #31
That would be a chancellor's decision, not immortal one,
Tac,
23-Feb-09 06:28 PM, #18
Agreed, as Cedek I got in after 2 easy interveiws....,
Amberion,
23-Feb-09 07:52 PM, #20
I think it sort of stems from the origination of the ca...,
Theerkla,
23-Feb-09 06:04 PM, #12
RE: Maran,
Isildur,
23-Feb-09 02:52 PM, #3
Also consider,
Baerinika,
23-Feb-09 02:56 PM, #4
RE: Also consider,
Isildur,
23-Feb-09 03:49 PM #5
I was intrigued,
Mekantos,
23-Feb-09 04:39 PM, #8
Consider this from my side, then.,
Dallevian,
23-Feb-09 05:35 PM, #10
RE: Consider this from my side, then.,
Isildur,
23-Feb-09 06:01 PM, #11
I'm lazy....,
Tac,
23-Feb-09 06:27 PM, #16
From Endalion's PBF,
DurNominator,
23-Feb-09 05:16 PM, #9
RE: Maran,
Adhelard,
23-Feb-09 03:58 PM, #6
RE: Maran,
Isildur,
23-Feb-09 04:12 PM, #7
Speaking only for myself, not Baerinika...,
Twist,
23-Feb-09 02:23 PM, #2
Well....,
Tac,
23-Feb-09 06:23 PM, #15
So, Maraning is just PK-based?,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
24-Feb-09 08:45 AM, #24
RE: So, Maraning is just PK-based?,
Daevryn,
24-Feb-09 08:53 AM, #26
You won't be playing Empire either then...,
Zulghinlour,
23-Feb-09 02:20 PM, #1
Getting Maran = Becoming Sect Leader?,
Tac,
23-Feb-09 06:15 PM, #13
Have you crunched the numbers?,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
24-Feb-09 08:50 AM, #25
RE: Have you crunched the numbers?,
Zulghinlour,
24-Feb-09 11:09 AM, #32
RE: Have you crunched the numbers?,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 12:01 PM, #34
Do you want to take a stab at time to Elite?,
Adhelard,
24-Feb-09 12:38 PM, #37
RE: Do you want to take a stab at time to Elite?,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 06:53 PM, #61
I don't know about you.,
Vortex Magus,
24-Feb-09 10:51 AM, #30
RE: I don't know about you.,
Zulghinlour,
24-Feb-09 11:11 AM, #33
re: backstabbing,
Aodh,
24-Feb-09 05:37 PM, #56
RE: re: backstabbing,
Daevryn,
24-Feb-09 06:28 PM, #57
RE: re: backstabbing,
Isildur,
24-Feb-09 07:22 PM, #63
Backstabbing is only part of it,
Twist,
24-Feb-09 07:46 PM, #64
RE: I don't know about you.,
Daevryn,
24-Feb-09 06:32 PM, #58
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