Larcat | Wed 07-Jan-09 06:11 PM |
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#23252, "Exactly how this is going to play out txt"
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1) The main way for newbies to find wands, in the past year+ has been to ask cabal mates/friends/barter things for locations. Then, once the first is found, someone tells them where the others are.
This change makes finding your sleeks non-interactive, but still tedious.
2) It won't stop OOC dissemination of locations. Sooner than some IMMs think, I think, lists with the new locations will be compiled. These lists will be more tedious to take advantage of than old ones, but will still do the same thing. (Echos of spam-prac here. Spam prac has never been made impossible, it is just more time consuming than it used to be.)
3) It will prevent some people with limited CF time from playing certain mage combos, regardless of how neat their role might be. As a for instance, I was contemplating an evil conjurer (a hard class to look for wands under the new system with) or perhaps a muter. A muter still looks viable, conjie less so.
4) It will make veterans reexplore areas that they have explored a thousand times.... Again. Echos of exploration/observation XP here. I have seriously considered making a macro for getting the HToS XP, because every character of mine does it at some point, and it is just as tedious each time.
5) The bad locations will still be debilitating. Getting, for instance, the one next to a certain coveted potion will still be an utter pain in the ass, and be debilitating vs. having a location that is relatively easily soloable by most classes.
6) Detect artifact will be usefull....... Yay?
7) Playing a mage will be more time consuming than it was. Sounds like... Any number of other changes.
Lots of good stuff in the game in the last few years, but this one just seems silly.
It doesn't STOP people from getting their sleeks, it just ups the hours required.
Maybe something like the way Shifter emote access works. A combination of IMM xp, Obs XP, Explore XP and generally feel-good about the character would result in some IC character giving you hints at where your sleeks are.
Anything other than something that is still 1) Brute-forceable, 2) Might still result in you getting shafted on a location, and 3) Is more time consuming.
"New payment options w/ Iron Realms"
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Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands
[View all] , Daevryn, Sun 04-Jan-09 10:58 PM
After reading ~60% of this thread...,
Splntrd,
27-Jan-09 03:22 PM, #159
What we need is a newbie IMM. Which, coincedentally, i...,
TheLastMohican,
27-Jan-09 04:20 PM, #160
Though optimistic this system officially makes me wish ...,
EXB,
28-Jan-09 04:21 AM, #161
Why?,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:19 AM, #145
One very good reason:,
Mekantos,
21-Jan-09 02:13 AM, #150
RE: One very good reason:,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 02:19 AM, #151
RE: Why?,
Gabe,
26-Jan-09 11:58 PM, #158
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Pendragon_Surtr,
17-Jan-09 08:20 AM, #144
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:55 AM, #148
My perspective from all sides...,
AsidMonk,
13-Jan-09 02:18 PM, #141
imo,
Quixotic,
13-Jan-09 10:20 PM, #142
Can't say I disagree,
AsidMonk,
14-Jan-09 02:56 AM, #143
Problems/ Great for Occasional Players?,
Seilclavin,
13-Jan-09 11:20 AM, #140
Sounds like a great change to me. ~,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 11:56 AM, #133
As someone who doesn't keep wand lists,
DurNominator,
11-Jan-09 06:25 PM, #125
I haven't found a sleek wand since the Second Age.,
Pendragon_Surtr,
10-Jan-09 05:33 PM, #114
My Idea.,
Iza,
10-Jan-09 10:58 AM, #112
RE: My Idea.,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-09 05:21 PM, #113
Originally...,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 02:25 PM, #119
It's a good idea, just one thing.,
Amberion,
11-Jan-09 05:25 PM, #121
Yeah...,
Dervish,
11-Jan-09 05:41 PM, #122
Heh. I agree.,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 06:37 PM, #126
So...,
Linolaques,
11-Jan-09 06:05 PM, #124
RE: So...,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 07:35 PM, #127
RE: So...,
Linolaques,
12-Jan-09 11:36 AM, #132
I don't like this change,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:55 PM, #101
Cosign,
Dervish,
11-Jan-09 08:59 AM, #118
I agree, this is really disheartening to me.,
jad,
12-Jan-09 10:25 AM, #129
Regarding level playing fields and CF,
Grudan,
12-Jan-09 10:49 AM, #130
I don't think this is true...,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 11:19 AM, #131
It is true in that,
Rayihn,
12-Jan-09 01:20 PM, #134
Suggestion,
Mekantos,
12-Jan-09 01:41 PM, #135
I don't see that happening,
Rayihn,
12-Jan-09 03:16 PM, #136
Er...,
Mekantos,
12-Jan-09 03:38 PM, #137
I like this idea..,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 04:00 PM, #138
RE: I agree, this is really disheartening to me.,
incognito,
12-Jan-09 04:08 PM, #139
I have solved the ABS problem: Master Plan,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 07:30 PM, #93
At some point the abs system did work like this.,
Kadsuane,
09-Jan-09 07:40 PM, #94
Yep, and that's why B's system won't work. NT,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:48 PM, #96
Yeh I remember this...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 07:52 PM, #97
Well, is that a problem?,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 08:08 PM, #99
One problem, I don't need pimp gear at hero to compete ...,
TheLastMohican,
10-Jan-09 08:26 PM, #116
RE: One problem, I don't need pimp gear at hero to comp...,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-09 10:54 PM, #117
I think it must be this part:,
Mekantos,
11-Jan-09 02:40 PM, #120
That was what I understood the point of this change to ...,
Linolaques,
11-Jan-09 05:54 PM, #123
Heh.,
TheLastMohican,
12-Jan-09 04:40 AM, #128
Game.,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-09 12:12 AM, #102
Even more sick.,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-09 12:19 AM, #103
They would also need to be locatable...,
Tac,
10-Jan-09 12:33 AM, #104
Thieves would rule over all mages,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:01 AM, #105
AND!,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:11 AM, #108
As for thieves..,
Adhelard,
10-Jan-09 05:38 PM, #115
Very cool idea. nt,
Drokk,
10-Jan-09 09:23 AM, #111
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:22 PM, #78
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-09 03:39 PM, #79
But, but...!,
Straklaw,
09-Jan-09 06:18 PM, #88
Well,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:14 AM, #109
My suggestion,
incognito,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #71
You know what i find funny?,
Iza,
09-Jan-09 01:28 PM, #69
RE: You know what i find funny?,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:06 PM, #75
Revamping the Wand System,
Zephon,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #63
You guys cure symptoms,
Dwoggurd,
08-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #56
Exactly how this is going to play out txt,
Larcat,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM #42
RE: Exactly how this is going to play out txt,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-09 07:09 PM, #43
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
The Heretic,
07-Jan-09 01:11 PM, #35
They will, but,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 01:13 PM, #36
Here's something I don't grasp,
Mekantos,
07-Jan-09 03:37 PM, #37
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 03:47 PM, #38
But the problem...,
Java,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #39
If you really think it will last for a few years... txt,
Larcat,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #40
Prove it!,
Iza,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #41
Can I have some more purple crack please.,
Lightmage,
07-Jan-09 08:32 PM, #44
When you say ABS..,
Adhelard,
07-Jan-09 09:35 PM, #46
I would say...,
EXB,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #47
Clarification,
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #48
RE: Clarification,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 08:51 AM, #53
RE: Clarification,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:50 AM, #147
re: Battle Berserker Sword Spec v. shapeshifter,
Quixotic,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #55
RE: Clarification,
Adhelard,
08-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #57
75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 10:04 PM, #58
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 10:35 PM, #59
I hear you...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #61
There's a level 42 one that's in more than not. Surpri...,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #72
Everytime I do this with mages I still die.,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #62
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #65
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Kadsuane,
09-Jan-09 11:17 AM, #68
You can thank...,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 03:49 PM, #81
I never fought you without barrier,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:29 PM, #100
Huh?,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:03 AM, #106
You're kidding?,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #64
Well...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 11:17 AM, #67
That's a problem to look at that way,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 01:28 PM, #70
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:20 PM, #77
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 05:09 PM, #86
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 02:10 AM, #149
I thought you could read.~,
Elerosse,
21-Jan-09 08:50 AM, #152
RE: When you say ABS..,
The Heretic,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #49
RE: When you say ABS..,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 08:39 AM, #52
Assuming equal talent, you're wrong.,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #73
I think you just got trolled by an imm~,
Enbuergo1,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #60
RE: Can I have some more purple crack please.,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:09 PM, #76
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Grudan,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #54
Coveting Sleeks,
Neltouda,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #66
Were either of you even around when sleeks were rare an...,
Lhydia,
09-Jan-09 02:21 PM, #74
Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 03:48 PM, #80
RE: Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 04:25 PM, #82
But you are forgetting (ALSO: addressing another point),
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 04:42 PM, #83
You don't think...,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 06:54 PM, #91
As a hero,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:07 AM, #107
And,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 04:48 PM, #84
RE: Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 05:04 PM, #85
"upper echelons" and my Genius Plan,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 06:48 PM, #90
But then Satebos grabs all five and no other mage sees ...,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:46 PM, #95
Thanks for the nod.,
Nivek1,
09-Jan-09 07:00 PM, #92
It's the build you pick,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:03 PM, #98
Does anyone have a problem with...,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:17 AM, #110
Mage vs. Warriors,
Straklaw,
09-Jan-09 06:16 PM, #87
I've been thinking about that same thing..,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 06:45 PM, #89
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:27 AM, #146
Right on. (text),
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 06:48 PM, #153
And the PK losses?,
Adhelard,
21-Jan-09 08:14 PM, #154
A few times. Maybe 2 or 3 times in last 6 years or so....,
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 08:39 PM, #156
Clarification...(small text),
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 08:41 PM, #157
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Adhelard,
21-Jan-09 08:10 PM, #155
Am I retarded, or did people miss these parts?,
TheLastMohican,
07-Jan-09 12:51 AM, #31
RE: Am I retarded, or did people miss these parts?,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #33
Yeah, realized this a bit after I posted, heh. NT,
TheLastMohican,
07-Jan-09 01:11 PM, #34
My thoughts,
Narissa,
06-Jan-09 09:52 PM, #30
Well...,
Iza,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #20
RE: Well...,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 10:03 PM, #26
RE: Well...,
Iza,
06-Jan-09 12:48 AM, #27
RE: Well...,
Klaak,
06-Jan-09 12:27 PM, #28
What was the intended effect?,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 03:47 PM, #15
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 03:54 PM, #16
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Kadsuane,
05-Jan-09 04:14 PM, #17
Exactly txt,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 04:49 PM, #18
Well...,
Twist,
05-Jan-09 08:17 PM, #21
RE: Well...,
Grudan,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #22
I hear ya...,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #23
RE: I hear ya...,
svarog,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #50
Sorry, I meant....,
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #51
So does that make the game more fun?,
Enbuergo1,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #25
RE: Well...,
Xanthrailles,
06-Jan-09 09:52 PM, #29
Did you reply to the right post?,
Twist,
07-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #32
RE: Did you reply to the right post?,
Xanthrailles,
07-Jan-09 08:32 PM, #45
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 06:32 PM, #19
Thanks very much for this.,
GinGa,
05-Jan-09 03:04 PM, #14
Detect Artifact?,
Pendragon_Surtr,
05-Jan-09 12:56 PM, #9
Try the helpfile...,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 01:00 PM, #10
Addition to the helpfile.,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #11
Detect artifact change,
Abernyte,
05-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #7
RE: Detect artifact change,
Grudan,
05-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #12
Perhaps somewhat differently,
incognito,
05-Jan-09 02:21 PM, #13
Personally, I'm not interested in lowering detect artif...,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 08:57 PM, #24
Is it still txt,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #6
RE: Is it still txt,
Rayihn,
05-Jan-09 07:32 AM, #8
Quick question.,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #2
RE: Quick question.,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 12:38 AM, #3
RE: Quick question.,
Jhishesh,
05-Jan-09 01:17 AM, #4
RE: Quick question.,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 01:19 AM, #5
This could be good, great or completely make me give up...,
Kadsuane,
05-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #1
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