So name a single hell group to make it to Satan that was led by someone who didn't already know how to get there?

See, you had the original imm run group, then the group ran by someone who had access to the info to begin with, and people who were in that group, or people who were in groups that were led by people from that group.

I can't name a single, purely explored on their own, group to make it to Satan. I don't think I can name one that made it past the 6th Circle.

If you don't see a problem with it all being driven by people who had access to info they really probably shouldn't have, then you and I just have a fundamental difference of opinion. The whole trickle down approach doesn't strike me as terrifically challenging game-skill wise, so much as social OOC contact wise.

- DC