Ok, I might have gone too much on rumors and for that I apologize. And I really did not want to bash you imms for cheating, that was not the intention of the post.

But generally I doubt those first groups were completely done IC, imm or not. I mean what are the odds that a group without any previous knowledge or OOC connections actually makes it through all of Hell? I find it terribly unlikely so most exploration groups just seem groups that gets dragged fast through the circles to get some eq.

For the Silent remark I apologize then. I just had not heard of anyone getting eq from an Archmage. But I still would love to see the area somewhat more "balanced" with perhaps not that hard punishments and perhaps lift the aura of secrecy some? I know people are SO hesitating to talk about silent even IC because they think they are breaking some rule and that it will be changed. Wonderful area though and I hope you take this the right way and not like I'm trying to bash you as a player or area writer. Just want to put another perspective on things and how they could be viewed.