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Death_AngelSun 23-Dec-12 10:24 AM
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#112505, "(RAGE DELETE) [FORTRESS] Llivivul the Planewalker"


          

Sun Dec 23 08:22:02 2012

At 7 o'clock AM, Day of Deception, 16th of the Month of the Old Forces
on the Theran calendar Llivivul perished, never to return.

Race:elf
Class:conjurer
Level:51
Alignment:Good
Ethos:Orderly
Cabal:FORTRESS, the Fortress of Light
Age:275
Hours:106

  

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Reply Whoa - Sh!tstorm!!! I haven't read any of this yet - Pa..., Warren, 24-Dec-12 09:13 PM, #17
Reply You're right., Padwei, 23-Dec-12 07:38 PM, #2
Reply Iunna you are a great imm but, TJHuron, 23-Dec-12 09:06 PM, #3
     Reply Yup., Padwei, 23-Dec-12 09:15 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Yup., CD, 23-Dec-12 09:37 PM, #5
          Reply Oh well., Padwei, 23-Dec-12 10:10 PM, #8
          Reply RE: Yup., colospgsbryan, 23-Dec-12 09:45 PM, #6
               Reply RE: Yup., Padwei, 23-Dec-12 09:49 PM, #7
                    Reply Trying to not to flame here..., Tolnum, 23-Dec-12 11:30 PM, #9
                    Reply RE: Trying to not to flame here..., Splntrd, 23-Dec-12 11:48 PM, #11
                    Reply This is a reply to most posters here:, Amberion, 24-Dec-12 01:26 AM, #12
                    Reply Well thats what happens when you only have one Acolyte ..., Tesline, 24-Dec-12 01:57 AM, #13
                    Reply RE: Trying to not to flame here..., Malakhi, 24-Dec-12 11:57 AM, #15
                    Reply Fair enough. nt, colospgsbryan, 24-Dec-12 03:48 PM, #16
Reply Boooooo., Duvam (Anonymous), 23-Dec-12 12:22 PM, #1
     Reply 106 hours is 2 and half weeks of work, Tolnum, 23-Dec-12 11:31 PM, #10
          Reply People don't even get Maran until atleast 100 hours in ..., Tesline, 24-Dec-12 02:00 AM, #14

WarrenMon 24-Dec-12 09:13 PM
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#112566, "Whoa - Sh!tstorm!!! I haven't read any of this yet - Pa..."
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FWIW - I did NOT delete because of the acolyte stuff. Repeat: This has nothing to do with immortal interaction (which I thought was great all along - especially my long bouts with Baerinika)

I deleted because the character wasn't working - I couldn't fulfill the characters mission as it was as a gimped out conjurer. It was the right role, the wrong class, and I constantly felt unprepared for my role.

I could have waited out acolyte - but I honestly just felt better to have a fresh start - the fact that I had 100 hours is the exact reason I felt it was okay to delete.

If I had anymore - I'd start to feel bad for the immortals/people who had really invested work and time into the character..

I will post my official goodbyes AFTER Christmas - as some of us have that kinda stuff to do



  

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PadweiSun 23-Dec-12 07:38 PM
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#112513, "You're right."
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You deserved to be an Acolyte. Unfortunately sometimes timing is
everything, and I've been occupied with other things lately. That's
just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Good luck with your next.

  

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TJHuronSun 23-Dec-12 09:06 PM
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#112514, "Iunna you are a great imm but"
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I have to ask. How much does it really take to make this char an acolyte? A keystroke? Tell me please if there is more to it. I've never played fort.

  

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PadweiSun 23-Dec-12 09:15 PM
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#112515, "Yup."
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I like to talk/interact with people about the what/why behind it.
Sounds like that method didn't work out for this character, but I
don't intend on changing how I do things because of it.

  

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CDSun 23-Dec-12 09:37 PM
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#112516, "RE: Yup."
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So because you did not want to take the time to give them deserved powers that are function of the cabal he joined...

The character got to waste his time?

I dont understand why wasting his time when he deserved the power is fair at all. They are rolepay/basic mechanism of the path he wished to be.

This is why the whole Fortress/tier thing sucks.

Too bad it was too much to let the character Altruism. Right

  

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PadweiSun 23-Dec-12 10:10 PM
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#112519, "Oh well."
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My play times and any given person's play times don't always match
up 100% of the time. That means the amount of time I have to watch
said people is a fair bit less than the time they're putting in.

When looking at who deserves to become Acolyte, it's not as easily
quantified as, say, EPKs. It's looking at overall RP, communication
in the cabal, outside the cabal, actions, etc.

I didn't get to see Llivivul all that much, so my ability to make a
decision over the month this character was alive was somewhat
hamstrung. I did see hints of good things with said character in the
last 10 days, which is why I said it was deserved. But you know,
sometimes I have non-CF things to do (it's a busy time of year,
after all) and that's how it goes.

  

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colospgsbryanSun 23-Dec-12 09:45 PM
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#112517, "RE: Yup."
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Isn't this where you as the Imm can sayto another Imm that understands Acolytes, "Hey. Juice this guy for me. Just make sure they understand the implications of being an acolyte." I can't seem to meet up with them with my schedule right now? Or does this sort of thing not work for induct type things?

* No sarcasm here at all, just a question.

Bryan

  

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PadweiSun 23-Dec-12 09:49 PM
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#112518, "RE: Yup."
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>Isn't this where you as the Imm can sayto another Imm that
>understands Acolytes,

There isn't really anyone I feel comfortable asking to do what
you're suggesting here.

  

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TolnumSun 23-Dec-12 11:30 PM
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#112520, "Trying to not to flame here..."
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Is there a single bigger post that defines the dysfunctional immortal ranks than this?

You can't find the time in a month to interact with the guy, he deletes.

You then say you couldn't make the time, and you don't trust any other immortal to make him an acolyte? Meanwhile other imms are handing out interactions and rewards like candy.

I like that you want it to be more in depth than a simple button click but the problem is this is inconsistent behavior. If all staff had this mentality, I think we wouldn't have an issue. However, when a character can get leader/quest forms in that same month that you couldn't find time to interact, how is this a good experience for the player?

This is exactly why people complain about Baer. She does so well and is so up to date on her followers and interactions, it sets a bar so high that the rest of you are unable or unwilling to reach.

  

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SplntrdSun 23-Dec-12 11:48 PM
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#112523, "RE: Trying to not to flame here..."
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Firstly, that's not why people complain about Baer.

Secondly, Iunna/Padwei is a volunteer whose interest is liable to wax and wane. There's nothing to help this but simply being understanding of your fellow humans beings. If someone failing to meet an expectation you've set for them kills your fun, fine - but accept and own the fact that that's your doing (with your silly expectations), not an Imm's.

There is no one to blame for what essentially amounts to circumstance - except yourself, if those circumstances bother you.

Splntrd

  

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AmberionMon 24-Dec-12 01:26 AM
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#112527, "This is a reply to most posters here:"
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If you guys haven't noticed, Padwei and Iunna are listed as DORMANT.

Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.

  

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TeslineMon 24-Dec-12 01:57 AM
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#112529, "Well thats what happens when you only have one Acolyte ..."
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dop

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

  

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#112543, "RE: Trying to not to flame here..."
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>I like that you want it to be more in depth than a simple
>button click but the problem is this is inconsistent behavior.
>If all staff had this mentality, I think we wouldn't have an
>issue. However, when a character can get leader/quest forms in
>that same month that you couldn't find time to interact, how
>is this a good experience for the player?


All staff, with respect to Fortess, at least, does have this same mentality.

In general, I think it would be more healthy for you to focus on yourself and your personal improvement, as opposed to complaining about what other deserving people get.

  

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colospgsbryanMon 24-Dec-12 03:48 PM
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#112558, "Fair enough. nt"
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nt

Bryan

  

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Duvam (Anonymous)Sun 23-Dec-12 12:22 PM
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#112507, "Boooooo."
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You were doing good there for a while. You just needed to hang in there a while and you would have totally made acolyte. A little bit of patience goes a long way. regardless of what you might think on the lines of *I was patient* 106 hours is not patient.
GLWYN.

  

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TolnumSun 23-Dec-12 11:31 PM
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#112521, "106 hours is 2 and half weeks of work"
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or 106 days of an hour a day

how much more time does the player have to invest in CF?

  

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TeslineMon 24-Dec-12 02:00 AM
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#112530, "People don't even get Maran until atleast 100 hours in ..."
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The #### you complaining about. I'd say getting acolyte within 106 hours would be a god damn blessing. He gave up too early. Not anyone's fault but his own.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

  

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