>They don't get rager powers, i just said that. Shaman
>summoning have been used in conjunction with ragers before,
>but irrelevant, there are rules of parity.
>

I understand what you said, I was referring more toward communer powers combined with other members' rager powers. Summon is bad enough (rules of parity don't limit some people..). What about word of recall? Sanc and heals limited only by mana on the big D? It just seems like a lot of communer powers defeat the "hard life, rewarded with spellbane and deathblow" nature of the cabal. Just my observation, and I'm playing devil's advocate at this point so I'll bow out.

>Empowerment controls quality, also imms that empower magic
>haters are limiting. I see no particular reason why a
>supporter of the divine over the mortal powers, should be
>restricted in trying to limit the spread of mortal power.
>

Like I said, it's partly a hard-coded issue. If it weren't for that, I'd be on board because of the built-in weed-out steps that we've both mentioned.