Saagkri | Sat 15-Jun-19 05:45 AM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#73381, "RE: This is closer to a valid argument imo"
Edited on Sat 15-Jun-19 05:48 AM
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True. I wasn't making the argument that there shouldn't be a trade off. Just saying that to go a second path, you're giving up some pretty nice skills and you still won't reach the top of a second path. As it should be.
To be honest, I am no expert when it comes to several of the paths. I've played a lot of thugs and have a pretty good knowledge of the general thief skills as I've explored them quite a bit. I built a necro-killer with blackjack/isolate/earclap that was nice for a couple of otherwise very tough kills. Of course once they are undead...you are no threat to speak of.
Another challenge to thugs at hero are assassins and duergar warriors as they are the two you cannot avoid by hiding. Both, unless incompetent, can curb stomp a thug without breaking a sweat without trance and without legacies. Duergar Shaman and APs I doubt view a thug as a risk other than getting knocked out and stolen from. Even with earclap on the AP (which is woefully unreliable on an awake foe) your direct damage skills are no match and a thief's limited weapon knowledge means he's eating you in melee anyway. Of course if he has protections...
Starting to sound like a whine fest. But it seems at hero, every class has an answer to thugs and then some. I usually hero a thug before he dies to remind myself why I hadn't before.
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Give all thieves general skills?
[View all] , Sertius, Tue 11-Jun-19 04:49 PM
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Aylosi,
28-Jul-19 05:32 AM, #43
That makes them more like stealth warriors,
incognito,
28-Jul-19 01:55 PM, #44
10 points is a high cost,
lasentia,
30-Jul-19 11:56 AM, #45
RE: 10 points is a high cost,
incognito,
31-Jul-19 01:37 PM, #46
With fewer players, thieves are less fun,
Amortis,
23-Jul-19 01:34 PM, #41
RE: With fewer players, thieves are less fun,
Ishuli,
23-Jul-19 07:19 PM, #42
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Caecilius et al (Anonymous),
19-Jun-19 08:58 AM, #37
I'd love to pick your brain.,
Quixotic,
20-Jun-19 12:50 PM, #38
RE: I'd love to pick your brain.,
Caecilius et al (Anonymous),
23-Jun-19 04:08 PM, #39
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
30-Jun-19 06:27 PM, #40
Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 10:05 AM, #28
RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Ishuli,
15-Jun-19 10:27 AM, #29
RE: Some thief tweaking ideas in bullet form.,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 11:39 AM, #30
So you want to nerf pickpockets,
Bemused,
16-Jun-19 04:45 AM, #31
Quite the contrary,
Saagkri,
16-Jun-19 05:18 AM, #32
Your butthurt is showing,
Bemused,
16-Jun-19 05:22 AM, #33
Are you having a bad day?,
Saagkri,
16-Jun-19 05:44 AM, #34
You all need to stop thinking that thieves should be a ...,
Bemused,
14-Jun-19 06:57 PM, #23
Nice straw man,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 11:56 PM, #24
This is closer to a valid argument imo,
Destuvius,
15-Jun-19 04:48 AM, #26
RE: This is closer to a valid argument imo,
Saagkri,
15-Jun-19 05:48 AM #27
What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyone sa...,
Destuvius,
14-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #21
RE: What exactly is it about thieves that makes everyon...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 06:12 PM, #22
RE: Give all thieves general skills?,
robdarken_,
11-Jun-19 07:09 PM, #3
Nah,
Onewingedangel,
11-Jun-19 06:05 PM, #2
I wouldn't say that is where they are strongest,
incognito,
12-Jun-19 12:56 AM, #4
I'm against this. NT,
Ishuli,
11-Jun-19 05:09 PM, #1
That's a rather blanket statement,
Sertius,
12-Jun-19 11:51 AM, #5
RE: That's a rather blanket statement,
Ishuli,
12-Jun-19 02:12 PM, #6
Easy Fix,
Wasted,
12-Jun-19 05:13 PM, #7
My choice would be more unpopular.,
Ishuli,
12-Jun-19 05:38 PM, #8
Because that would accomplish nothing?,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:37 AM, #14
I think you and she (and you and I) just disagree about...,
Mcbeth,
14-Jun-19 03:40 PM, #17
I disagree about shifters...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 04:57 PM, #20
What's special about a rager thief with climb?,
incognito,
13-Jun-19 02:44 PM, #9
Convenience.,
Ishuli,
13-Jun-19 03:02 PM, #10
As someone who has had a climb rager...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:06 AM, #12
I specifically go to the Mines of Zakiim... ,
SPN,
13-Jun-19 10:59 PM, #11
Thieves are woefully underpowered...,
Saagkri,
14-Jun-19 09:18 AM, #13
Other thing to mention is,
incognito,
14-Jun-19 11:28 AM, #15
RE: Thieves are woefully underpowered...,
robdarken_,
15-Jun-19 02:31 AM, #25
Most classes can flush a thief,
incognito,
16-Jun-19 02:36 PM, #35
re threats to assassins,
Quixotic,
18-Jun-19 08:50 PM, #36
Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
Sertius,
14-Jun-19 03:36 PM, #16
RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
Mcbeth,
14-Jun-19 03:41 PM, #18
RE: Put steal in pickpocket path in exchange,
incognito,
14-Jun-19 04:49 PM, #19
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