-flso | Mon 10-Apr-17 09:56 AM |
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#67755, "Shapa and others don't really get it."
Edited on Mon 10-Apr-17 10:07 AM
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The reality is very simple: Recent changes gave rise to a spiral that dropped player counts to the levels that will kill the game if not mitigated.
It's not about game balance and it's not about newbs and it's not about some idealistic vision for the game. We had a great game 10 years ago and a good game 3 years ago.
We have a game that is dying today. What changed in-between? How many people have publically stated they stopped playing due to these changes?
It's one thing to stick your head in the sand or the fingers in your ears and go *lalalalala* and quite another to face the grim reality. It won't matter making the game easier to play for new players, because the new, virgin mud players *will not come* fast if at all.
What matters is to *immediately* go back to the player count levels that can get CF out of its death spiral and sustain it in the near future. It's quite obvious what needs to change for that to *maybe* happen now, as some people have stopped playing for so long, there are doubts they'd be able to return.
Let me reiterate something I've mentioned many times before: You don't radically change something that has been deeply entrenched for so long without offering something to replace it. Messing with a successful feedback loop in this fashion is colossally stupid.
Umiron did exactly that, and then to make matters worse, walked off into the sunset.
That is all.
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CF is convulsing on the ground.
[View all] , wln, Sat 08-Apr-17 02:20 PM
Rewards aren't the issue.,
Eskelian,
24-Apr-17 09:24 AM, #124
RE: Rewards aren't the issue.,
Isildur,
24-Apr-17 01:09 PM, #125
Generally...,
Eskelian,
24-Apr-17 01:55 PM, #126
That's exactly how it's addictive,
Kstatida,
24-Apr-17 02:20 PM, #127
RE: Generally...,
Jormyr,
24-Apr-17 04:15 PM, #128
This is what did it for me...,
TheProphet1,
24-Apr-17 06:18 PM, #130
It doesn't matter really,
Kstatida,
25-Apr-17 04:57 AM, #131
Not playing for a time often helped me *regain* interes...,
Murphy,
25-Apr-17 06:39 AM, #132
This may be a case as well NT,
Kstatida,
25-Apr-17 06:47 AM, #133
These days...,
Just another batch of carrion (Anonymous),
26-Apr-17 06:34 AM, #135
You mean to say, it doesn't matter to *YOU*. ,
Eskelian,
27-Apr-17 09:45 AM, #136
RE: Generally...,
Eskelian,
25-Apr-17 09:06 AM, #134
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
ordasen,
20-Apr-17 07:43 AM, #123
I agree about..,
Kalageadon,
24-Apr-17 04:24 PM, #129
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Not An Imm,
18-Apr-17 08:22 PM, #120
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Marcus_,
10-Apr-17 06:48 PM, #102
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 06:49 PM, #103
Somewhat more elaborated,
Marcus_,
11-Apr-17 04:27 AM, #106
Allow to make a choice?,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 10:24 AM, #110
Good idea, but,
wln,
11-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #113
No, it's not the main reason.,
wln,
11-Apr-17 06:00 AM, #107
I hate to break it to you....,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 07:08 AM, #108
No, sir.,
wln,
11-Apr-17 09:39 AM, #109
Time management/investment.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:28 AM, #69
RE: Time management/investment.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 10:35 AM, #71
There are a lot of different ways to manage edge points...,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:48 AM, #72
RE: There are a lot of different ways to manage edge po...,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #73
RE: Time management/investment.,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 11:25 AM, #74
RE: Time management/investment.,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #76
FIFY,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:31 PM, #96
Probably goes without saying but..,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 12:57 PM, #87
I take issue with this.,
Java,
10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #77
RE: I take issue with this.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 11:50 AM, #79
Huh...they communicate more than ever dude!,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:27 PM, #83
Java does have points.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 12:47 PM, #86
RE: Java does have points.,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #98
Of course...communication can ALWAYS get better.,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 05:36 PM, #100
RE: Time management/investment.,
wln,
10-Apr-17 12:11 PM, #80
There was a reason Bron keep coming to your shrine.,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:29 PM, #84
Was fun.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #89
RE: Time management/investment.,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:43 PM, #97
EP system as it is now looks good and well balanced for...,
Shapa,
10-Apr-17 03:50 AM, #61
Try to read the initial posts before answering,
wln,
10-Apr-17 04:20 AM, #62
Why make even more grinding? ,
Shapa,
10-Apr-17 04:59 AM, #63
RE: Why make even more grinding? ,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 06:22 AM, #64
Shapa and others don't really get it.,
-flso,
10-Apr-17 10:07 AM #68
RE: Why make even more grinding? ,
wln,
10-Apr-17 12:17 PM, #81
My #####. Maybe you'll listen to Shaapa? NT,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:22 PM, #82
Someone should probably land the killing blow already.....,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:15 PM, #25
TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do tha...,
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:26 PM, #27
RE: TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:31 PM, #29
You don't play.,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:34 PM, #30
RE: You don't play.,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:38 PM, #33
Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month...,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #38
RE: Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month.....,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:59 PM, #40
Though I respect you as a a player...,
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:37 PM, #32
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:39 PM, #34
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #35
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #39
Again, couldn't have said it better.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:24 PM, #42
Pretty much this,
Bemused,
09-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #44
Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-is?,
Java,
09-Apr-17 02:54 PM, #45
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #48
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Java,
09-Apr-17 03:30 PM, #51
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 03:42 PM, #52
I think he'd make a decent IMM! NT,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 04:54 PM, #56
Did you learn from Umiron that trick?,
wln,
09-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #53
RE: Did you learn from Umiron that trick?,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 04:00 PM, #54
Actually...,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 03:10 PM, #49
Hell, Same made me play again,
Onewingedangel,
19-Apr-17 07:33 PM, #121
Posts like these make me laugh.,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:36 PM, #14
RE: Posts like these make me laugh.,
Kstatida,
09-Apr-17 02:23 AM, #15
I did not WHINE about any of these things.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:18 PM, #41
Be real,
jalbrin,
09-Apr-17 04:38 PM, #55
I'm sure no one "likes" him...,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 05:39 PM, #101
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
08-Apr-17 07:56 PM, #11
Me and you are copacetic about this. NT,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:34 PM, #13
And again,
Kstatida,
09-Apr-17 02:24 AM, #16
RE: And again,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:25 PM, #57
Yup, Forsaken NT,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #93
CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...),
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:14 PM, #24
RE: CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...),
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:33 PM, #58
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:20 PM, #26
RE: Grinding,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:29 PM, #28
RE: Grinding,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:35 PM, #31
RE: Grinding,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #37
You're right, that is possible.,
Java,
09-Apr-17 03:24 PM, #50
If majority would want it, there would be a high online...,
wln,
10-Apr-17 01:53 PM, #90
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:46 PM, #59
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Java,
10-Apr-17 06:50 AM, #65
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
10-Apr-17 07:35 AM, #66
You're wrong,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 03:56 PM, #94
RE: You're wrong,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 05:08 PM, #99
Your logic is flawed,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 10:29 AM, #111
RE: Your logic is flawed,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 10:49 AM, #112
I could care less about his ideas NT,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 11:17 AM, #114
According to me how?,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 02:01 PM, #115
RE: According to me how?,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #116
No you aren't... Bro,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 03:20 PM, #117
RE: No you aren't... Bro,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 04:23 PM, #118
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #36
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 06:07 PM, #60
My generally commentary remains the same,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 05:20 PM, #3
Everyone told it hundreds of times already,
wln,
08-Apr-17 05:52 PM, #4
You need to figure out how to get Scar to do it,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #6
I thought it's responsibility of the staff,
wln,
08-Apr-17 07:41 PM, #8
Things are oft discussed,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:44 PM, #9
So it's the best time to ask and deliver thoughts about...,
wln,
08-Apr-17 07:50 PM, #10
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Java,
08-Apr-17 06:35 PM, #5
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:28 PM, #7
Dude...we have a serious disconnect here.,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:32 PM, #12
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Java,
09-Apr-17 05:02 AM, #17
Veting Imms,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 05:43 AM, #18
RE: Veting Imms,
Java,
09-Apr-17 07:12 AM, #19
People vs process,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 07:34 AM, #20
RE: People vs process,
Java,
09-Apr-17 07:51 AM, #21
Fwiw,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 07:59 AM, #22
Fair enough. ,
Java,
09-Apr-17 10:14 AM, #23
You've also "rushed" former IMMs.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:27 PM, #43
Not only him!,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 02:56 PM, #46
:(,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #47
A week?,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 09:49 AM, #67
If you're pushing it and not super detail oriented..,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:33 AM, #70
RE: A week?,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 11:49 AM, #78
RE: A week?,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 12:41 PM, #85
Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 12:59 PM, #88
Oh, that's way less than I thought was required,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #91
RE: Oh, that's way less than I thought was required,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 02:11 PM, #92
Update the sticky?,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 03:59 PM, #95
Which?,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 06:57 PM, #104
That one...,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #105
That does not seem bad at all.,
Drehir,
11-Apr-17 08:29 PM, #119
RE: Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now,
ordasen,
20-Apr-17 07:16 AM, #122
Don't you get it?,
Eskelian,
02-May-17 07:11 PM, #137
You mean rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic?,
Stunna,
10-Apr-17 11:39 AM, #75
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Squaremaster,
08-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #2
+1 (n/t),
N b M,
08-Apr-17 03:21 PM, #1
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