wln | Sat 08-Apr-17 02:20 PM |
Member since 11th Jun 2016
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#67654, "CF is convulsing on the ground."
Edited on Sat 08-Apr-17 02:32 PM
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In 2015 I wrote a big post about Bartle, player types and why it was stupid to remove EP rewards for PK, and then EP rewards for exploring. I couldn't find that post now, so I'll repeat it in short.
A long ago CF had 100+ online and good rewards for activity for every playstyle. PKillers were rewarded for PK, explorers were rewarded for exploring, socializers were rewarded for social activity, achievers were rewarded by all those rewards. CF consisted of the almost equal amount of each cohort. And everyone was happy and playing.
Then, for some reason, PK'llers got screwed by removing rewards for their main activity - for PK. Quickly CF lost about 25% of the playerbase, but the staff has ignored it and said that players are idiots and it's not related to the changes in game balance.
Of course, few PKillers has stayed - those, who could also enjoy socializing and exploring. Then, explorers got headshot when some wonderful imm decided to remove EP rewards for explorations. And again players said 'wtf are you doing', but most of those posts got deleted and players banned (me including). When that change was announced, I told that it will draw explorers away, same as happened with PK'llers. I think it's when I've got ban from Umetron.
I've got reply 'you are not player, you have no right to argue - play, then speak'. So, now I have played for a while, and I see that those changes got what has left of playerbase in 2015 almost halved by now.
A day ago I was sitting in the guild and thinking what to do. No one in PK. 21+k commerce exp, so no barter. I would go to explore, but I have no single freaking reason do to so. I would go hunt those who are exploring, but no one explores nowdays because there is no freaking reason to explore. I even TALKED to everyone I had a reason to talk. I even talked to some who I had NOT SINGLE REASON to talk! And then there were no one even to interact, because I've interacted with almost everyone online.
So, immstaff keep shooting CF down again and again. I've took your challeng, Destuvius and Jormyr. I've invested about 400 hours by now to see your changes and have a constructive opinion. I told you that those changes will decrease playerbase, I even told in % how many will you loose and I was quite right in my estimation.
So, when will you begin to listen? You have no expertise in gamedesign and blancing the game. Your actions only makes it worse and worse. It is almost critical moment, after which CF will not recover. Will you begin to cooperate with the playerbase, or is it actually your intention to finish CF and move on? If so, step down and let someone who care to revive it.
I'm writing it not because I want to blame you or want to make you guilty in something, but because I still care for CF and still want it to be saved. Stop being f*g stubborn 'we are the omniscient gods, we know better', and give us a chance to resurrect the game that we love.
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CF is convulsing on the ground.
[View all] , wln, Sat 08-Apr-17 02:20 PM
Rewards aren't the issue.,
Eskelian,
24-Apr-17 09:24 AM, #124
RE: Rewards aren't the issue.,
Isildur,
24-Apr-17 01:09 PM, #125
Generally...,
Eskelian,
24-Apr-17 01:55 PM, #126
That's exactly how it's addictive,
Kstatida,
24-Apr-17 02:20 PM, #127
RE: Generally...,
Jormyr,
24-Apr-17 04:15 PM, #128
This is what did it for me...,
TheProphet1,
24-Apr-17 06:18 PM, #130
It doesn't matter really,
Kstatida,
25-Apr-17 04:57 AM, #131
Not playing for a time often helped me *regain* interes...,
Murphy,
25-Apr-17 06:39 AM, #132
This may be a case as well NT,
Kstatida,
25-Apr-17 06:47 AM, #133
These days...,
Just another batch of carrion (Anonymous),
26-Apr-17 06:34 AM, #135
You mean to say, it doesn't matter to *YOU*. ,
Eskelian,
27-Apr-17 09:45 AM, #136
RE: Generally...,
Eskelian,
25-Apr-17 09:06 AM, #134
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
ordasen,
20-Apr-17 07:43 AM, #123
I agree about..,
Kalageadon,
24-Apr-17 04:24 PM, #129
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Not An Imm,
18-Apr-17 08:22 PM, #120
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Marcus_,
10-Apr-17 06:48 PM, #102
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 06:49 PM, #103
Somewhat more elaborated,
Marcus_,
11-Apr-17 04:27 AM, #106
Allow to make a choice?,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 10:24 AM, #110
Good idea, but,
wln,
11-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #113
No, it's not the main reason.,
wln,
11-Apr-17 06:00 AM, #107
I hate to break it to you....,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 07:08 AM, #108
No, sir.,
wln,
11-Apr-17 09:39 AM, #109
Time management/investment.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:28 AM, #69
RE: Time management/investment.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 10:35 AM, #71
There are a lot of different ways to manage edge points...,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:48 AM, #72
RE: There are a lot of different ways to manage edge po...,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #73
RE: Time management/investment.,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 11:25 AM, #74
RE: Time management/investment.,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #76
FIFY,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:31 PM, #96
Probably goes without saying but..,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 12:57 PM, #87
I take issue with this.,
Java,
10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #77
RE: I take issue with this.,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 11:50 AM, #79
Huh...they communicate more than ever dude!,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:27 PM, #83
Java does have points.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 12:47 PM, #86
RE: Java does have points.,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #98
Of course...communication can ALWAYS get better.,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 05:36 PM, #100
RE: Time management/investment.,
wln,
10-Apr-17 12:11 PM, #80
There was a reason Bron keep coming to your shrine.,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:29 PM, #84
Was fun.,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #89
RE: Time management/investment.,
Saagkri,
10-Apr-17 04:43 PM, #97
EP system as it is now looks good and well balanced for...,
Shapa,
10-Apr-17 03:50 AM, #61
Try to read the initial posts before answering,
wln,
10-Apr-17 04:20 AM, #62
Why make even more grinding? ,
Shapa,
10-Apr-17 04:59 AM, #63
RE: Why make even more grinding? ,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 06:22 AM, #64
Shapa and others don't really get it.,
-flso,
10-Apr-17 10:07 AM, #68
RE: Why make even more grinding? ,
wln,
10-Apr-17 12:17 PM, #81
My #####. Maybe you'll listen to Shaapa? NT,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 12:22 PM, #82
Someone should probably land the killing blow already.....,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:15 PM, #25
TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do tha...,
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:26 PM, #27
RE: TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:31 PM, #29
You don't play.,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:34 PM, #30
RE: You don't play.,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:38 PM, #33
Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month...,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #38
RE: Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month.....,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:59 PM, #40
Though I respect you as a a player...,
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:37 PM, #32
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:39 PM, #34
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #35
RE: Though I respect you as a a player...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #39
Again, couldn't have said it better.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:24 PM, #42
Pretty much this,
Bemused,
09-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #44
Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-is?,
Java,
09-Apr-17 02:54 PM, #45
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #48
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Java,
09-Apr-17 03:30 PM, #51
RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-...,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 03:42 PM, #52
I think he'd make a decent IMM! NT,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 04:54 PM, #56
Did you learn from Umiron that trick?,
wln,
09-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #53
RE: Did you learn from Umiron that trick?,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 04:00 PM, #54
Actually...,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 03:10 PM, #49
Hell, Same made me play again,
Onewingedangel,
19-Apr-17 07:33 PM, #121
Posts like these make me laugh.,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:36 PM, #14
RE: Posts like these make me laugh.,
Kstatida,
09-Apr-17 02:23 AM, #15
I did not WHINE about any of these things.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:18 PM, #41
Be real,
jalbrin,
09-Apr-17 04:38 PM, #55
I'm sure no one "likes" him...,
TMNS,
10-Apr-17 05:39 PM, #101
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
08-Apr-17 07:56 PM, #11
Me and you are copacetic about this. NT,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:34 PM, #13
And again,
Kstatida,
09-Apr-17 02:24 AM, #16
RE: And again,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:25 PM, #57
Yup, Forsaken NT,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #93
CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...),
wln,
09-Apr-17 01:14 PM, #24
RE: CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...),
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:33 PM, #58
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:20 PM, #26
RE: Grinding,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:29 PM, #28
RE: Grinding,
Java,
09-Apr-17 01:35 PM, #31
RE: Grinding,
Tac,
09-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #37
You're right, that is possible.,
Java,
09-Apr-17 03:24 PM, #50
If majority would want it, there would be a high online...,
wln,
10-Apr-17 01:53 PM, #90
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 05:46 PM, #59
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Java,
10-Apr-17 06:50 AM, #65
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
10-Apr-17 07:35 AM, #66
You're wrong,
Kstatida,
10-Apr-17 03:56 PM, #94
RE: You're wrong,
Jhyrbian,
10-Apr-17 05:08 PM, #99
Your logic is flawed,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 10:29 AM, #111
RE: Your logic is flawed,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 10:49 AM, #112
I could care less about his ideas NT,
Kstatida,
11-Apr-17 11:17 AM, #114
According to me how?,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 02:01 PM, #115
RE: According to me how?,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #116
No you aren't... Bro,
Tac,
11-Apr-17 03:20 PM, #117
RE: No you aren't... Bro,
Jhyrbian,
11-Apr-17 04:23 PM, #118
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Jhyrbian,
09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #36
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Isildur,
09-Apr-17 06:07 PM, #60
My generally commentary remains the same,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 05:20 PM, #3
Everyone told it hundreds of times already,
wln,
08-Apr-17 05:52 PM, #4
You need to figure out how to get Scar to do it,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #6
I thought it's responsibility of the staff,
wln,
08-Apr-17 07:41 PM, #8
Things are oft discussed,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:44 PM, #9
So it's the best time to ask and deliver thoughts about...,
wln,
08-Apr-17 07:50 PM, #10
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Java,
08-Apr-17 06:35 PM, #5
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Destuvius,
08-Apr-17 07:28 PM, #7
Dude...we have a serious disconnect here.,
TMNS,
08-Apr-17 11:32 PM, #12
RE: My generally commentary remains the same,
Java,
09-Apr-17 05:02 AM, #17
Veting Imms,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 05:43 AM, #18
RE: Veting Imms,
Java,
09-Apr-17 07:12 AM, #19
People vs process,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 07:34 AM, #20
RE: People vs process,
Java,
09-Apr-17 07:51 AM, #21
Fwiw,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 07:59 AM, #22
Fair enough. ,
Java,
09-Apr-17 10:14 AM, #23
You've also "rushed" former IMMs.,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 02:27 PM, #43
Not only him!,
Destuvius,
09-Apr-17 02:56 PM, #46
:(,
TMNS,
09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #47
A week?,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 09:49 AM, #67
If you're pushing it and not super detail oriented..,
Raltevio,
10-Apr-17 10:33 AM, #70
RE: A week?,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 11:49 AM, #78
RE: A week?,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 12:41 PM, #85
Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 12:59 PM, #88
Oh, that's way less than I thought was required,
lasentia,
10-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #91
RE: Oh, that's way less than I thought was required,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 02:11 PM, #92
Update the sticky?,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 03:59 PM, #95
Which?,
Destuvius,
10-Apr-17 06:57 PM, #104
That one...,
Tac,
10-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #105
That does not seem bad at all.,
Drehir,
11-Apr-17 08:29 PM, #119
RE: Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now,
ordasen,
20-Apr-17 07:16 AM, #122
Don't you get it?,
Eskelian,
02-May-17 07:11 PM, #137
You mean rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic?,
Stunna,
10-Apr-17 11:39 AM, #75
RE: CF is convulsing on the ground.,
Squaremaster,
08-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #2
+1 (n/t),
N b M,
08-Apr-17 03:21 PM, #1
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