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wlnSat 08-Apr-17 02:20 PM
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#67654, "CF is convulsing on the ground."
Edited on Sat 08-Apr-17 02:32 PM

          

In 2015 I wrote a big post about Bartle, player types and why it was stupid to remove EP rewards for PK, and then EP rewards for exploring. I couldn't find that post now, so I'll repeat it in short.

A long ago CF had 100+ online and good rewards for activity for every playstyle. PKillers were rewarded for PK, explorers were rewarded for exploring, socializers were rewarded for social activity, achievers were rewarded by all those rewards. CF consisted of the almost equal amount of each cohort. And everyone was happy and playing.

Then, for some reason, PK'llers got screwed by removing rewards for their main activity - for PK. Quickly CF lost about 25% of the playerbase, but the staff has ignored it and said that players are idiots and it's not related to the changes in game balance.

Of course, few PKillers has stayed - those, who could also enjoy socializing and exploring. Then, explorers got headshot when some wonderful imm decided to remove EP rewards for explorations. And again players said 'wtf are you doing', but most of those posts got deleted and players banned (me including). When that change was announced, I told that it will draw explorers away, same as happened with PK'llers. I think it's when I've got ban from Umetron.

I've got reply 'you are not player, you have no right to argue - play, then speak'. So, now I have played for a while, and I see that those changes got what has left of playerbase in 2015 almost halved by now.

A day ago I was sitting in the guild and thinking what to do. No one in PK. 21+k commerce exp, so no barter. I would go to explore, but I have no single freaking reason do to so. I would go hunt those who are exploring, but no one explores nowdays because there is no freaking reason to explore. I even TALKED to everyone I had a reason to talk. I even talked to some who I had NOT SINGLE REASON to talk! And then there were no one even to interact, because I've interacted with almost everyone online.

So, immstaff keep shooting CF down again and again. I've took your challeng, Destuvius and Jormyr. I've invested about 400 hours by now to see your changes and have a constructive opinion. I told you that those changes will decrease playerbase, I even told in % how many will you loose and I was quite right in my estimation.

So, when will you begin to listen? You have no expertise in gamedesign and blancing the game. Your actions only makes it worse and worse. It is almost critical moment, after which CF will not recover. Will you begin to cooperate with the playerbase, or is it actually your intention to finish CF and move on? If so, step down and let someone who care to revive it.

I'm writing it not because I want to blame you or want to make you guilty in something, but because I still care for CF and still want it to be saved. Stop being f*g stubborn 'we are the omniscient gods, we know better', and give us a chance to resurrect the game that we love.

  

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HOT TopicCF is convulsing on the ground. [View all] , wln, Sat 08-Apr-17 02:20 PM
Reply Rewards aren't the issue., Eskelian, 24-Apr-17 09:24 AM, #124
Reply RE: Rewards aren't the issue., Isildur, 24-Apr-17 01:09 PM, #125
     Reply Generally..., Eskelian, 24-Apr-17 01:55 PM, #126
          Reply That's exactly how it's addictive, Kstatida, 24-Apr-17 02:20 PM, #127
          Reply RE: Generally..., Jormyr, 24-Apr-17 04:15 PM, #128
               Reply This is what did it for me..., TheProphet1, 24-Apr-17 06:18 PM, #130
               Reply It doesn't matter really, Kstatida, 25-Apr-17 04:57 AM, #131
               Reply Not playing for a time often helped me *regain* interes..., Murphy, 25-Apr-17 06:39 AM, #132
               Reply This may be a case as well NT, Kstatida, 25-Apr-17 06:47 AM, #133
               Reply These days..., Just another batch of carrion (Anonymous), 26-Apr-17 06:34 AM, #135
               Reply You mean to say, it doesn't matter to *YOU*. , Eskelian, 27-Apr-17 09:45 AM, #136
               Reply RE: Generally..., Eskelian, 25-Apr-17 09:06 AM, #134
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., ordasen, 20-Apr-17 07:43 AM, #123
Reply I agree about.., Kalageadon, 24-Apr-17 04:24 PM, #129
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Not An Imm, 18-Apr-17 08:22 PM, #120
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Marcus_, 10-Apr-17 06:48 PM, #102
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Jhyrbian, 10-Apr-17 06:49 PM, #103
Reply Somewhat more elaborated, Marcus_, 11-Apr-17 04:27 AM, #106
Reply Allow to make a choice?, Kstatida, 11-Apr-17 10:24 AM, #110
     Reply Good idea, but, wln, 11-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #113
Reply No, it's not the main reason., wln, 11-Apr-17 06:00 AM, #107
     Reply I hate to break it to you...., Tac, 11-Apr-17 07:08 AM, #108
          Reply No, sir., wln, 11-Apr-17 09:39 AM, #109
Reply Time management/investment., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 10:28 AM, #69
Reply RE: Time management/investment., Jhyrbian, 10-Apr-17 10:35 AM, #71
Reply There are a lot of different ways to manage edge points..., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 10:48 AM, #72
     Reply RE: There are a lot of different ways to manage edge po..., Jhyrbian, 10-Apr-17 10:52 AM, #73
Reply RE: Time management/investment., Tac, 10-Apr-17 11:25 AM, #74
Reply RE: Time management/investment., Destuvius, 10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #76
Reply FIFY, Saagkri, 10-Apr-17 04:31 PM, #96
Reply Probably goes without saying but.., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 12:57 PM, #87
Reply I take issue with this., Java, 10-Apr-17 11:41 AM, #77
Reply RE: I take issue with this., Jhyrbian, 10-Apr-17 11:50 AM, #79
Reply Huh...they communicate more than ever dude!, TMNS, 10-Apr-17 12:27 PM, #83
     Reply Java does have points., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 12:47 PM, #86
          Reply RE: Java does have points., Saagkri, 10-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #98
          Reply Of course...communication can ALWAYS get better., TMNS, 10-Apr-17 05:36 PM, #100
Reply RE: Time management/investment., wln, 10-Apr-17 12:11 PM, #80
Reply There was a reason Bron keep coming to your shrine., TMNS, 10-Apr-17 12:29 PM, #84
Reply Was fun., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #89
Reply RE: Time management/investment., Saagkri, 10-Apr-17 04:43 PM, #97
Reply EP system as it is now looks good and well balanced for..., Shapa, 10-Apr-17 03:50 AM, #61
Reply Try to read the initial posts before answering, wln, 10-Apr-17 04:20 AM, #62
Reply Why make even more grinding? , Shapa, 10-Apr-17 04:59 AM, #63
     Reply RE: Why make even more grinding? , Kstatida, 10-Apr-17 06:22 AM, #64
     Reply Shapa and others don't really get it., -flso, 10-Apr-17 10:07 AM, #68
     Reply RE: Why make even more grinding? , wln, 10-Apr-17 12:17 PM, #81
Reply My #####. Maybe you'll listen to Shaapa? NT, TMNS, 10-Apr-17 12:22 PM, #82
Reply Someone should probably land the killing blow already....., Tac, 09-Apr-17 01:15 PM, #25
Reply TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do tha..., wln, 09-Apr-17 01:26 PM, #27
     Reply RE: TMNS, Isildur and Jhyrbian seems to be trying to do..., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:31 PM, #29
     Reply You don't play., Tac, 09-Apr-17 01:34 PM, #30
     Reply RE: You don't play., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:38 PM, #33
          Reply Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month..., Tac, 09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #38
               Reply RE: Pretty sure I asked you in like... the last month....., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:59 PM, #40
     Reply Though I respect you as a a player..., wln, 09-Apr-17 01:37 PM, #32
          Reply RE: Though I respect you as a a player..., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:39 PM, #34
               Reply RE: Though I respect you as a a player..., Java, 09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Though I respect you as a a player..., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #39
                    Reply Again, couldn't have said it better., TMNS, 09-Apr-17 02:24 PM, #42
                    Reply Pretty much this, Bemused, 09-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #44
                    Reply Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-is?, Java, 09-Apr-17 02:54 PM, #45
                         Reply RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-..., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #48
                              Reply RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-..., Java, 09-Apr-17 03:30 PM, #51
                                   Reply RE: Then why do you keep arguing to keep the system as-..., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 03:42 PM, #52
                                        Reply I think he'd make a decent IMM! NT, TMNS, 09-Apr-17 04:54 PM, #56
               Reply Did you learn from Umiron that trick?, wln, 09-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #53
                    Reply RE: Did you learn from Umiron that trick?, Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 04:00 PM, #54
     Reply Actually..., TMNS, 09-Apr-17 03:10 PM, #49
          Reply Hell, Same made me play again, Onewingedangel, 19-Apr-17 07:33 PM, #121
Reply Posts like these make me laugh., TMNS, 08-Apr-17 11:36 PM, #14
Reply RE: Posts like these make me laugh., Kstatida, 09-Apr-17 02:23 AM, #15
     Reply I did not WHINE about any of these things., TMNS, 09-Apr-17 02:18 PM, #41
          Reply Be real, jalbrin, 09-Apr-17 04:38 PM, #55
               Reply I'm sure no one "likes" him..., TMNS, 10-Apr-17 05:39 PM, #101
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Isildur, 08-Apr-17 07:56 PM, #11
Reply Me and you are copacetic about this. NT, TMNS, 08-Apr-17 11:34 PM, #13
Reply And again, Kstatida, 09-Apr-17 02:24 AM, #16
Reply RE: And again, Isildur, 09-Apr-17 05:25 PM, #57
     Reply Yup, Forsaken NT, Kstatida, 10-Apr-17 03:49 PM, #93
Reply CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...), wln, 09-Apr-17 01:14 PM, #24
Reply RE: CF is not an Isildur-only game (or wait...), Isildur, 09-Apr-17 05:33 PM, #58
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Java, 09-Apr-17 01:20 PM, #26
Reply RE: Grinding, Tac, 09-Apr-17 01:29 PM, #28
Reply RE: Grinding, Java, 09-Apr-17 01:35 PM, #31
     Reply RE: Grinding, Tac, 09-Apr-17 01:48 PM, #37
          Reply You're right, that is possible., Java, 09-Apr-17 03:24 PM, #50
               Reply If majority would want it, there would be a high online..., wln, 10-Apr-17 01:53 PM, #90
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Isildur, 09-Apr-17 05:46 PM, #59
     Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Java, 10-Apr-17 06:50 AM, #65
     Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Isildur, 10-Apr-17 07:35 AM, #66
     Reply You're wrong, Kstatida, 10-Apr-17 03:56 PM, #94
          Reply RE: You're wrong, Jhyrbian, 10-Apr-17 05:08 PM, #99
               Reply Your logic is flawed, Kstatida, 11-Apr-17 10:29 AM, #111
                    Reply RE: Your logic is flawed, Jhyrbian, 11-Apr-17 10:49 AM, #112
                         Reply I could care less about his ideas NT, Kstatida, 11-Apr-17 11:17 AM, #114
                         Reply According to me how?, Tac, 11-Apr-17 02:01 PM, #115
                              Reply RE: According to me how?, Jhyrbian, 11-Apr-17 02:34 PM, #116
                                   Reply No you aren't... Bro, Tac, 11-Apr-17 03:20 PM, #117
                                        Reply RE: No you aren't... Bro, Jhyrbian, 11-Apr-17 04:23 PM, #118
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Jhyrbian, 09-Apr-17 01:46 PM, #36
     Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Isildur, 09-Apr-17 06:07 PM, #60
Reply My generally commentary remains the same, Destuvius, 08-Apr-17 05:20 PM, #3
Reply Everyone told it hundreds of times already, wln, 08-Apr-17 05:52 PM, #4
Reply You need to figure out how to get Scar to do it, Destuvius, 08-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #6
     Reply I thought it's responsibility of the staff, wln, 08-Apr-17 07:41 PM, #8
          Reply Things are oft discussed, Destuvius, 08-Apr-17 07:44 PM, #9
               Reply So it's the best time to ask and deliver thoughts about..., wln, 08-Apr-17 07:50 PM, #10
Reply RE: My generally commentary remains the same, Java, 08-Apr-17 06:35 PM, #5
Reply RE: My generally commentary remains the same, Destuvius, 08-Apr-17 07:28 PM, #7
     Reply Dude...we have a serious disconnect here., TMNS, 08-Apr-17 11:32 PM, #12
     Reply RE: My generally commentary remains the same, Java, 09-Apr-17 05:02 AM, #17
          Reply Veting Imms, Destuvius, 09-Apr-17 05:43 AM, #18
               Reply RE: Veting Imms, Java, 09-Apr-17 07:12 AM, #19
                    Reply People vs process, Destuvius, 09-Apr-17 07:34 AM, #20
                         Reply RE: People vs process, Java, 09-Apr-17 07:51 AM, #21
                              Reply Fwiw, Destuvius, 09-Apr-17 07:59 AM, #22
                              Reply Fair enough. , Java, 09-Apr-17 10:14 AM, #23
                              Reply You've also "rushed" former IMMs., TMNS, 09-Apr-17 02:27 PM, #43
                              Reply Not only him!, Destuvius, 09-Apr-17 02:56 PM, #46
                                   Reply :(, TMNS, 09-Apr-17 03:07 PM, #47
                              Reply A week?, lasentia, 10-Apr-17 09:49 AM, #67
                                   Reply If you're pushing it and not super detail oriented.., Raltevio, 10-Apr-17 10:33 AM, #70
                                   Reply RE: A week?, Destuvius, 10-Apr-17 11:49 AM, #78
                                        Reply RE: A week?, lasentia, 10-Apr-17 12:41 PM, #85
                                             Reply Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now, Destuvius, 10-Apr-17 12:59 PM, #88
                                                  Reply Oh, that's way less than I thought was required, lasentia, 10-Apr-17 01:58 PM, #91
                                                  Reply RE: Oh, that's way less than I thought was required, Destuvius, 10-Apr-17 02:11 PM, #92
                                                       Reply Update the sticky?, Tac, 10-Apr-17 03:59 PM, #95
                                                            Reply Which?, Destuvius, 10-Apr-17 06:57 PM, #104
                                                                 Reply That one..., Tac, 10-Apr-17 07:22 PM, #105
                                                  Reply That does not seem bad at all., Drehir, 11-Apr-17 08:29 PM, #119
                                                  Reply RE: Mine was 10ish, we ask for about 30 rooms now, ordasen, 20-Apr-17 07:16 AM, #122
                              Reply Don't you get it?, Eskelian, 02-May-17 07:11 PM, #137
Reply You mean rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic?, Stunna, 10-Apr-17 11:39 AM, #75
Reply RE: CF is convulsing on the ground., Squaremaster, 08-Apr-17 04:46 PM, #2
Reply +1 (n/t), N b M, 08-Apr-17 03:21 PM, #1
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