Eskelian | Tue 06-Jan-15 12:55 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#57692, "Just one quick point..."
Edited on Tue 06-Jan-15 12:55 PM
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...While skill learning relative to what it cost you years ago may have gone down...compared to comparable games available it's still very high.
Most games have zero or minimal skill learning. This game one can expect to spend at least 40 hours spamming skills over the life of their character and more if they have low intelligence and the whole time they're at a non-trivial disadvantage to people who level sit with perfected skills.
That "meta" doesn't work in 2015 like it might have worked in 1998. I encourage you to worry less about historical standards for CF and consider the relative time investment compared with other popular current games.
The big thing about CF is that your characters *DIE PERMANENTLY*. I feel like your role and descriptions and actual interactions/leveling should be your largest time investments with skill spamming relatively small/trivial by comparison. This forces you to interact with other people and roleplay.
Every hour you're skill spamming by necessity you're doing nothing else and hiding from everyone else in the game.
Edited for emphasis on the last sentence.
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Time for a town hall - let's talk game design
[View all] , Torak, Mon 05-Jan-15 10:56 PM
Overstating value,
laxman,
06-Jan-15 09:47 AM, #16
RE: Overstating value,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 07:15 AM, #41
Not really,
laxman,
07-Jan-15 12:30 PM, #50
Addendum,
Artificial,
07-Jan-15 01:35 PM, #51
You can't use guys with 100 charges as the measuring st...,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 04:02 PM, #55
Only bit I agree with,
incognito,
06-Jan-15 09:35 AM, #15
Disagree with all of this and agree with Valg. nt,
Polmier (Anonymous),
06-Jan-15 09:27 AM, #14
RE: Power Creep,
Valguarnera,
05-Jan-15 10:06 PM, #4
Serious question: Do you play CF? ,
TMNS,
05-Jan-15 10:12 PM, #5
Guessing that's a no. Explains a lot. ,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 05:51 PM, #56
Do you play?,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 06:15 PM, #57
Nope. ,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:32 PM, #58
For my own curiosity, as a guy who likes most (if not a...,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 07:35 PM, #59
Because I like you...(even though you were mean to me a...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:47 PM, #60
Its cool if you are in a cabal, or have help from time ...,
Gaplemo,
07-Jan-15 07:50 PM, #61
I always disliked the Red Lair one more...,
TMNS,
07-Jan-15 07:52 PM, #62
I love this solution. nt,
Artificial,
08-Jan-15 04:30 AM, #63
Just take out the impossible spots or make them drop a ...,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 04:39 AM, #64
PS Imms should get a rant channel too :) NT,
TMNS,
08-Jan-15 04:40 AM, #65
I too am interested in the answer to this...,
Tac,
11-Jan-15 09:17 PM, #72
RE: Power Creep,
Tac,
05-Jan-15 10:28 PM, #6
Obs exp is not entirely solo,
incognito,
08-Jan-15 11:54 PM, #68
You've officially become Daevryn,
Torak,
05-Jan-15 10:49 PM, #8
And one more thing about gold,
Torak,
05-Jan-15 10:53 PM, #7
And as a result, you made things less fun.,
N b M,
05-Jan-15 11:10 PM, #9
Conversely,
incognito,
06-Jan-15 01:26 PM, #24
Why so harsh on Valguanera? I agree with him.,
Amora,
06-Jan-15 04:04 AM, #10
I agree with him, too. And your post as well. n/t,
Doof,
06-Jan-15 05:13 AM, #11
One note,
Torak,
06-Jan-15 05:53 AM, #12
RE: Gold and gambing,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:08 AM, #18
Ditto,
incognito,
06-Jan-15 01:24 PM, #23
Some constructive feedback and suggestions, finer detai...,
KoeKhaos,
06-Jan-15 06:41 AM, #13
RE: Some constructive feedback and suggestions, finer d...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 10:47 AM, #19
Just one quick point...,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 12:55 PM #21
RE: Just one quick point...,
Destuvius,
06-Jan-15 01:32 PM, #26
That isn't true.,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 01:44 PM, #27
RE: That isn't true.,
Destuvius,
06-Jan-15 02:10 PM, #29
RE: That isn't true.,
Eskelian,
07-Jan-15 10:52 AM, #43
RE: That isn't true.,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 11:03 AM, #44
RE: That isn't true.,
Eskelian,
07-Jan-15 11:10 AM, #46
RE: That isn't true.,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 11:21 AM, #47
RE: That isn't true.,
Eskelian,
07-Jan-15 11:26 AM, #48
RE: That isn't true.,
Eskelian,
07-Jan-15 11:39 AM, #49
We will never agree apparently,
Destuvius,
07-Jan-15 01:49 PM, #52
RE: We will never agree apparently,
Elerosse,
07-Jan-15 02:12 PM, #53
Eskelian is more right than wrong,
-flso,
09-Jan-15 02:04 AM, #70
One difference...,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-15 01:10 PM, #71
It is true,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:34 AM, #40
RE: It is true,
Eskelian,
07-Jan-15 11:06 AM, #45
I sometimes feel like I'm the only person who uses enla...,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 03:53 PM, #54
I've had a lot of successful chars in regards of PKing....,
Amberion,
08-Jan-15 07:25 PM, #67
RE: Just one quick point...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 01:55 PM, #28
Don't do it because of complaints...,
Tac,
06-Jan-15 02:45 PM, #31
More like 80+ hours...,
KoeKhaos,
06-Jan-15 03:02 PM, #32
CF has become vastly more difficult since when I starte...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 08:59 PM, #35
RE: CF has become vastly more difficult since when I st...,
Umiron,
06-Jan-15 09:29 PM, #36
RE: CF has become vastly more difficult since when I st...,
Cenatar_,
06-Jan-15 10:06 PM, #37
Defenses,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:31 AM, #39
Skill learn numbers,
KaguMaru,
07-Jan-15 05:28 AM, #38
A thought on skill learning.,
Tac,
07-Jan-15 10:10 AM, #42
generalized observation skill gain would be really cool...,
KoeKhaos,
08-Jan-15 07:42 AM, #66
I haven't complained about the system but,
incognito,
09-Jan-15 12:05 AM, #69
RE: Power Creep,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 12:46 PM, #20
Edge idea,
incognito,
06-Jan-15 01:31 PM, #25
Some points,
Humbert,
05-Jan-15 09:58 PM, #3
PKers just see CF as a different game ,
lasentia,
06-Jan-15 10:05 AM, #17
RE: PKers just see CF as a different game ,
Tac,
06-Jan-15 02:35 PM, #30
RE: PKers just see CF as a different game ,
lasentia,
06-Jan-15 03:37 PM, #34
Why bother?,
Tac,
05-Jan-15 09:06 PM, #1
+1. Kinda felt the same way. ,
TMNS,
05-Jan-15 09:20 PM, #2
This is the sad reality.,
Eskelian,
06-Jan-15 01:04 PM, #22
He bothers the same reason you even bother to reply... ...,
KoeKhaos,
06-Jan-15 03:04 PM, #33
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