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StraklawSun 15-Sep-13 11:52 PM
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#51464, "Long list of EVERY skill I could think of."


          

Well, this is kind of a massive list, but I think this is every class skill that I either would never practice, or have...and never found a use for. Some of these are borderline marginal, but figured I'd mention them.

General - Pen. For the love of....can't this just be generic?

Berserker - Take Cover
Berserker - Overrun

I've had both of these skills, and I have only seen take cover work ONCE over multiple Skruggas. Overrun I've never managed to make work.

Conjurer - Armor

Druid - Tsunami
Invoker - Create Water vs. Create Spring
Invoker - Drown
Invoker - Tsunami

I'll mention these all together. First 20 levels of water path are making water ungodly repeatedly, and do they really need to be able to both make it into a container, and as a spring?

Then finally you can do damage, but it's on/in-water only, and 98% of the things you find there are immune. I'll admit in theory they have a use, but in practice I never found it. As an aside...invokers also have no way to innately go underwater until level 38, which is sort of ironic. Air Path spell "Air Bubble"?

Necromancer - Speak with Dead
This one I literally don't remember what it actually does that accomplishes anything, aside from the Tribunal necromancer.

Paladin - Ceremonial Burial
Paladin - Revelation
Ceremonial Burial is just so specific, you never get to use it. Yay for stopping the one random necromancer around from animating it or using gravesight. Revelation I've tried to use, but finding out if someone's standing *right* next to you tends to end up being useless unless you have that area attack, and then I pretty much use the area attack at random. I'll admit it's another theoretically useful spell.

Ranger - Plainsrunning
Ranger - Bramble Pit
Ranger - Poison Arrow
Ranger - Flaming Arrow
Ranger - Aerial Shot
Ranger - Precision

Plainsrunning. OMG, a once per hour run five steps in a straight line? It was useless.
Bramble pit's borderline. Before they know better, sure. After they know you have it? Easily avoided. Also, who doesn't run around with boots on?
Poison/Flaming arrow. Waste your active command choice to attempt to change weapon damage, which attempts to land like normal, and attempts to land poison/immolation. I'd rather just grab a poisonous bow. Even if these would dip the weapon *AND* fire it for an extra shot like backhand, it'd be useful.
Precision...I'm probably going to practice with every character because it sounds useful, but I've never figured out exactly what it accomplished.

Thief - Appraise
Thief - Shadow Drag
Thief - Grapple
Thief - Disengage vs. Shadow Disappear
Thief - Isolate vs. Separate
Thief - Discerning Gaze

Appraise - How is this significantly more useful than lore? Especially if I can get it with observation experience instead of thief points.
Shadow Drag - Oh...shadow drag, how I hate thee. Amazing in concept. In practice, everyone just keeps trying to yell "help" or uses "vis" to negate it.
Grapple - Why it over disarm?
Disengage vs. Shadow Disappear - Admittedly there's a huge level difference, but if I could wait to get a skill that gets me out of combat *and* instantly hides me? Deal.
Isolate vs. Separate - These are so oddly similar, yet different. Remove enemy from room, one starts combat, other doesn't. One tries to disarm if you're barehanded. Do either get used anyways?
Discerning Gaze - Don't you not receive an echo for looking at people if the thief is not visible to the person, or sneaking? I swear I never notice thieves looking at people anyways.

Warrior - Hook

Especially now that broken weapons remain, I'm pretty certain I've never bothered to hook a weapon in my life. Yes, I can hook whips for probably better success, but if I'm not weaponbreaking, I'll probably settle with disarm.

  

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HOT TopicUnwanted Skills/Spells [View all] , Daevryn, Sun 15-Sep-13 07:59 PM
Reply Request/Suggestion to go with Spear/Staff spec discussi..., Arfan (Anonymous), 03-Oct-13 11:22 AM, #133
Reply Trapper sleep traps?, Anti-Hero, 23-Sep-13 10:14 AM, #130
Reply A couple that might not seem so obvious at first. Marin..., Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 04:17 PM, #127
Reply RE: A couple that might not seem so obvious at first. M..., Eskelian, 23-Sep-13 12:33 AM, #129
Reply Evasion, Calion, 21-Sep-13 12:42 PM, #112
Reply I use feint all the time, Theerkla, 21-Sep-13 01:54 PM, #115
Reply RE: Evasion, Daevryn, 22-Sep-13 02:25 PM, #123
Reply No mention of headbutt?, Eskelian, 21-Sep-13 08:52 AM, #108
Reply I've always assumed this skill is better than it appear..., Tac, 21-Sep-13 11:17 AM, #110
Reply Think Lag for Warpriests, Druids, Healers, Shielded Inv..., Frequentplayer, 21-Sep-13 11:51 AM, #111
     Reply Are you seriously suggesting this to me? nt, Tac, 21-Sep-13 01:23 PM, #113
     Reply How about cliping this guys post? He said he didn't und..., Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 12:08 PM, #117
          Reply You call that berserk?, Tsunami, 22-Sep-13 01:29 PM, #119
          Reply I call it pointless., Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 02:02 PM, #120
               Reply So is your post., Tsunami, 22-Sep-13 02:07 PM, #121
                    Reply So is your post x 2 +1. n/t, Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 04:13 PM, #125
                         Reply Dang. My math says that is 3. That is more. n/t, Lhydia, 22-Sep-13 04:16 PM, #126
          Reply RE: How about cliping this guys post? He said he didn't..., Daevryn, 22-Sep-13 02:11 PM, #122
               Reply Who just wrote they couldn't think of a use for headbut..., Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 04:09 PM, #124
                    Reply RE: Who just wrote they couldn't think of a use for hea..., Eskelian, 23-Sep-13 12:30 AM, #128
     Reply I've gotten kills from headbutt, personally., Straklaw, 21-Sep-13 01:42 PM, #114
Reply suggested FIX for headbutt::, Sarien, 24-Sep-13 08:10 AM, #131
     Reply I don't disagree with you..., Tac, 24-Sep-13 09:06 AM, #132
Reply Plainsrunning nt, Tsunami, 20-Sep-13 11:41 AM, #104
Reply Ideas I have for it., Frequentplayer, 20-Sep-13 12:10 PM, #105
     Reply i have a better idea, Dallevian, 20-Sep-13 01:56 PM, #107
          Reply No. My ideas were better and I proved it., Frequentplayer, 22-Sep-13 12:09 PM, #118
Reply I'm not sure why someone would say beastmaster tame suc..., Frequentplayer, 19-Sep-13 01:23 PM, #99
Reply Exotics, Scrimbul, 18-Sep-13 02:18 PM, #90
Reply How about unwanted preps?, Moligant, 17-Sep-13 03:55 PM, #77
Reply Level based, Tsunami, 17-Sep-13 04:10 PM, #78
     Reply RE: Level based, Kalageadon, 18-Sep-13 06:09 AM, #84
Reply Would love to see a diff thread., Eskelian, 17-Sep-13 02:23 PM, #76
Reply Most partial shifts, Valkenar, 17-Sep-13 11:26 AM, #73
Reply Sort of retracting my posts., Valkenar, 17-Sep-13 11:30 AM, #74
Reply RE: Most partial shifts, Daevryn, 17-Sep-13 05:32 PM, #80
     Reply Somehow working in their benefits to a fully-shifted fo..., Mek, 17-Sep-13 06:33 PM, #82
     Reply RE: Somehow working in their benefits to a fully-shifte..., Daevryn, 17-Sep-13 06:58 PM, #83
     Reply RE: Most partial shifts, Valkenar, 18-Sep-13 06:07 PM, #92
          Reply You do?, Tsunami, 18-Sep-13 09:23 PM, #94
               Reply RE: You do?, Ekaerok (Anonymous), 19-Sep-13 09:00 AM, #97
               Reply I do, Valkenar, 19-Sep-13 01:18 PM, #98
                    Reply Aye, Tsunami, 19-Sep-13 03:53 PM, #102
                    Reply 11-15, KaguMaru, 19-Sep-13 05:16 PM, #103
Reply Esoteric armor use, Valkenar, 17-Sep-13 11:21 AM, #71
Reply RE: Esoteric armor use, Eskelian, 17-Sep-13 12:55 PM, #75
     Reply RE: Esoteric armor use, Daevryn, 17-Sep-13 05:34 PM, #81
          Reply Mystical armor use, Artificial, 19-Sep-13 12:14 AM, #96
Reply Random thought on detections, Torak, 16-Sep-13 03:47 PM, #45
Reply RE: Random thought on detections, Straklaw, 16-Sep-13 06:27 PM, #58
Reply Hm, maybe I'm underestimating them?, Valkenar, 18-Sep-13 05:53 PM, #91
     Reply I don't think it has any affect on AC, Tac, 18-Sep-13 07:11 PM, #93
          Reply Except gates., Tsunami, 18-Sep-13 09:26 PM, #95
          Reply RE: I don't think it has any affect on AC, Eskelian, 22-Sep-13 04:24 AM, #116
Reply A couple, Moligant, 16-Sep-13 03:03 PM, #44
Reply RE: A couple, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 06:07 PM, #57
     Reply RE: A couple, Kalageadon, 18-Sep-13 09:12 AM, #88
Reply beastmaster tame, Dallevian, 16-Sep-13 09:28 AM, #28
Reply You can tame the snow leopard from frigid wasteland, DurNominator, 16-Sep-13 01:01 PM, #38
Reply Even that sucks at hero, KaguMaru, 16-Sep-13 01:11 PM, #39
Reply nah, it's nothing. nt, Dallevian, 16-Sep-13 01:40 PM, #41
Reply There are a couple mobs..., Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 02:55 PM, #43
Reply RE: beastmaster tame, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 06:06 PM, #56
Reply Projection, Scrimbul, 16-Sep-13 08:57 AM, #24
Reply It is useful, Cenatar_, 16-Sep-13 11:12 AM, #30
Reply It takes you off the who list, KaguMaru, 16-Sep-13 12:17 PM, #33
Reply It is very useful imho, incognito, 16-Sep-13 12:27 PM, #34
Reply uhh?, CD, 16-Sep-13 12:29 PM, #35
Reply That doesn't work anymore, Drag0nSt0rm, 16-Sep-13 12:33 PM, #37
Reply You kinda show a lack of depth yourself., Frequentplayer, 19-Sep-13 01:26 PM, #100
Reply RE: Projection, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 06:04 PM, #55
Reply Conjure WIll-o-wisp, Drag0nSt0rm, 16-Sep-13 06:49 AM, #21
Reply RE: Conjure WIll-o-wisp, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 06:03 PM, #54
     Reply I always assumed the point was to use it on servitors, Tac, 16-Sep-13 08:04 PM, #61
     Reply I'll agree with this one, Scarabaeus, 16-Sep-13 09:24 PM, #65
          Reply Funny Will-O story, Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 09:49 PM, #66
Reply Antipaladin shield cleave, KaguMaru, 16-Sep-13 04:49 AM, #17
Reply As resident AP enthuisiast, Torak, 16-Sep-13 11:01 AM, #29
Reply Pierce/thrust/slice, Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 11:23 AM, #31
Reply There is more, incognito, 16-Sep-13 12:30 PM, #36
Reply RE: Antipaladin shield cleave, Vilhazarog, 16-Sep-13 01:26 PM, #40
Reply RE: Antipaladin shield cleave, KaguMaru, 17-Sep-13 12:18 AM, #67
     Reply Hit roll?, incognito, 17-Sep-13 06:56 AM, #68
     Reply Same experience as a ranger a few months ago, Calion, 17-Sep-13 07:20 AM, #69
          Reply RE: Same experience as a ranger a few months ago, Daevryn, 17-Sep-13 05:48 PM, #70
Reply RE: Antipaladin shield cleave, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 06:02 PM, #53
     Reply AoD does some resist positive, right?, Tac, 16-Sep-13 08:07 PM, #64
Reply RE: Unwanted Skills/Spells, Lhydia, 16-Sep-13 04:40 AM, #16
Reply Partial shifts.., KaguMaru, 16-Sep-13 04:54 AM, #18
Reply RE: Unwanted Skills/Spells, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 05:55 PM, #52
     Reply Hahaha. Oh. Still pretty useless then. =P n/t, Lhydia, 16-Sep-13 07:54 PM, #60
Reply Long list of EVERY skill I could think of., Straklaw, 15-Sep-13 11:52 PM #12
Reply I'll chime in on the thief part, mkay?, Murphy, 16-Sep-13 01:43 AM, #15
Reply Thoughts , incognito, 16-Sep-13 06:58 AM, #22
Reply plainsrunning and bramblepit yes. AND, Dallevian, 16-Sep-13 09:27 AM, #26
Reply Armorers spell can be very useful indeed, incognito, 18-Sep-13 07:17 AM, #85
Reply Overhead, legsweep and misdirect., Zephon, 15-Sep-13 10:38 PM, #7
Reply RE: Overhead, legsweep and misdirect., Daevryn, 15-Sep-13 10:55 PM, #8
     Reply Ideas, Zephon, 15-Sep-13 11:21 PM, #10
     Reply RE: misdirect., Straklaw, 16-Sep-13 12:04 AM, #13
     Reply Overhead works underwater, Drag0nSt0rm, 16-Sep-13 07:01 AM, #23
     Reply Staff vs spear, vargal, 16-Sep-13 01:52 PM, #42
          Reply Staff is nice, incognito, 18-Sep-13 07:19 AM, #86
               Reply RE: Staff is nice, lasentia, 18-Sep-13 08:06 AM, #87
                    Reply The strengths of the niche aren't lost on me., vargal, 18-Sep-13 12:45 PM, #89
Reply Smear Mud, Perennial Ranger (Anonymous), 15-Sep-13 10:19 PM, #6
Reply RE: Smear Mud, Daevryn, 15-Sep-13 10:56 PM, #9
Reply So what you're saying is..., Tsunami, 15-Sep-13 11:29 PM, #11
Reply Smear mud has an echo when it works NT, Iklahn (Anonymous), 16-Sep-13 05:10 AM, #19
     Reply RE: Smear mud has an echo when it works NT, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 05:49 PM, #51
Reply Smearmud on the wrists works well against kotegaeshi, Theerkla, 16-Sep-13 06:39 AM, #20
Reply Crescent, Tsunami, 15-Sep-13 09:31 PM, #3
Reply crescent AND leverage kick, Dallevian, 16-Sep-13 09:25 AM, #25
Reply Seconded on Crescent and Leverage Kick. (n/t), Ekaerok (Anonymous), 16-Sep-13 09:27 AM, #27
Reply Leverage kick, Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 11:25 AM, #32
Reply Agreed on leverage kick, Calion, 20-Sep-13 12:27 PM, #106
     Reply Small additional note, Calion, 21-Sep-13 09:18 AM, #109
Reply RE: Crescent, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 05:47 PM, #50
     Reply Fair enough., Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 08:05 PM, #63
     Reply RE: Crescent, Ekaerok (Anonymous), 17-Sep-13 11:22 AM, #72
          Reply RE: Crescent, Daevryn, 17-Sep-13 05:27 PM, #79
Reply Whispering Wind and Siltscreen, Homard, 15-Sep-13 09:23 PM, #2
Reply +1 whispering wind, highbutterfly, 16-Sep-13 04:37 PM, #46
Reply RE: Whispering Wind and Siltscreen, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 05:46 PM, #49
Reply I loved using WW, TMNS, 16-Sep-13 06:54 PM, #59
Reply Whispering wind can be used to communicate in the dream..., Frequentplayer, 19-Sep-13 01:42 PM, #101
Reply Panhandle and fence., Murphy, 15-Sep-13 08:55 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Panhandle and fence., Daevryn, 15-Sep-13 09:32 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Panhandle and fence., Tsunami, 15-Sep-13 09:36 PM, #5
          Reply Fence is awesome, Polmier (Anonymous), 16-Sep-13 05:22 PM, #47
               Reply Awesome, Tsunami, 16-Sep-13 08:04 PM, #62
          Reply Tribunal? Seriously?, Murphy, 16-Sep-13 01:08 AM, #14
               Reply RE: Tribunal? Seriously?, Daevryn, 16-Sep-13 05:44 PM, #48
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