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GaplemoWed 25-Apr-12 12:10 PM
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#45111, "Consider this a moment"


          

The current system promotes cheating, heavily. Either you have a wand list, like 90% of the vets have, myself included. (self compiled or not, most everyone that plays CF has some kind of list in some form)

The system is catered heavily to people that share wand locations OOC, or the person with the most friends. If you try to do it all in game, and dont have the luxury of friends to ask, you can sort of get a crap deal. And asking people in game is cool, but really, its mostly ineffective. You might get a few wand spots to check from helpful people, but some characters like APs, necros, evil conjies, they aren't gonna find many allies to ask. A goodie sure, but what about that Scarab muter? Or the evil tribby AP that nobody likes? They're just sort of #### out of luck, unless they find their 3 sleeks in the 20,000 + room mud. It's just too much at times. My system doesn't eliminate the sleek hunt, it just ups their chances of finding one a bit.

Take yourself out of your vet shoes, and look at it from the eyes of a new player, someone on their first year of CF. I've seen basically all of the sleek spots, and a new player wont have a prayer in hell finding some of them. Putting each character to 2 slots gives them more of a chance, the power gamers will still find their wands regardless. Should mages be a class only for the elite? Because I seriously, seriously doubt that a newbie is going to have the edge points to attune, probably ever.

And yeah, if you got 2 crap spots, you would be sorta #### out of luck. You would still have the option of working towards attunement edges, but this idea wasn't catered to giving every mage ABS on a stick. My idea when I came up with it was to keep people from deleting what could be an otherwise great character, that ended up with an impossible to find/get wand set. It would give the more casual mage players a fighting chance. (and some are flat impossible. Sleeks on underwater mobs for shifters that don't have a form that go in water? How is that at all balanced? I know at least one person that got that dice roll.)

You can't make everybody happy, the imms know it, and we have seen it all over these forums lately. But I think this solution just makes the current system bearable. I appreciate any input from anyone, if you like the idea, then speak up! Maybe if enough people like it they would be willing to give it a try. It would still make the wand hunt something that happened, but crap, I doubt people would get stuck and delete cause they "just didnt get good spots, or spent 100 hours and just couldn't find their sleeks"

  

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HOT TopicABS - Not trying to rehash an old complaint but curious... [View all] , Abernyte, Wed 25-Apr-12 05:05 AM
Reply This was a good troll post., robdarken_, 26-Apr-12 02:24 AM, #42
Reply Of course someone who is a complete ####head WOULD thin..., Abernyte, 27-Apr-12 07:15 AM, #58
     Reply tl;dr (nt), robdarken_, 27-Apr-12 10:35 AM, #63
     Reply Well I just believe it is sad that people delete becaus..., Tesline, 28-Apr-12 12:58 PM, #67
          Reply Yeah. I am not one of the deleters, I tough it out but ..., Abernyte, 30-Apr-12 05:04 AM, #69
Reply I wasn't trying to make this thread negative. I apologi..., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 06:36 PM, #25
Reply I didn't think you did. Others, like always, made it i..., Abernyte, 27-Apr-12 07:22 AM, #59
Reply RE: ABS - Not trying to rehash an old complaint but cur..., Daevryn, 25-Apr-12 07:09 AM, #2
Reply Would be real curious to your input on my idea., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 11:39 AM, #8
     Reply I'm guessing the issue is this..., Tac, 25-Apr-12 01:24 PM, #12
     Reply Finding the wand is only half the battle., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 05:43 PM, #22
     Reply RE: Would be real curious to your input on my idea., Daevryn, 25-Apr-12 01:30 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Would be real curious to your input on my idea., ORB, 25-Apr-12 06:34 PM, #24
               Reply Whats up with every post of yours being a bitchfest?, Tac, 25-Apr-12 06:36 PM, #26
               Reply RE: Whats up with every post of yours being a bitchfest..., ORB, 26-Apr-12 02:46 AM, #43
               Reply Because at this point thats all there is left to say., Tesline, 25-Apr-12 07:19 PM, #27
               Reply With that attitude, I doubt you have had a "successful"..., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 07:27 PM, #28
                    Reply No they couldnt of but guess what...they went out in fo..., Tesline, 26-Apr-12 11:52 AM, #48
                         Reply Uhh, I didn't start this thread bro., Gaplemo, 26-Apr-12 08:49 PM, #56
                              Reply Well I can get ABS...my things is this., Tesline, 27-Apr-12 08:48 AM, #62
                                   Reply Its all good., Gaplemo, 27-Apr-12 01:34 PM, #65
               Reply RE: Would be real curious to your input on my idea., Daevryn, 25-Apr-12 07:30 PM, #29
               Reply Well I hope I dont get the switch thrown...., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 07:40 PM, #30
                    Reply RE: Well I hope I dont get the switch thrown...., Thinhallen, 28-Apr-12 10:49 AM, #66
               Reply Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, Zulghinlour, 25-Apr-12 07:53 PM, #31
                    Reply A shame., Tsunami, 25-Apr-12 08:35 PM, #32
                    Reply If only you could be on CF as much as xbox, Gaspar, 25-Apr-12 09:34 PM, #33
                    Reply I really like this idea, Oldril, 25-Apr-12 09:47 PM, #35
                         Reply There is., Tsunami, 25-Apr-12 10:57 PM, #38
                              Reply RE: There is., robdarken_, 26-Apr-12 01:39 AM, #41
                                   Reply Í found it funny that Oldril marked that comment neu..., DurNominator, 26-Apr-12 05:56 AM, #44
                    Reply #### the terrorists, Oldril, 25-Apr-12 09:46 PM, #34
                    Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, N b M, 25-Apr-12 09:52 PM, #36
                    Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, ORB, 25-Apr-12 10:37 PM, #37
                    Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, Zulghinlour, 26-Apr-12 11:16 AM, #47
                         Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, ORB, 26-Apr-12 12:37 PM, #49
                              Reply Addendum:, ORB, 26-Apr-12 04:52 PM, #52
                                   Reply Asshole, Knac, 26-Apr-12 05:04 PM, #53
                                        Reply I concur. (n/t), N b M, 26-Apr-12 05:14 PM, #54
                                        Reply RE: Asshole, ORB, 27-Apr-12 12:08 AM, #57
                                        Reply Cosign, Zephon, 30-Apr-12 01:18 PM, #72
                                             Reply RE: Cosign, Scarabaeus, 30-Apr-12 06:44 PM, #75
                                                  Reply Five of me?, Zephon, 30-Apr-12 08:52 PM, #76
                                                  Reply Re: Draconian, Twist, 01-May-12 10:56 AM, #78
                                                       Reply How?, Tsunami, 01-May-12 01:44 PM, #79
                                                       Reply Yeah, well i dont know., Zephon, 02-May-12 12:36 PM, #80
                    Reply You took my post as whining?, watershifter (Anonymous), 26-Apr-12 12:38 AM, #39
                    Reply RE: You took my post as whining?, Zulghinlour, 26-Apr-12 11:08 AM, #46
                         Reply Out of curiosity..., Dragomir, 26-Apr-12 01:20 PM, #50
                              Reply RE: Out of curiosity..., Kalageadon, 30-Apr-12 12:22 PM, #71
                    Reply I don't want to make it anymore negative for you, but.., robdarken_, 26-Apr-12 01:24 AM, #40
                    Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, Thrakburzug, 26-Apr-12 06:07 AM, #45
                    Reply PLEASE DO THIS WHO EVER YOU ARE., Tesline, 26-Apr-12 04:14 PM, #51
                    Reply I have a spare bed on the beach if you want., TMNS, 26-Apr-12 06:48 PM, #55
                    Reply Nothing, but the love and respect to you Zulg., Shapa, 27-Apr-12 07:52 AM, #61
                    Reply Dude, that's a total bummer., Kongpin, 27-Apr-12 12:21 PM, #64
                    Reply I want you back. In my life. Somehow., TMNS, 30-Apr-12 04:35 PM, #74
                    Reply RE: Re: Screw you guys, I'm going home, Isildur, 29-Apr-12 02:20 PM, #68
Reply Honestly, I have an idea that could work., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 06:15 AM, #1
     Reply Love this idea., Abernyte, 25-Apr-12 08:06 AM, #3
     Reply I second this!, ORB, 25-Apr-12 09:49 AM, #4
     Reply Heh, Tsunami, 25-Apr-12 09:59 AM, #5
     Reply Consider this a moment, Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 12:10 PM #9
          Reply My vet shoes?, Tsunami, 25-Apr-12 12:26 PM, #10
          Reply Can I have vet shoes?, Tesline, 30-Apr-12 09:17 AM, #70
          Reply Why is it hard to find out in game?, laxman, 25-Apr-12 12:47 PM, #11
          Reply Why would someone delete without wands?, Tesline, 25-Apr-12 01:51 PM, #15
          Reply I'm not sure newbies should be able to find all their s..., TMNS, 25-Apr-12 03:39 PM, #20
     Reply the reason i like this idea, lurker, 25-Apr-12 10:01 AM, #6
     Reply That is not really a solution and wouldn't change much, laxman, 25-Apr-12 10:19 AM, #7
     Reply This is -really- good., Splntrd, 25-Apr-12 01:31 PM, #14
     Reply RE: This is -really- good., Daevryn, 25-Apr-12 02:27 PM, #16
          Reply RE: This is -really- good., Splntrd, 25-Apr-12 03:17 PM, #18
          Reply Oh you meant, Splntrd, 25-Apr-12 06:18 PM, #23
     Reply You could also, DurNominator, 25-Apr-12 02:54 PM, #17
     Reply I have a hard time believing this..., TMNS, 25-Apr-12 03:36 PM, #19
     Reply The issue is not with me man. Its a ripple effect., Gaplemo, 25-Apr-12 05:32 PM, #21
     Reply Few additions to this idea., Shapa, 27-Apr-12 07:47 AM, #60
     Reply Good additions - the first three anyway., Abernyte, 01-May-12 03:05 AM, #77
     Reply I think this is a bit too much, Zephon, 30-Apr-12 04:14 PM, #73
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