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IsildurWed 02-Nov-11 05:52 PM
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#41074, "RE: Random Comments of the Morning:"


          

>1) Whenever you think something is too good or too
>unbeatable, or even if you just think a certain combo can't
>stand up to another certain combo, the best way to find out if
>and why you're wrong is to play whatever you think is on the
>strong side of that imbalance seriously.
>
>Even if you have to play something you'd otherwise never play
>to do it, you'll keep the knowledge of how to beat that thing
>for all successive characters.

Maybe. It may also be that the allegedly unbeatable class is only unbeatable when played in a certain way, and you may not be the sort of player who can (or is willing to) play that way.

For instance let's say I'm unhappy that whenever my assassin runs at a thief I either 1) get jacked and stolen from or 2) thief misses the jack then immediately flees and runs away.

So I roll a thief and end up playing aggressively, running at people and trying to attack them, and not being unwilling to take some chances against people I match up semi-poorly against. Consequently I end up dying, and my gear probably never gets to the point it would have if I'd been more conservative. Does my experience playing this thief really speak to my assassin's complaint about specific thieves? Not really. Mainly because played-by-me thief doesn't necessarily behave the same way as played-by-someone-else thief.

Sometimes when people complain about a combo being "unbeatable" what they really mean is "nigh-unbeatable by what I happen to be playing at this very moment.". And, in some cases, they may be pretty close to correct.

Also, player skill matters. Maybe a certain combo is "nigh unbeatable" when played by someone skilled, but that's not the case when it's played by a more mediocre player. If I'm a mediocre player, then putting myself in that guy's shoes may not actually teach me anything. Even if I end up dying a lot, it may be in situations where the more-skilled guy would be very unlikely to suffer the same fate.

  

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HOT TopicRandom Comments of the Morning: [View all] , Daevryn, Wed 02-Nov-11 08:37 AM
Reply Daevryn said it, BaronMySoul (Anonymous), 03-Nov-11 08:02 AM, #49
Reply RE: Random Comments of the Morning:, Isildur, 02-Nov-11 05:52 PM #35
Reply Aside:, Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 03:00 PM, #23
Reply Sorry., TMNS, 02-Nov-11 03:08 PM, #27
     Reply RE: Sorry., Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 03:16 PM, #28
Reply RE: Random Comments of the Morning:, Straklaw, 02-Nov-11 02:07 PM, #20
Reply RE: Random Comments of the Morning:, Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 02:26 PM, #21
Reply Sorry, meant mob/PC level., Straklaw, 02-Nov-11 03:03 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Sorry, meant mob/PC level., Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 03:27 PM, #29
Reply I'm not one to cry wolf about overpowered things, _Magus_, 02-Nov-11 04:02 PM, #31
     Reply Play an evil conjurer., TMNS, 02-Nov-11 04:26 PM, #33
     Reply That's just an excuse though, _Magus_, 02-Nov-11 05:51 PM, #34
     Reply A recent example, MoetEtChandon, 02-Nov-11 07:42 PM, #41
          Reply Pretty sure morosa demons dont have damnation. nt, Artificial, 02-Nov-11 09:07 PM, #42
          Reply Might have been curse than., MoetEtChandon, 02-Nov-11 09:10 PM, #44
               Reply Don't curse neither. nt, Artificial, 02-Nov-11 09:12 PM, #45
          Reply Oh! While it's no longer 4 AM ..., MoetEtChandon, 03-Nov-11 12:40 PM, #53
     Reply Evil Conjie = RBW of mages., Straklaw, 02-Nov-11 06:42 PM, #39
     Reply No, that's not even close to the real drawback of evil ..., Vortex Magus, 05-Nov-11 12:36 AM, #59
          Reply RE: No, that's not even close to the real drawback of e..., Eskelian, 07-Nov-11 12:50 PM, #60
               Reply Depends on your familiar, incognito, 07-Nov-11 06:21 PM, #63
     Reply I'm with you here, AXera, 03-Nov-11 06:52 AM, #48
     Reply yeah conjies are interesting, laxman, 03-Nov-11 08:53 AM, #50
Reply Lies., Twist, 02-Nov-11 09:07 AM, #2
Reply RE: Lies., Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 09:26 AM, #3
Reply RE: Lies., Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 09:32 AM, #4
     Reply RE: Lies., Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 09:35 AM, #5
     Reply you got this backward, laxman, 02-Nov-11 09:44 AM, #6
     Reply Not backwards no., Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 09:47 AM, #7
     Reply Amen., TMNS, 02-Nov-11 01:10 PM, #11
     Reply Tangent, Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 01:12 PM, #12
          Reply Another Tangent., TMNS, 02-Nov-11 01:38 PM, #14
          Reply RE: Another Tangent., Malakhi, 02-Nov-11 01:24 PM, #15
          Reply I am posting here for the first time in a long time to ..., Graatch, 02-Nov-11 01:53 PM, #19
          Reply Literally LOL. People are starting to look at me..., TMNS, 02-Nov-11 02:43 PM, #22
          Reply Well played. (nt), Twist, 02-Nov-11 07:36 PM, #40
          Reply that log should be in the academy nt, Dallevian, 02-Nov-11 09:08 PM, #43
          Reply I dont even know what a unicorn pendant does or is nt, Tesline, 04-Nov-11 02:22 PM, #54
          Reply It's the previous version of the hummingbirds (n/t), Daevryn, 04-Nov-11 04:44 PM, #55
               Reply Why? nt, Tesline, 04-Nov-11 05:05 PM, #56
                    Reply RE: Why? nt, Daevryn, 04-Nov-11 07:44 PM, #58
                    Reply RE: Why? nt, Onewingedangel, 09-Nov-11 02:28 PM, #69
          Reply har!, The-me, 07-Nov-11 05:58 PM, #62
          Reply Unicorn love, Gaplemo, 03-Nov-11 10:58 AM, #52
          Reply I'm not surprised. When was your last level 51 goodie w..., Vortex Magus, 07-Nov-11 08:23 PM, #65
     Reply Unless you get a rager bard :), lasentia, 02-Nov-11 01:26 PM, #16
          Reply Yeah, rager bards are permalag meat :), TMNS, 02-Nov-11 01:37 PM, #17
     Reply RE: Lies., Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 09:54 AM, #8
     Reply Outlined it on the other boards., Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 09:58 AM, #9
     Reply Where is the like button? n/t, orangepowered, 02-Nov-11 01:47 PM, #18
     Reply What do you mean Gamechanging gear?, Tesline, 04-Nov-11 05:08 PM, #57
          Reply RE: What do you mean Gamechanging gear?, Eskelian, 07-Nov-11 01:16 PM, #61
               Reply I have heroed a few including..., Tesline, 09-Nov-11 07:01 AM, #66
                    Reply You can't include shifters in this equation (Even with ..., Alston, 09-Nov-11 10:34 AM, #67
                         Reply Im not saying naked thats stupid but, Tesline, 09-Nov-11 11:18 AM, #68
                              Reply Let's agree to disagree., Eskelian, 10-Nov-11 12:56 PM, #70
     Reply RE: Lies., N b M, 02-Nov-11 03:01 PM, #24
          Reply RE: Ragesteel, Straklaw, 02-Nov-11 03:07 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Lies., Daevryn, 02-Nov-11 03:30 PM, #30
               Reply RE: Lies., N b M, 02-Nov-11 06:36 PM, #38
     Reply RE: Lies., Malakhi, 02-Nov-11 01:15 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Lies., Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 06:20 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Lies., Malakhi, 02-Nov-11 09:17 PM, #46
                    Reply RE: Lies., Eskelian, 03-Nov-11 08:57 AM, #51
     Reply RE: Lies., Isildur, 02-Nov-11 06:00 PM, #36
     Reply Silent Tower changed that though, incognito, 07-Nov-11 06:33 PM, #64
Reply Noob!, Explosion, 02-Nov-11 10:13 AM, #10
Reply :P, Zephon, 02-Nov-11 04:17 PM, #32
Reply Twists half-preped characters, SideStrider, 03-Nov-11 02:23 AM, #47
Reply RE: Random Comments of the Morning:, Eskelian, 02-Nov-11 08:45 AM, #1
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