Daevryn | Wed 02-Nov-11 03:27 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
| |
|
#41067, "RE: Sorry, meant mob/PC level."
|
>Heh, it's painfully obvious once you start dealing with >fiendish ice devils that they're about six steps above even >lesser ice devils. Those things are just wrong.
They only have an extra spell or two, IIRC. Without doing the math I don't think they're likely to be more than a level or two higher.
>I seemed to remember a comment that players won't see all of a >familiar's abilities at level 17, implying maybe that you got >some stuff at higher levels with familiars.
Again, assuming I remember what I was talking about, the main implication of that was that you might have a familiar with abilities that wouldn't be relevant until a higher level, not that you wouldn't see abilities on skill until later. For example, you get familiar at 17 and some familiars have abilities that modify conjuration spells (all of which have echoes when relevant) so if you have a familiar that helps you with elemental summoning, that isn't immediately apparent at 17 since conjure elemental is 3 levels later.
>My question was more, are there devil abilities that you (or >the summoned devil) have to be a certain level to see? Like >where bloodthirst does X, Y, & Z at hero, but only Z at level >35.
Abilities on angels/archons/devils/demons are set by servitor "class", e.g. abishai/bearded/barbed/ice, not by their actual level. That being said, they cast their spells pretty much at their level just like a shaman or whatever would, so wrath from a level 40 angel is going to do more damage and last longer than a level 30 angel's, just as a level 40 paladin's wrath does more damage and lasts longer than a level 30 paladin's.
Servitor level is somewhat correlated with class, in that the large mana pump and a bit of luck that it takes to get a lesser archangel instead of a winged angel also "buys" extra levels for the angel, but theoretically there's no reason a level 35 conjurer can't have a devil which will Rot you -- it's just unlikely to have much in the way of killing power because of its relatively short duration and the tendency of people in a level 35 conjurer's range to not have a 6 CON.
>Or are fiendish ice devils as absolutely terrifying at 40 as >they are at hero?
In terms of the spells they can cast, they are, but the hero's devil is likely to be a lot higher level.
For a number reasons which tend to compound on themselves, a lower level conjurer is much more likely to have a lower class servitor than a higher level conjurer. The Veil is a factor here, as well.
|
|
|
Random Comments of the Morning:
[View all] , Daevryn, Wed 02-Nov-11 08:37 AM
Daevryn said it,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
03-Nov-11 08:02 AM, #49
RE: Random Comments of the Morning:,
Isildur,
02-Nov-11 05:52 PM, #35
Aside:,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 03:00 PM, #23
Sorry.,
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 03:08 PM, #27
RE: Sorry.,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 03:16 PM, #28
RE: Random Comments of the Morning:,
Straklaw,
02-Nov-11 02:07 PM, #20
RE: Random Comments of the Morning:,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 02:26 PM, #21
Sorry, meant mob/PC level.,
Straklaw,
02-Nov-11 03:03 PM, #25
RE: Sorry, meant mob/PC level.,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 03:27 PM #29
I'm not one to cry wolf about overpowered things,
_Magus_,
02-Nov-11 04:02 PM, #31
Play an evil conjurer.,
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 04:26 PM, #33
That's just an excuse though,
_Magus_,
02-Nov-11 05:51 PM, #34
A recent example,
MoetEtChandon,
02-Nov-11 07:42 PM, #41
Pretty sure morosa demons dont have damnation. nt,
Artificial,
02-Nov-11 09:07 PM, #42
Might have been curse than.,
MoetEtChandon,
02-Nov-11 09:10 PM, #44
Don't curse neither. nt,
Artificial,
02-Nov-11 09:12 PM, #45
Oh! While it's no longer 4 AM ...,
MoetEtChandon,
03-Nov-11 12:40 PM, #53
Evil Conjie = RBW of mages.,
Straklaw,
02-Nov-11 06:42 PM, #39
No, that's not even close to the real drawback of evil ...,
Vortex Magus,
05-Nov-11 12:36 AM, #59
RE: No, that's not even close to the real drawback of e...,
Eskelian,
07-Nov-11 12:50 PM, #60
Depends on your familiar,
incognito,
07-Nov-11 06:21 PM, #63
I'm with you here,
AXera,
03-Nov-11 06:52 AM, #48
yeah conjies are interesting,
laxman,
03-Nov-11 08:53 AM, #50
Lies.,
Twist,
02-Nov-11 09:07 AM, #2
RE: Lies.,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 09:26 AM, #3
RE: Lies.,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 09:32 AM, #4
RE: Lies.,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 09:35 AM, #5
you got this backward,
laxman,
02-Nov-11 09:44 AM, #6
Not backwards no.,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 09:47 AM, #7
Amen.,
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 01:10 PM, #11
Tangent,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 01:12 PM, #12
Another Tangent.,
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 01:38 PM, #14
RE: Another Tangent.,
Malakhi,
02-Nov-11 01:24 PM, #15
I am posting here for the first time in a long time to ...,
Graatch,
02-Nov-11 01:53 PM, #19
Literally LOL. People are starting to look at me...,
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 02:43 PM, #22
Well played. (nt),
Twist,
02-Nov-11 07:36 PM, #40
that log should be in the academy nt,
Dallevian,
02-Nov-11 09:08 PM, #43
I dont even know what a unicorn pendant does or is nt,
Tesline,
04-Nov-11 02:22 PM, #54
It's the previous version of the hummingbirds (n/t),
Daevryn,
04-Nov-11 04:44 PM, #55
Why? nt,
Tesline,
04-Nov-11 05:05 PM, #56
RE: Why? nt,
Daevryn,
04-Nov-11 07:44 PM, #58
RE: Why? nt,
Onewingedangel,
09-Nov-11 02:28 PM, #69
har!,
The-me,
07-Nov-11 05:58 PM, #62
Unicorn love,
Gaplemo,
03-Nov-11 10:58 AM, #52
I'm not surprised. When was your last level 51 goodie w...,
Vortex Magus,
07-Nov-11 08:23 PM, #65
Unless you get a rager bard :),
lasentia,
02-Nov-11 01:26 PM, #16
Yeah, rager bards are permalag meat :),
TMNS,
02-Nov-11 01:37 PM, #17
RE: Lies.,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 09:54 AM, #8
Outlined it on the other boards.,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 09:58 AM, #9
Where is the like button? n/t,
orangepowered,
02-Nov-11 01:47 PM, #18
What do you mean Gamechanging gear?,
Tesline,
04-Nov-11 05:08 PM, #57
RE: What do you mean Gamechanging gear?,
Eskelian,
07-Nov-11 01:16 PM, #61
I have heroed a few including...,
Tesline,
09-Nov-11 07:01 AM, #66
You can't include shifters in this equation (Even with ...,
Alston,
09-Nov-11 10:34 AM, #67
Im not saying naked thats stupid but,
Tesline,
09-Nov-11 11:18 AM, #68
Let's agree to disagree.,
Eskelian,
10-Nov-11 12:56 PM, #70
RE: Lies.,
N b M,
02-Nov-11 03:01 PM, #24
RE: Ragesteel,
Straklaw,
02-Nov-11 03:07 PM, #26
RE: Lies.,
Daevryn,
02-Nov-11 03:30 PM, #30
RE: Lies.,
N b M,
02-Nov-11 06:36 PM, #38
RE: Lies.,
Malakhi,
02-Nov-11 01:15 PM, #13
RE: Lies.,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 06:20 PM, #37
RE: Lies.,
Malakhi,
02-Nov-11 09:17 PM, #46
RE: Lies.,
Eskelian,
03-Nov-11 08:57 AM, #51
RE: Lies.,
Isildur,
02-Nov-11 06:00 PM, #36
Silent Tower changed that though,
incognito,
07-Nov-11 06:33 PM, #64
Noob!,
Explosion,
02-Nov-11 10:13 AM, #10
:P,
Zephon,
02-Nov-11 04:17 PM, #32
Twists half-preped characters,
SideStrider,
03-Nov-11 02:23 AM, #47
RE: Random Comments of the Morning:,
Eskelian,
02-Nov-11 08:45 AM, #1
| |
|