::I don't think that's accurate either. It might have been a few years ago, but they've gained from a number of recent changes, especially when we revised mana gains about a year ago. They're a very solid pick for at least three of their classes (invoker, healer, transmuter), and decent angles for several others.



Nice picks for the three classes. Two of which have class enabled dam-reduction and the other a class that doesn't often stand toe to toe with people without wands comming out the ying yang.


::As fighting classes, they stack up well against magi/communers in general- mithril isn't a big concern there, especially given their dodge/etc, and they don't have elemental vulnerabilities that an invoker/conjurer/etc. can punish them with. And being smart never hurts- a lot of players underestimate the value of mental stats.

Yeah, but mithril weapons are a dime a dozen and it's not the dodging people are complaining about, because that's just fine and dandy. But when's the last time you saw someone dodge a backstab, ambush, pincer, flurry, jab, doublethrust, etc. Sure being smart helps but it just seems to me that with drow warriorish classes being smart is on par with being forced to avoid(ie: hide like a bitch from) alot of things.

::I haven't seen too much of how they play out as APs since the (rather significant) changes went in recently, but the gap between duergar/fire APs and the rest of that pack closed as well. I wouldn't say they're my top choice, but they aren't my bottom one either. Another immortal approached me recently to discuss the possibility that they might even be too good in a certain level range, but we're taking a wait-and-see approach there.

No idea on that one, i tend to avoid classes that require hours of prep searching.

::I admit a year ago I would have been singing a different tune. But I've seen a lot more, especially through some tough dark-elf characters that played to their strengths.


I don't know any of these tough dark-elf characters you're talking about. So we'll leave it at that.


Cheers.

Jhyrbian.