As we all know, the different paths of thieves have been reviewed and changed as needs arise and I think a serious look needs to be taken to the 'push' thief. Now I'm not looking for anything drastic but let's look at some things.

Grapple - it's a free hit which is the same thing an orc gets, but they at least get savage feeding. Don't you think a thief would have some more finesse so they don't get hit trying at least, but hit when successful? Pretty risky if it fails which happens quite a bit.

Separate - alright, it's the trap thieves isolate but why can't it work on solo people. Sure it's meant to separate people, but most people will just walk right in and join in. Yes, there are times this isn't possible, but I think this should be more like a super push on one person into another room.

Death strike and strike of the abandoned - alright, no offense, but this skill which a thug thief waits for is quite the joke. It's a normal hit, if that, that continues the fight if someone flees or dies. Don't you think it should have some sort of side effect or at least do more damage or multiple hits? The times they come up which are extremely rare, it can't be used like other skills, and should have a huge benefit which in reality it's nothing at all. I think the same thing was said about Mercy the Typhoon since it seems to have the same effect - or lack of.

Earclap - The deafen for a short time is their finally ability, but can be stopped by the right headgear (least I think so). Now, I can see a use or two for this in the right situation but maybe bring the damage above a mutilate - you'd think it'd stun or do bleeding or something. Yes, I know, you're going to ask how can I bitch about a deafen ability but it's quite risky for a thief to go barehanded for such an attempt.

Parting block and cheap shot is pretty much the only reason people even take this path, and the abilities of this thief don't even compare with a trap/poison/thiefy style thief in "coolness" factors (yes, I just said coolness factors). I guess the reason I bring this up, is the abilities above cheap shot and parting block aren't just...well encouraging to take. Sure if you gear like crazy and catch people so you can trip them to death, you'll win a fight or two but anyone that gets to parting block can do the same thing. Strike on the abandoned, death strike, earclap, seperate and grapple just don't seem like they match up. Could someone at least look at these and compare and see if they match up?

Sure, when I played my trap thieves, everyone said they were overpowered and people started playing them. Same for poison thieves, since they have some real nasty tricks that are just being shown. Binder thiefs...eh, well, if you got friends they're nasty but besides that not really since the bindings fail a lot and they can be broken easily. Galadon thieves have got steal down good which is really nice also, but thug thiefs...how many have been played that went past parting block? Not very man and you don't see them stick around much - just trying to spread the loving and try and shed some like on at least strikeabandon/deathstrike ineffectiveness for how often they get used and maybe think about some tweaks to separate/grapple/earclap.

Beast