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_Magus_Tue 05-Dec-06 04:35 PM
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#15386, "Then there is something about the code I (or you) may be misunderstanding"


          

From my understanding, only a weapon can be in the primary hand, leaving held items, lights, shields, etc. in the offhand only. If as assassin gets off kotegaeshi on a shield dedicated paladin, and they lose their off hand, that means no shield. They are stuck using a weapon, which happens not to be their strong point (because the shield is their strong point).

Since you like to put a lot of obscure scenario's out there when people start asking questions, I'll throw one your way: A shapeshifter wearing the shield from the Ancient white dragon and the Truncheon of power who reverts to cast faerie fire.

And another: Not being able to have a held item in the primary item limits any sort of options of using wands for mages. Maybe a necromancer is fighting an assassin, and they are tiger clawed and kotegaeshi(ed) and the assassin happens to be convulsing. Well, the necromancer probably won't outfight the assassin with a sword, but they could use a nifty wand to finish him off. But not after these changes, not in this scenario.

I think the staff is making a valiant effort to look the other way on this. Or it's beginning to seem that way.

And please don't get the idea that I'm some unappreciative asshole. I appreciate everything you guys do for the game. And if I could contribute (beyond playing), I would. But I don't know how to code, and you do. So I'm just sharing with you what I feel is right, and what I think was a bad decision.





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HOT TopicDual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread) [View all] , Zulghinlour, Mon 04-Dec-06 01:49 PM
Reply Dual-Wielding Phase 2, Zulghinlour, 09-Dec-06 03:17 PM, #66
Reply Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1, Zulghinlour, 09-Dec-06 07:45 PM, #67
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1, _Magus_, 09-Dec-06 10:38 PM, #70
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1, Zulghinlour, 09-Dec-06 10:48 PM, #71
          Reply RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1, _Magus_, 09-Dec-06 10:52 PM, #72
               Reply RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1, Zulghinlour, 09-Dec-06 11:02 PM, #73
                    Reply Thanks for the responses. ~, _Magus_, 09-Dec-06 11:04 PM, #74
     Reply Can we get an echo for unsuccesful Dual Wield ->, Cassman, 10-Dec-06 11:54 PM, #81
          Reply Or better yet..., Tac, 11-Dec-06 12:38 AM, #82
               Reply Random thought..., Tac, 11-Dec-06 12:39 AM, #83
Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), TheDude, 05-Dec-06 01:34 PM, #28
Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), Zulghinlour, 04-Dec-06 02:01 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding and Fun, Valguarnera, 04-Dec-06 03:26 PM, #2
     Reply In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Trying t..., Vladamir, 04-Dec-06 05:44 PM, #6
     Reply RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi..., Valguarnera, 04-Dec-06 09:32 PM, #16
          Reply RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi..., Java, 05-Dec-06 06:48 AM, #19
               Reply RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi..., Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 08:28 AM, #20
               Reply RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi..., Java, 05-Dec-06 09:50 PM, #52
               Reply RE: Bad Game Theory:, Valguarnera, 05-Dec-06 09:21 AM, #21
                    Reply Game theory Schametheory, Marcus_, 05-Dec-06 10:02 AM, #22
                    Reply I disagree., (NOT Pro), 05-Dec-06 11:19 AM, #24
                    Reply Lol, Marcus_, 05-Dec-06 12:18 PM, #26
                    Reply This is how I die too, I'm just not as aggressive. Marc..., Scrimbul, 05-Dec-06 12:56 PM, #27
                    Reply RE: Credibility:, Valguarnera, 05-Dec-06 03:05 PM, #32
                    Reply RE: Credibility:, (NOT Pro), 09-Dec-06 10:30 PM, #68
                         Reply RE: Credibility:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 10:03 AM, #75
                              Reply I can't say if I do or don't., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 11:36 AM, #76
                                   Reply RE: I can't say if I do or don't., Nivek1, 10-Dec-06 02:03 PM, #77
                                   Reply I realize principles escape many people, (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 07:03 PM, #78
                                        Reply Must be, Nivek1, 10-Dec-06 07:17 PM, #79
                                        Reply You made this statment., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 04:44 PM, #95
                                        Reply RE: I realize principles escape many people, DurNominator, 11-Dec-06 01:15 PM, #89
                                             Reply RE: I realize principles escape many people, Marcus_, 11-Dec-06 03:27 PM, #90
                                                  Reply But you still use triggers., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 04:38 PM, #91
                                                  Reply No. Just plain no., Tac, 11-Dec-06 04:44 PM, #94
                                                       Reply RE: No. Just plain no., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 04:51 PM, #97
                                                       Reply Hehe you remind me of old wiggle####, Marcus_, 11-Dec-06 05:12 PM, #99
                                                       Reply RE: No. Just plain no., Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 05:19 PM, #101
                                                       Reply RE: Marcus and triggers:, Valguarnera, 11-Dec-06 05:43 PM, #103
                                                       Reply Ok..., Tac, 11-Dec-06 05:56 PM, #104
                                                       Reply RE: No. Just plain no., Isildur, 11-Dec-06 06:48 PM, #105
                                                       Reply If you come up with a good answer, let me know. (n/t), Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 07:41 PM, #108
                                                       Reply I wish I could find the article I read..., Tac, 11-Dec-06 08:40 PM, #110
                                                       Reply RE: No. Just plain no., Marcus_, 12-Dec-06 04:22 AM, #121
                                                       Reply Have you ever snooped me?, (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 10:49 PM, #112
                                                       Reply RE: Have you ever snooped me?, Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 11:03 PM, #113
                                                       Reply Nep: I don't understand what you mean?, (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 11:08 PM, #114
                                                       Reply Nope:, Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 11:13 PM, #116
                                                       Reply I quit doing that after Eshval told me to stop, (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 11:37 PM, #118
                                                  Reply You are wasting your time...., Tac, 11-Dec-06 04:38 PM, #92
                                                       Reply Your angst is not proof of fact., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 04:53 PM, #98
                                   Reply RE: I can't say if I do or don't., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 07:33 PM, #80
                                        Reply What does my PK ratio have to do with...., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 04:42 PM, #93
                                             Reply Yea..., Tac, 11-Dec-06 04:48 PM, #96
                                             Reply I'm not seeing a name. (n/t), Valguarnera, 11-Dec-06 05:17 PM, #100
                                             Reply Here's the thing, Pro, (NOT Graatch), 11-Dec-06 05:34 PM, #102
                                             Reply Made perfect sense., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 11:05 PM, #111
                                                  Reply Wha?, Valguarnera, 11-Dec-06 11:21 PM, #117
                                                       Reply I don't profess to be a PK' machine., (NOT Pro), 11-Dec-06 11:32 PM, #119
                                                       Reply Additionally., (NOT Pro), 12-Dec-06 12:46 AM, #120
                                             Reply Don't call them out on the red herring bit, N b M, 11-Dec-06 07:04 PM, #106
                                                  Reply Jesus. So much stupid drama., Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 07:39 PM, #107
                                                       Reply Ouch, junior high school., N b M, 11-Dec-06 08:06 PM, #109
                                                            Reply RE: Ouch, junior high school., Daevryn, 11-Dec-06 11:11 PM, #115
                    Reply Addendumn, (NOT Pro), 09-Dec-06 10:35 PM, #69
                    Reply RE: Game theory Schametheory, Valguarnera, 05-Dec-06 03:15 PM, #33
                         Reply RE: Game theory Schametheory, DurNominator, 05-Dec-06 03:58 PM, #34
                         Reply RE: Game theory Schametheory, Tac, 05-Dec-06 04:14 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: Game theory Schametheory, Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 04:49 PM, #41
                                   Reply HA!, Tac, 05-Dec-06 05:07 PM, #45
                                   Reply Either way conjie pay dirt is at 28., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:46 AM, #85
                    Reply Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a "flip..., _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 11:26 AM, #25
                         Reply RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a, Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 02:13 PM, #29
                         Reply Then there is something about the code I (or you) may b..., _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 04:35 PM #37
                         Reply RE: Then there is something about the code I (or you) m..., Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 04:43 PM, #38
                              Reply Can you explain to us how it used to work then?, _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 04:48 PM, #40
                              Reply RE: Can you explain to us how it used to work then?, Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 04:53 PM, #42
                                   Reply And that doesn't strike you as being wrong? ~, _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 04:58 PM, #44
                                   Reply I am pretty sure you're mistaken., (NOT Graatch), 05-Dec-06 05:16 PM, #47
                                   Reply Could be. It's been a while. (n/t), Daevryn, 05-Dec-06 05:54 PM, #49
                                        Reply I'm with Graatch., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:41 AM, #84
                                   Reply I'm positive you could use a held item with a broken wr..., Jagaub, 06-Dec-06 09:44 AM, #58
                                        Reply You illustrated that a lot better than I could have. Th..., _Magus_, 06-Dec-06 04:12 PM, #59
                                        Reply I did this with Graatch., (NOT Graatch), 06-Dec-06 07:52 PM, #61
                              Reply I don't get to say this very much, but you're wrong., Java, 05-Dec-06 09:41 PM, #51
                         Reply My mages routinely use shield + wand. nt, Vladamir, 05-Dec-06 05:53 PM, #48
                         Reply RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a, Zulghinlour, 05-Dec-06 02:15 PM, #30
                         Reply RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a, _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 04:27 PM, #36
                         Reply RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a, DurNominator, 06-Dec-06 05:17 AM, #56
                         Reply RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a, Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:56 AM, #87
                         Reply Are you sure you're thinking of the same guy? nt, Vladamir, 05-Dec-06 04:57 PM, #43
     Reply You know what?, Dwoggurd, 05-Dec-06 04:04 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), Valkenar, 04-Dec-06 03:32 PM, #3
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), Daevryn, 04-Dec-06 06:27 PM, #8
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), Igsoeh, 04-Dec-06 03:45 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread), Daevryn, 04-Dec-06 06:32 PM, #9
          Reply I'll give you a case, at least for instrument not being..., Scrimbul, 04-Dec-06 06:46 PM, #10
               Reply Would you feel that way..., Daevryn, 04-Dec-06 08:05 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: Would you feel that way..., Scrimbul, 04-Dec-06 08:15 PM, #14
                         Reply Actually, speaking as someone who has used a shield to ..., Vladamir, 04-Dec-06 08:46 PM, #15
     Reply I just want to say..., Tac, 04-Dec-06 04:33 PM, #5
     Reply RE: I just want to say..., Daevryn, 04-Dec-06 06:24 PM, #7
          Reply RE: I just want to say..., Vladamir, 04-Dec-06 07:22 PM, #12
     Reply Solution, WildGirl, 04-Dec-06 07:17 PM, #11
     Reply That's not really fair., Java, 05-Dec-06 06:41 AM, #18
     Reply RE: That's not really fair., Zulghinlour, 05-Dec-06 02:22 PM, #31
          Reply RE: That's not really fair., Java, 05-Dec-06 04:45 PM, #39
     Reply Simple steps to determine if this is a good idea., Farigno, 05-Dec-06 11:09 AM, #23
          Reply You should stay away from humor as much as possible. ~, _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 05:07 PM, #46
          Reply I would retort that perhaps you need to fine one., Farigno, 05-Dec-06 09:17 PM, #50
               Reply I have plenty of humor, kthxbye, _Magus_, 05-Dec-06 10:11 PM, #54
                    Reply RE: I have plenty of humor, kthxbye, Farigno, 06-Dec-06 09:25 PM, #64
          Reply Ok, right after you do this:, Java, 05-Dec-06 09:53 PM, #53
          Reply RE: Ok, right after you do this:, Farigno, 06-Dec-06 01:36 AM, #55
               Reply Realistic you say, Greddarh, 06-Dec-06 07:46 AM, #57
               Reply RE: Realistic you say, Farigno, 06-Dec-06 07:06 PM, #60
               Reply I have a very simple solution., Rogue, 06-Dec-06 08:31 PM, #63
               Reply The problem is you got it backwards., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:50 AM, #86
          Reply I'd just smack the bouncer with the recorder ;) then ma..., Rogue, 06-Dec-06 08:27 PM, #62
          Reply Yay! Finally someone with a sense of humor! n/t, Farigno, 07-Dec-06 12:04 AM, #65
          Reply RE: Simple steps to determine if this is a good idea., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 04:01 AM, #88
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