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shokaiWed 11-Jun-03 01:53 PM
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#1270, "yessir!"


  

          


- If you bitch about it on a forum, don't do it in the game. Not you, but there's some other people who I've certainly seen in a gang often enough when it wasn't necessary.

I'm probably kicking a dead horse here, but I don't think that horse can be kicked enough in this case. If you're bitching about something folks, and then expecting someone else to change it and 'going with the flow' in the meantime...chances are it's not going to change. I'm not saying that if you refuse to gang/full loot/wear shoes/whatever that everyone else is going to stop doing it. In fact there's a good chance that a small minority of the player base will laugh at you and consider you an easy target. However, if you stick to it you might eventually find that there are a lot of people who respect you for it* and may even go on to emulate the example you've set.

I've said it before, and I know I'll end up saying it again, but in most cases sweeping changes in mortalland aren't for the imms to enforce and create....it has to come from the players. As imms we can give nudges and bonuses and cookies for doing things that we want done...but ultimately change has to come from the playerbase on most of the issues that started this thread.

* I should point out, if you're obnoxius about the change you're trying to impose. Like, you constantly chastise people on the forum who don't do what you're doing....OR you smack talk constantly. Expect the reverse to happen...and to have your ass repeatedly mowed over. If you're looking to make sweeping changes and what to do it through force of character....being an asshole isn't your best bet. Keep that in mind.


More advice from Unca Floofi.

  

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HOT TopicCrappy trends forming.. [View all] , Gabe, Tue 10-Jun-03 01:38 PM
Reply Cabal issues., josiah (Anonymous), 18-Jun-03 07:38 PM, #56
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Nivek1, 19-Jun-03 09:27 AM, #57
Reply RE: Cabal issues., nepenthe, 19-Jun-03 09:43 AM, #58
Reply Give neutrals Empire then?, josiah (Anonymous), 19-Jun-03 08:04 PM, #60
     Reply We've discussed this internally, and we're sticking wit..., Zulghinlour, 19-Jun-03 08:20 PM, #61
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Karithia, 19-Jun-03 12:30 PM, #59
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Brotmin, 22-Jun-03 08:13 PM, #63
     Reply Huh?, Quislet, 24-Jun-03 01:17 AM, #64
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Jarvino, 19-Jun-03 11:27 PM, #62
Reply My thoughts, Nivek1, 18-Jun-03 10:12 AM, #52
Reply As re: cabal raids, Theerkla, 18-Jun-03 01:00 PM, #53
Reply What i think., Jhyrbian, 13-Jun-03 10:11 PM, #47
Reply Something to keep in mind, (NOT Graatch), 18-Jun-03 02:23 PM, #54
     Reply Leika. Absolutely., Balrahd, 18-Jun-03 04:30 PM, #55
Reply The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 02:12 PM, #43
Reply And don't forget:, Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:29 PM, #44
Reply It's a toss-up., Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #46
Reply RE: The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Valkenar, 13-Jun-03 02:54 PM, #45
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., nepenthe, 11-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #37
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Gabe, 11-Jun-03 03:58 PM, #38
Reply Comments and question for imms, Marcus_, 11-Jun-03 10:09 AM, #31
Reply RE: Comments and question for imms, Valguarnera, 11-Jun-03 01:22 PM, #35
     Reply yessir!, shokai, 11-Jun-03 01:53 PM #36
Reply Source of the rose colored glasses?, idontplay, 11-Jun-03 04:28 AM, #29
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Doge, 10-Jun-03 06:31 PM, #21
Reply RE: group vs group combat rules, Scarabaeus, 10-Jun-03 10:38 PM, #28
Reply I like a lot of this stuff but, incognito, 10-Jun-03 06:06 PM, #18
Reply RE: I like a lot of this stuff but, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:24 PM, #20
Reply RE: Save, Valguarnera, 10-Jun-03 10:06 PM, #27
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Hutto, 10-Jun-03 05:34 PM, #17
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., marcalius, 10-Jun-03 03:44 PM, #14
Reply Simple solution for one of the problems., Anal_Retentive, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #12
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Boldereth, 10-Jun-03 03:26 PM, #11
Reply beware...mild rant inside, shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:48 PM, #15
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Hutto, 10-Jun-03 04:48 PM, #16
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:19 PM, #19
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Quislet, 10-Jun-03 06:45 PM, #22
          Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:50 PM, #24
               Reply I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 12-Jun-03 06:08 PM, #40
                    Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Gabe, 13-Jun-03 01:17 PM, #41
                         Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:06 PM, #42
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Boldereth, 11-Jun-03 09:47 PM, #39
          Reply it's happening more than people think..., shokai, 14-Jun-03 12:20 AM, #48
               Reply Speaking specifically for full looting..., Gabe, 16-Jun-03 02:57 PM, #49
                    Reply RE: Speaking specifically for full looting..., Valguarnera, 16-Jun-03 07:46 PM, #50
                         Reply Idea in this context, Doge, 17-Jun-03 10:01 PM, #51
Reply selective memory...., shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:18 PM, #7
Reply RE: selective memory...., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:22 PM, #9
Reply Ah Smurfs..., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #13
Reply good times..., Larshalv, 11-Jun-03 08:10 AM, #30
Reply Problem is, Valkenar, 10-Jun-03 02:53 PM, #6
Reply Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 02:44 PM, #5
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:48 PM, #23
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 07:10 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 11-Jun-03 10:31 AM, #32
          Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 11-Jun-03 12:27 PM, #33
               Reply Thanks for the feedback, Z. (n/t), Gabe, 11-Jun-03 12:33 PM, #34
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zepachu, 10-Jun-03 08:11 PM, #26
Reply Please take off the rose colored glasses, Tanadin (Anonymous), 10-Jun-03 02:42 PM, #4
Reply RE: Please take off the rose colored glasses, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:23 PM, #10
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Mazaufat, 10-Jun-03 02:41 PM, #3
Reply If you are going to respond.., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:19 PM, #8
Reply Some good thoughts, and.., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 02:33 PM, #2
Reply I believe the lag on loot was first proposed by me..., (NOT Pro), 10-Jun-03 02:06 PM, #1
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