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HuttoTue 10-Jun-03 04:48 PM
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#1226, "RE: beware...mild rant inside"


          

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> So help me, if I see one more post by Team Evil or Team Good
>on this subject, I'm going to freakin' lose it. I've seen
>people accuse goods of 'heroing to avoid fighting' and seen
>people accuse evils of 'not heroing to avoid fighting'. From a
>rather basic standpoint, one of those arguements is ludicrous
> (I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine which
>one)....

I've said something similiar to that. As I don't know anyone else to have said anything similiar, I'll assume (perhaps wrongly) you're talking about what I said.

It was "Both sides are playing their characters at a level where there is minimial opposition. You didn't have to powerrank to hero." It was said to someone who claimed to have seen a large group of evils around the 30-40 range and then he said "So I roll up a goodie (expecting some huge odds), powerrank to hero, and notice none of them are able to rank." Then goes on to bitch and complain about the evils not being hero.

During my playing time, there are a disproportionate number of evils in the 30-41 range, and there are a disproportionate number of goods at Hero. I was trying to point out that it was his own fault for leveling too fast if he only rolled up the character to fight the disproportionate group of evils. Basically, like you, I wanted him to quit whining about it.

>as for the 'hey heros go explore and don't kill the
>lowbies in your pk range'...uhm, yeah okay. I read that as
>'ignore your roleplay obligations and let your enemy get a
>foothold'.

Only if you solely look at player characters as your enemy. Who is to say that Kteng isn't pumping out evilness that may threaten the Heroes?



>From a player's point of view, I see what you're
>saying...however from the same player's point of view let me
>tell you what I've seen over the many years of CF.
> We've all read/commented about the constant flux that CF
>exists in. Be in magic vs ragers, good vs evil, or gnome vs
>giant. We've come to all more or less realise that the scale
>slides back and forth.

I agree. I enjoy it because it allows me to play the underdog in a variety of cabals. I tend to delete characters when friends and allies outnumber enemies 5 to 1. It is horribly boring for me. Then again, I rarely Hero with full con.

  

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Reply Cabal issues., josiah (Anonymous), 18-Jun-03 07:38 PM, #56
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Nivek1, 19-Jun-03 09:27 AM, #57
Reply RE: Cabal issues., nepenthe, 19-Jun-03 09:43 AM, #58
Reply Give neutrals Empire then?, josiah (Anonymous), 19-Jun-03 08:04 PM, #60
     Reply We've discussed this internally, and we're sticking wit..., Zulghinlour, 19-Jun-03 08:20 PM, #61
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Karithia, 19-Jun-03 12:30 PM, #59
Reply RE: Cabal issues, Brotmin, 22-Jun-03 08:13 PM, #63
     Reply Huh?, Quislet, 24-Jun-03 01:17 AM, #64
Reply RE: Cabal issues., Jarvino, 19-Jun-03 11:27 PM, #62
Reply My thoughts, Nivek1, 18-Jun-03 10:12 AM, #52
Reply As re: cabal raids, Theerkla, 18-Jun-03 01:00 PM, #53
Reply What i think., Jhyrbian, 13-Jun-03 10:11 PM, #47
Reply Something to keep in mind, (NOT Graatch), 18-Jun-03 02:23 PM, #54
     Reply Leika. Absolutely., Balrahd, 18-Jun-03 04:30 PM, #55
Reply The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 02:12 PM, #43
Reply And don't forget:, Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:29 PM, #44
Reply It's a toss-up., Zepachu, 13-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #46
Reply RE: The End All Be All Sub-Thread Re: LOOTING, Valkenar, 13-Jun-03 02:54 PM, #45
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., nepenthe, 11-Jun-03 03:06 PM, #37
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Gabe, 11-Jun-03 03:58 PM, #38
Reply Comments and question for imms, Marcus_, 11-Jun-03 10:09 AM, #31
Reply RE: Comments and question for imms, Valguarnera, 11-Jun-03 01:22 PM, #35
     Reply yessir!, shokai, 11-Jun-03 01:53 PM, #36
Reply Source of the rose colored glasses?, idontplay, 11-Jun-03 04:28 AM, #29
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Doge, 10-Jun-03 06:31 PM, #21
Reply RE: group vs group combat rules, Scarabaeus, 10-Jun-03 10:38 PM, #28
Reply I like a lot of this stuff but, incognito, 10-Jun-03 06:06 PM, #18
Reply RE: I like a lot of this stuff but, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:24 PM, #20
Reply RE: Save, Valguarnera, 10-Jun-03 10:06 PM, #27
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Hutto, 10-Jun-03 05:34 PM, #17
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., marcalius, 10-Jun-03 03:44 PM, #14
Reply Simple solution for one of the problems., Anal_Retentive, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #12
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Boldereth, 10-Jun-03 03:26 PM, #11
Reply beware...mild rant inside, shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:48 PM, #15
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Hutto, 10-Jun-03 04:48 PM #16
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Isildur, 10-Jun-03 06:19 PM, #19
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Quislet, 10-Jun-03 06:45 PM, #22
          Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:50 PM, #24
               Reply I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 12-Jun-03 06:08 PM, #40
                    Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Gabe, 13-Jun-03 01:17 PM, #41
                         Reply RE: I wasn't paraphrasing., Quislet, 13-Jun-03 02:06 PM, #42
     Reply RE: beware...mild rant inside, Boldereth, 11-Jun-03 09:47 PM, #39
          Reply it's happening more than people think..., shokai, 14-Jun-03 12:20 AM, #48
               Reply Speaking specifically for full looting..., Gabe, 16-Jun-03 02:57 PM, #49
                    Reply RE: Speaking specifically for full looting..., Valguarnera, 16-Jun-03 07:46 PM, #50
                         Reply Idea in this context, Doge, 17-Jun-03 10:01 PM, #51
Reply selective memory...., shokai, 10-Jun-03 03:18 PM, #7
Reply RE: selective memory...., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:22 PM, #9
Reply Ah Smurfs..., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 03:28 PM, #13
Reply good times..., Larshalv, 11-Jun-03 08:10 AM, #30
Reply Problem is, Valkenar, 10-Jun-03 02:53 PM, #6
Reply Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 02:44 PM, #5
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 06:48 PM, #23
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 10-Jun-03 07:10 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Gabe, 11-Jun-03 10:31 AM, #32
          Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zulghinlour, 11-Jun-03 12:27 PM, #33
               Reply Thanks for the feedback, Z. (n/t), Gabe, 11-Jun-03 12:33 PM, #34
Reply RE: Re: This is a game, Zepachu, 10-Jun-03 08:11 PM, #26
Reply Please take off the rose colored glasses, Tanadin (Anonymous), 10-Jun-03 02:42 PM, #4
Reply RE: Please take off the rose colored glasses, Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:23 PM, #10
Reply RE: Crappy trends forming.., Mazaufat, 10-Jun-03 02:41 PM, #3
Reply If you are going to respond.., Gabe, 10-Jun-03 03:19 PM, #8
Reply Some good thoughts, and.., Santa Claus, 10-Jun-03 02:33 PM, #2
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