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TacThu 06-Jul-17 07:50 AM
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#68508, "The OP part is actually the stealth part."


          

Which is why outlander is in play. The ability to pick fights with very nearly 100% impunity even if people know you are there is what is OP. Why engage someone geared to fight you? Just look at them, see their gear, and then move along.

Camo and hide both protect classes with them in similar ways, but even assassin hide has more restrictions than duo *and* if someone can see you, they can strike. Duo stops even that. Unless there is some hidden hard counter to duo (enemy muter?) that I'm not aware of, the issue with muters is really an issue with duo being too good, or the combo of duo + chamo being too good, not because you can be both at the same time, but because you can switch between when the situation warrants, giving you zero? enemies who can both see you and do something about it directly.

  

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HOT TopicOutlander Transmuter [View all] , Wondering (Anonymous), Mon 03-Jul-17 05:43 PM
Reply No, he was a human/halfie cherry picker, amazingdonnie, 05-Jul-17 06:24 PM, #13
Reply You crazy. NT, TMNS, 05-Jul-17 07:19 PM, #14
Reply Not too off, though., Murphy, 05-Jul-17 07:28 PM, #15
     Reply I'd argue they are strongest at like 20ish, actually., TMNS, 06-Jul-17 06:37 PM, #21
Reply This, Kstatida, 06-Jul-17 06:55 AM, #18
     Reply The OP part is actually the stealth part., Tac, 06-Jul-17 07:50 AM #19
          Reply I was commenting on personality, Kstatida, 06-Jul-17 12:22 PM, #20
               Reply Right, but the personality is tough to execute..., Tac, 06-Jul-17 07:27 PM, #22
                    Reply The stealth aspect is what sets assassins/transmuters a..., TMNS, 06-Jul-17 08:30 PM, #23
                         Reply Stealth is fine, but where is the duergar for muters?, Tac, 07-Jul-17 10:40 AM, #24
                              Reply So like Mark Target?, The-me, 07-Jul-17 10:56 AM, #25
                              Reply Mark assumes you've already caught them out of duo..., Tac, 07-Jul-17 11:01 AM, #26
                                   Reply Aoe used to bring them out - along with the lag it bala..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 11:16 AM, #27
                                        Reply Reveal/faerie fog spells did., Jormyr, 07-Jul-17 08:13 PM, #29
                                             Reply Some ideas..., Tac, 07-Jul-17 08:31 PM, #31
                                             Reply This, Kstatida, 10-Jul-17 06:41 AM, #46
                                             Reply A huge boon to muters was..., Saagkri, 07-Jul-17 10:54 PM, #34
                              Reply Invokers and Air forms., TMNS, 07-Jul-17 05:26 PM, #28
                                   Reply How does that help against level sitting muter?, Tac, 07-Jul-17 08:25 PM, #30
                                        Reply Dude, killing muters for some classes is super easy., TMNS, 07-Jul-17 09:16 PM, #32
                                        Reply That edge list tho , Demos, 09-Jul-17 12:02 AM, #36
                                        Reply RE: Dude, killing muters for some classes is super easy..., Thaedan (Anonymous), 09-Jul-17 12:34 AM, #37
                                             Reply 1) His PK Death list was incomplete (it wasn't on origi..., TMNS, 09-Jul-17 05:25 AM, #38
                                                  Reply RE: 1) His PK Death list was incomplete (it wasn't on o..., Thaedan (Anonymous), 09-Jul-17 08:55 AM, #41
                                                       Reply That char was my first dagger spec ever., TMNS, 09-Jul-17 01:17 PM, #43
                                                       Reply Did you IMM btw? NT, TMNS, 09-Jul-17 01:17 PM, #44
                                                       Reply I fought Lorenz a lot, laxman, 09-Jul-17 05:29 PM, #45
                                        Reply Seperate post detailing muter PK strategy., TMNS, 07-Jul-17 09:26 PM, #33
                                             Reply You are confusing the issue. It isn't about killing th..., Tac, 08-Jul-17 07:25 AM, #35
                                                  Reply Set traps., TMNS, 09-Jul-17 05:27 AM, #39
                                                       Reply That is true for any given char vs char..., Tac, 09-Jul-17 08:36 AM, #40
                                                            Reply There is the simple solution to that, Beront (Anonymous), 09-Jul-17 11:57 AM, #42
Reply It's about player skill (nt), Bemused, 04-Jul-17 08:14 PM, #6
Reply Not really...it's like yeah all classes are guns..., TMNS, 05-Jul-17 01:56 AM, #7
     Reply Hey Same. Ever kill a man with a sock?, Murphy, 05-Jul-17 02:43 AM, #8
          Reply Anklet or knee socks?, Quixotic, 05-Jul-17 08:22 AM, #9
          Reply Do I have to explain every quote I make?, Murphy, 05-Jul-17 10:09 AM, #10
               Reply That's your destiny, Kstatida, 05-Jul-17 12:10 PM, #11
          Reply No but I have killed 3 people with a ####ing pencil., TMNS, 05-Jul-17 05:42 PM, #12
               Reply The same pencil?! nt, Saagkri, 05-Jul-17 08:55 PM, #16
               Reply Don't ever steal this man's car or kill his puppy. NT, Quixotic, 05-Jul-17 10:18 PM, #17
Reply It's not about outlander, Kstatida, 04-Jul-17 06:50 AM, #5
Reply No., Murphy, 04-Jul-17 12:22 AM, #4
Reply No n/t, No n/t (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 12:16 AM, #3
Reply No. N/t, laxman, 04-Jul-17 12:02 AM, #2
Reply No. n/t, Lhydia, 03-Jul-17 08:53 PM, #1
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