Tac | Thu 06-Jul-17 07:50 AM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#68508, "The OP part is actually the stealth part."
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Which is why outlander is in play. The ability to pick fights with very nearly 100% impunity even if people know you are there is what is OP. Why engage someone geared to fight you? Just look at them, see their gear, and then move along.
Camo and hide both protect classes with them in similar ways, but even assassin hide has more restrictions than duo *and* if someone can see you, they can strike. Duo stops even that. Unless there is some hidden hard counter to duo (enemy muter?) that I'm not aware of, the issue with muters is really an issue with duo being too good, or the combo of duo + chamo being too good, not because you can be both at the same time, but because you can switch between when the situation warrants, giving you zero? enemies who can both see you and do something about it directly.
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Outlander Transmuter
[View all] , Wondering (Anonymous), Mon 03-Jul-17 05:43 PM
No, he was a human/halfie cherry picker,
amazingdonnie,
05-Jul-17 06:24 PM, #13
You crazy. NT,
TMNS,
05-Jul-17 07:19 PM, #14
Not too off, though.,
Murphy,
05-Jul-17 07:28 PM, #15
I'd argue they are strongest at like 20ish, actually.,
TMNS,
06-Jul-17 06:37 PM, #21
This,
Kstatida,
06-Jul-17 06:55 AM, #18
The OP part is actually the stealth part.,
Tac,
06-Jul-17 07:50 AM #19
I was commenting on personality,
Kstatida,
06-Jul-17 12:22 PM, #20
Right, but the personality is tough to execute...,
Tac,
06-Jul-17 07:27 PM, #22
The stealth aspect is what sets assassins/transmuters a...,
TMNS,
06-Jul-17 08:30 PM, #23
Stealth is fine, but where is the duergar for muters?,
Tac,
07-Jul-17 10:40 AM, #24
So like Mark Target?,
The-me,
07-Jul-17 10:56 AM, #25
Mark assumes you've already caught them out of duo...,
Tac,
07-Jul-17 11:01 AM, #26
Aoe used to bring them out - along with the lag it bala...,
The-me,
07-Jul-17 11:16 AM, #27
Reveal/faerie fog spells did.,
Jormyr,
07-Jul-17 08:13 PM, #29
Some ideas...,
Tac,
07-Jul-17 08:31 PM, #31
This,
Kstatida,
10-Jul-17 06:41 AM, #46
A huge boon to muters was...,
Saagkri,
07-Jul-17 10:54 PM, #34
Invokers and Air forms.,
TMNS,
07-Jul-17 05:26 PM, #28
How does that help against level sitting muter?,
Tac,
07-Jul-17 08:25 PM, #30
Dude, killing muters for some classes is super easy.,
TMNS,
07-Jul-17 09:16 PM, #32
That edge list tho ,
Demos,
09-Jul-17 12:02 AM, #36
RE: Dude, killing muters for some classes is super easy...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
09-Jul-17 12:34 AM, #37
1) His PK Death list was incomplete (it wasn't on origi...,
TMNS,
09-Jul-17 05:25 AM, #38
RE: 1) His PK Death list was incomplete (it wasn't on o...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
09-Jul-17 08:55 AM, #41
That char was my first dagger spec ever.,
TMNS,
09-Jul-17 01:17 PM, #43
Did you IMM btw? NT,
TMNS,
09-Jul-17 01:17 PM, #44
I fought Lorenz a lot,
laxman,
09-Jul-17 05:29 PM, #45
Seperate post detailing muter PK strategy.,
TMNS,
07-Jul-17 09:26 PM, #33
You are confusing the issue. It isn't about killing th...,
Tac,
08-Jul-17 07:25 AM, #35
Set traps.,
TMNS,
09-Jul-17 05:27 AM, #39
That is true for any given char vs char...,
Tac,
09-Jul-17 08:36 AM, #40
There is the simple solution to that,
Beront (Anonymous),
09-Jul-17 11:57 AM, #42
It's about player skill (nt),
Bemused,
04-Jul-17 08:14 PM, #6
Not really...it's like yeah all classes are guns...,
TMNS,
05-Jul-17 01:56 AM, #7
Hey Same. Ever kill a man with a sock?,
Murphy,
05-Jul-17 02:43 AM, #8
Anklet or knee socks?,
Quixotic,
05-Jul-17 08:22 AM, #9
Do I have to explain every quote I make?,
Murphy,
05-Jul-17 10:09 AM, #10
That's your destiny,
Kstatida,
05-Jul-17 12:10 PM, #11
No but I have killed 3 people with a ####ing pencil.,
TMNS,
05-Jul-17 05:42 PM, #12
The same pencil?! nt,
Saagkri,
05-Jul-17 08:55 PM, #16
Don't ever steal this man's car or kill his puppy. NT,
Quixotic,
05-Jul-17 10:18 PM, #17
It's not about outlander,
Kstatida,
04-Jul-17 06:50 AM, #5
No.,
Murphy,
04-Jul-17 12:22 AM, #4
No n/t,
No n/t (Anonymous),
04-Jul-17 12:16 AM, #3
No. N/t,
laxman,
04-Jul-17 12:02 AM, #2
No. n/t,
Lhydia,
03-Jul-17 08:53 PM, #1
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