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EskelianTue 01-Oct-13 02:24 PM
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#51897, "RE: That kind of thought..."
Edited on Tue 01-Oct-13 02:40 PM

          

It's actually not very complicated to a reasonably intelligent person.

The reason why there haven't been "more than 1 or 2" goodie conjurers to break 100pks is that there haven't been "more than 1 or 2" goodie conjurers in the post-Neps-conjurer world who have been doing this particular trick while also being hyper-aggressive. Pamalynn is on that track, as are Cel and Zhenyen (obviously last two aren't goodies). Combined with that is the fact that LG conjurers generally have a much more limited array of targets...I can tell you that, for instance, no one has any incentive to fight Pamalynn right now given how many healers and paladins are in the Fortress. So if she gets 1 pk per day that's probably 50% of her enemy base on any given login because she's being actively avoided.

There's 30-50 people who play this game so there's going to be permutations of combos and aggression that aren't immediately available for regressive statistical analysis on a day by day basis.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make a judgement call like :

"Archon's massive defensive capabilities are balanced by weak elemental damage output."

and

"Elemental damage output is actually tremendous."

and see that A and B don't add up. See that's called critical thinking, combined with this thing called common sense.

If a paladin could spit out 1100 hp damage in 1.5 rounds, on a defensive build they'd be overpowered too. They're much less defensive than an LG conjurer with a transplendant archon, logic would say the LG conjurer should actually under-perform a shield paladin on damage output...they actually drastically outperform them. Your lethality should be inversely proportional to your survivability, with some tweaks for special circumstances.

For this archon combo to be "non-lethal enough" to warrant their defenses, they cannot be able to "two round" people solo. If within the context of a single lash, one elemental can drop 1k+ damage, that's always going to be overpowered in any reasonable sense of game balance. Paladins fall into this spectrum, they have lagging moves but they lack the ability to permalag and they cannot on their own take you from full health to zero in one lag cycle. If you're on a wimpy 50% you can always, always flee a solo paladin under normal situations (not a locked room, etc) and this *should* be the case for devil/archon conjurers as well.

  

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HOT TopicI don't usually call for nerfs but... [View all] , Eskelian, Thu 26-Sep-13 12:29 PM
Reply Think you're all missing the point., Eskelian, 29-Sep-13 10:19 PM, #12
Reply All right...but ever try to tank an LE or CE conjie in ..., highbutterfly, 29-Sep-13 10:34 PM, #14
Reply RE: All right...but ever try to tank an LE or CE conjie..., Eskelian, 29-Sep-13 11:05 PM, #15
     Reply You are right. n/t, highbutterfly, 01-Oct-13 02:00 AM, #21
Reply The edges aren't a flat +1 to your elemental. They just..., jalbrin, 30-Sep-13 08:48 PM, #16
     Reply RE: The edges aren't a flat +1 to your elemental. They ..., Eskelian, 30-Sep-13 08:59 PM, #17
          Reply You need to play more conjurers., Scrimbul, 30-Sep-13 10:56 PM, #19
               Reply You're out of your mind., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 12:56 AM, #20
Reply Wanna make a conjurer hate life?, Artificial, 28-Sep-13 11:57 AM, #5
Reply Elemental disease, Scrimbul, 28-Sep-13 07:12 PM, #8
Reply Invokers aren't the big damage class, Valkenar, 28-Sep-13 01:45 AM, #2
Reply Wait, what?, Torak, 28-Sep-13 03:53 AM, #3
Reply RE: Wait, what?, Valkenar, 28-Sep-13 06:22 AM, #4
     Reply Why would a goodie Conjie have to worry about good mobi..., Frequentplayer, 28-Sep-13 03:57 PM, #6
          Reply He is talking about the elemental's AOE attacks n/t, Perpetual_Noob, 28-Sep-13 04:59 PM, #7
               Reply Why would anyone worry about that? It can be toggled. n..., Frequentplayer, 28-Sep-13 08:42 PM, #9
                    Reply Average idiot newbies don't do that. nt, Scrimbul, 28-Sep-13 09:35 PM, #10
                         Reply Neither do non-noobs, Valkenar, 29-Sep-13 05:57 PM, #11
                              Reply Of course not. She's /Fortress/, Scrimbul, 30-Sep-13 10:46 PM, #18
Reply RE: Invokers aren't the big damage class, Eskelian, 29-Sep-13 10:22 PM, #13
Reply Just think the orc still got away. , Zephon, 26-Sep-13 01:57 PM, #1
     Reply I watched the same orc rnning and dying to a conji. Not..., Frequentplayer, 01-Oct-13 12:10 PM, #22
          Reply RE: I watched the same orc rnning and dying to a conji...., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 12:40 PM, #23
               Reply Well conjurers are pretty much always going to be a rou..., laxman, 01-Oct-13 12:46 PM, #24
                    Reply RE: Well conjurers are pretty much always going to be a..., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 01:00 PM, #25
                         Reply I thought..., Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 01:01 PM, #26
                              Reply Invokers are pretty good as well., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 01:05 PM, #27
                                   Reply Congratulations., Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 01:06 PM, #28
                                   Reply Heh, ok., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 01:08 PM, #29
                                        Reply Good one., Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 01:11 PM, #30
                                             Reply For what it's worth, Scrimbul, 01-Oct-13 04:08 PM, #39
                                                  Reply "to their face"?, Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 04:22 PM, #40
                                                  Reply He stalks all my posts., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 04:36 PM, #41
                                   Reply I think if you wanted to have a serious discussion abou..., laxman, 01-Oct-13 01:28 PM, #31
                                        Reply That kind of thought..., Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 01:35 PM, #32
                                             Reply RE: That kind of thought..., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 02:40 PM #33
                                                  Reply Oh man, sorry..., Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 02:43 PM, #34
                                                  Reply RE: Oh man, sorry..., Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 02:51 PM, #35
                                                       Reply That so?, Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 02:57 PM, #36
                                                            Reply RE: That so?, Eskelian, 01-Oct-13 03:06 PM, #37
                                                                 Reply Oh right,, Tsunami, 01-Oct-13 03:09 PM, #38
                                                  Reply Overstating it, Valkenar, 01-Oct-13 06:56 PM, #42
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