Valkenar | Sat 28-Sep-13 06:22 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#51839, "RE: Wait, what?"
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>You act as if the conjurer has a downside, when you're talking >about not even half of his ability shown in that fight.
They do have downsides. They have downtime if they want their servitors to be powerful, and sometimes they get unlucky and have weak servitors for 50 hours. They can't heal their servitors very well, so even if you can't outfight them in a straight fight you can hit and run the servitor and then the conjie is out of play for 25 realtime minutes. The biggest downside is keeping those servitors happy, which can be really hard to do. And the fact that you can't control them gives all sorts of issues. Most people say an evil conjurer should just expect to die to their own servitors some. I don't actually agree, but it gives you a sense of how not-easy-mode it is.
In this log the frost giant sentry is weak, but you can neutralize an elemental pretty effectively by hanging around strong mobs. This goodie conjurer you're worried about has a particular vulnerability there because you can make them kill goodie mobs, which should be a problem for them if it keeps happening.
>doesn't includes all the commands and abilities he gets to put >to play (like lagging you, while you're getting >dispelled/demolished)
A warrior can do a much better job of lagging you while you get demolished. If you're scared of conjie lag options I don't know what to tell you, because a conjie very weak lag and kill-sealing abilities. An archon/elemental conjie is like a paladin that way. Lots of defense, pretty good offense, but a lot of trouble nailing the kill.
>.... and not to mention they are curb >stomping one of the most deadly Orcs in the game without a >care in the world. >A competent conjurer is insanely good.... arguably more than a >necromancer
And is this not one of the deadliest conjies in the game? What's wrong with them being scary? You're looking at one lopsided log here.
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I don't usually call for nerfs but...
[View all] , Eskelian, Thu 26-Sep-13 12:29 PM
Think you're all missing the point.,
Eskelian,
29-Sep-13 10:19 PM, #12
All right...but ever try to tank an LE or CE conjie in ...,
highbutterfly,
29-Sep-13 10:34 PM, #14
RE: All right...but ever try to tank an LE or CE conjie...,
Eskelian,
29-Sep-13 11:05 PM, #15
You are right. n/t,
highbutterfly,
01-Oct-13 02:00 AM, #21
The edges aren't a flat +1 to your elemental. They just...,
jalbrin,
30-Sep-13 08:48 PM, #16
RE: The edges aren't a flat +1 to your elemental. They ...,
Eskelian,
30-Sep-13 08:59 PM, #17
You need to play more conjurers.,
Scrimbul,
30-Sep-13 10:56 PM, #19
You're out of your mind.,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 12:56 AM, #20
Wanna make a conjurer hate life?,
Artificial,
28-Sep-13 11:57 AM, #5
Elemental disease,
Scrimbul,
28-Sep-13 07:12 PM, #8
Invokers aren't the big damage class,
Valkenar,
28-Sep-13 01:45 AM, #2
Wait, what?,
Torak,
28-Sep-13 03:53 AM, #3
RE: Wait, what?,
Valkenar,
28-Sep-13 06:22 AM #4
Why would a goodie Conjie have to worry about good mobi...,
Frequentplayer,
28-Sep-13 03:57 PM, #6
He is talking about the elemental's AOE attacks n/t,
Perpetual_Noob,
28-Sep-13 04:59 PM, #7
Why would anyone worry about that? It can be toggled. n...,
Frequentplayer,
28-Sep-13 08:42 PM, #9
Average idiot newbies don't do that. nt,
Scrimbul,
28-Sep-13 09:35 PM, #10
Neither do non-noobs,
Valkenar,
29-Sep-13 05:57 PM, #11
Of course not. She's /Fortress/,
Scrimbul,
30-Sep-13 10:46 PM, #18
RE: Invokers aren't the big damage class,
Eskelian,
29-Sep-13 10:22 PM, #13
Just think the orc still got away. ,
Zephon,
26-Sep-13 01:57 PM, #1
I watched the same orc rnning and dying to a conji. Not...,
Frequentplayer,
01-Oct-13 12:10 PM, #22
RE: I watched the same orc rnning and dying to a conji....,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 12:40 PM, #23
Well conjurers are pretty much always going to be a rou...,
laxman,
01-Oct-13 12:46 PM, #24
RE: Well conjurers are pretty much always going to be a...,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 01:00 PM, #25
I thought...,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 01:01 PM, #26
Invokers are pretty good as well.,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 01:05 PM, #27
Congratulations.,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 01:06 PM, #28
Heh, ok.,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 01:08 PM, #29
Good one.,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 01:11 PM, #30
For what it's worth,
Scrimbul,
01-Oct-13 04:08 PM, #39
"to their face"?,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 04:22 PM, #40
He stalks all my posts.,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 04:36 PM, #41
I think if you wanted to have a serious discussion abou...,
laxman,
01-Oct-13 01:28 PM, #31
That kind of thought...,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 01:35 PM, #32
RE: That kind of thought...,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 02:40 PM, #33
Oh man, sorry...,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 02:43 PM, #34
RE: Oh man, sorry...,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 02:51 PM, #35
That so?,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 02:57 PM, #36
RE: That so?,
Eskelian,
01-Oct-13 03:06 PM, #37
Oh right,,
Tsunami,
01-Oct-13 03:09 PM, #38
Overstating it,
Valkenar,
01-Oct-13 06:56 PM, #42
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