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HomardThu 14-Jun-12 02:49 PM
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#45870, "Seriously?"


          

I think you're missing a few key notions at work here.

1. You have a lot of ranger experience, more than 90% of the MUD, probably. When you have that sort of experience, you become aware of the class's weaknesses and know how to exploit them. It makes total sense that you were able to take an assassin and kill a bunch of rangers. You know how they work.

2. You're giving assassins way too much credit. In skilled hands an assassin can be extremely dangerous. For someone who is new to the class through someone who is average with the class they will lose against any skilled player playing any class much of the time. Obviously lowbie assassin against lowbie invoker goes to the assassin, but by the time you're at hero any skilled player should be able to crush most assassins.

3. Mark of the Prey is an awesome skill, but you seem to be neglecting a couple of important limitations it has. You can't stalk your mark, so that entire avenue of your arsenal is out of the question. Secondly, if you're marking someone that means you're not using another command. Most of the time for assassin v. ranger that means you're in civilization. If you're marking him you're not tripping him, which may (depending on how far you are from the woods) be the wisest course of action. By marking him you're basically expecting the fight to go into the woods where the ranger (despite what you say) has the advantage. Now, if you're marking in combat you're giving up a lagging move, a damage move or a malediction to land that mark. Anyone who's played a few assassins will tell you that often times one command is the difference between winning and losing a fight, so that's big.

  

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HOT Topic(EDITED) Re: Mark of the Prey. Could we discuss changin... [View all] , Alston, Thu 14-Jun-12 10:26 AM
Reply One change i would love to see with mark, Iklahn (Anonymous), 14-Jun-12 06:33 PM, #46
Reply Sold. Done. (n/t), Daevryn, 14-Jun-12 06:58 PM, #48
     Reply Dude, the assassin died. Was the Mark that god-awful po..., Quixotic, 14-Jun-12 07:31 PM, #50
     Reply Lesser Troll. n/t, Alston, 14-Jun-12 07:35 PM, #51
     Reply Per Ray, he is stoned out of his gourd. I advocate clea..., Quixotic, 14-Jun-12 09:01 PM, #54
          Reply Here is my line of thinking, Iklahn (Anonymous), 15-Jun-12 05:15 AM, #55
               Reply Sure, Quixotic, 15-Jun-12 06:23 AM, #56
                    Reply Just like people are telling me that a ranger needs to ..., Alston, 15-Jun-12 08:38 AM, #57
                    Reply RE:adaptation, Quixotic, 15-Jun-12 10:48 AM, #58
                         Reply Not all ranger can do the things you sited. Most can't ..., Alston, 16-Jun-12 09:14 AM, #63
                              Reply RE: Not all ranger can do the things you sited. Most ca..., Daevryn, 16-Jun-12 09:57 AM, #64
                                   Reply I'm just pointing out that not all rangers have the ski..., Alston, 16-Jun-12 03:52 PM, #67
                                        Reply RE: I'm just pointing out that not all rangers have the..., Daevryn, 16-Jun-12 07:38 PM, #68
                                             Reply What I am pointing out is that MotP cancels out the ran..., Alston, 16-Jun-12 09:15 PM, #69
                    Reply Its not that cut and dry, Iklahn (Anonymous), 15-Jun-12 04:42 PM, #59
                         Reply As a nexus ranger going against battle, you have it the..., Quixotic, 15-Jun-12 09:59 PM, #61
     Reply RE: Dude, the assassin died. Was the Mark that god-awfu..., Daevryn, 15-Jun-12 09:43 PM, #60
          Reply RE: logic, Quixotic, 15-Jun-12 10:04 PM, #62
          Reply RE: Dude, the assassin died. Was the Mark that god-awfu..., Marcus_, 16-Jun-12 10:00 AM, #65
               Reply RE: Dude, the assassin died. Was the Mark that god-awfu..., Daevryn, 16-Jun-12 10:23 AM, #66
               Reply Assassin Magic, Tsunami, 17-Jun-12 12:30 PM, #70
     Reply What about ambush if the assassin is blinded? , Alston, 14-Jun-12 08:14 PM, #52
     Reply Thank you kindly good sir. NT, Iklahn (Anonymous), 14-Jun-12 08:41 PM, #53
Reply RE: (EDITED) Re: Mark of the Prey. Could we discuss cha..., Daevryn, 14-Jun-12 01:52 PM, #10
Reply I do see it. And I think it's over powered for an alrea..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:37 PM, #17
     Reply Shamans, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 02:40 PM, #18
     Reply I don't fight shamans with any character. :) Run away! ..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:44 PM, #20
          Reply Yeah, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 02:51 PM, #24
     Reply Seriously?, Homard, 14-Jun-12 02:49 PM #21
     Reply I assume every assassin I fail to dirt kick has marked ..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 03:28 PM, #27
          Reply Don't dirt kick., Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 03:34 PM, #28
          Reply Yes dirt kick., Alston, 14-Jun-12 03:57 PM, #30
               Reply Well, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 04:37 PM, #33
                    Reply Return to what?, Alston, 14-Jun-12 04:48 PM, #36
                         Reply After, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 05:10 PM, #40
                              Reply I'll give you time to think about this. :) n/t, Alston, 14-Jun-12 05:19 PM, #42
                                   Reply Ah, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 05:25 PM, #43
          Reply You assume a lot., Homard, 14-Jun-12 04:16 PM, #32
               Reply Gee I wonder why?, Alston, 14-Jun-12 04:39 PM, #34
                    Reply Again, you assume., Homard, 14-Jun-12 04:44 PM, #35
                         Reply I never said it's an I win. I said it's an I quit. Also, Alston, 14-Jun-12 04:56 PM, #38
                              Reply Incorrect., Homard, 14-Jun-12 05:13 PM, #41
     Reply Here I think is the disconnect:, Daevryn, 14-Jun-12 04:03 PM, #31
     Reply Hold that thought. I want to find something for you. b..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 04:50 PM, #37
          Reply Well I can't remember the character, but Ambush is not ..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 05:00 PM, #39
               Reply RE: Well I can't remember the character, but Ambush is ..., Daevryn, 14-Jun-12 05:55 PM, #45
     Reply Having played a few rangers..., Balta, 14-Jun-12 05:47 PM, #44
Reply RE: (EDITED) Re: Mark of the Prey. Could we discuss cha..., Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 11:19 AM, #1
     Reply To your points., Alston, 14-Jun-12 11:36 AM, #2
          Reply If the assassin had no chance ..., Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 11:58 AM, #3
               Reply My suggestions do not give an assassin no chance., Alston, 14-Jun-12 12:29 PM, #4
                    Reply Average players, Tac, 14-Jun-12 01:18 PM, #5
                    Reply You troll., Alston, 14-Jun-12 01:27 PM, #6
                         Reply You lost to an assassin in the woods with your ranger....., Tac, 14-Jun-12 01:51 PM, #9
                              Reply RE: You lost to an assassin in the woods with your rang..., Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 01:59 PM, #11
                              Reply Talking rangers is fun...., Tac, 14-Jun-12 02:21 PM, #12
                              Reply Thank you for pointing out the weakness of rangers make..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:23 PM, #14
                              Reply I think the solution is to play evil , Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 02:51 PM, #23
                              Reply Two things. Look at the PBFs Ranger's vs Assassins and...., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:24 PM, #15
                                   Reply PK Stats, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 02:36 PM, #16
                                        Reply So what you are saying is Assassins come out on top and..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:43 PM, #19
                                             Reply No..., Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 02:50 PM, #22
                                                  Reply I'm not sure how you are doing it but see what the numb..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 03:04 PM, #25
                                                       Reply Sure, Tsunami, 14-Jun-12 03:25 PM, #26
                                                            Reply I'm was hoping for over all, but thanks and..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 03:35 PM, #29
                              Reply You don't get it. You didn't read what I wrote., Alston, 14-Jun-12 02:21 PM, #13
                    Reply And what advice ..., Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 01:36 PM, #7
                         Reply Assassins are at the very least equal to any ranger in ..., Alston, 14-Jun-12 01:50 PM, #8
                         Reply After you deleted an animist that had third attack..., TMNS, 14-Jun-12 06:57 PM, #47
                              Reply Animists need the option to go evil :) n/t, Malakhi, 14-Jun-12 07:27 PM, #49
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