Valkenar | Fri 30-Dec-11 03:07 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#42253, "Please don't give up on CF"
Edited on Fri 30-Dec-11 03:08 PM
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I haven't been playing for the past couple months, for my own reasons, but do keep weighing a return. I didn't want to post during this time, but I feel kind of compelled.
>-- I don't think we could ever have a Shadow cabal seriously >again because people talk in a way they didn't 16 years ago, >and maybe wands are at that point too and I'm just refusing to >recognize it.
I think you're right about the fact that people will talk about things like the Shadow cabal, and wands. But one thing to think about is: was it ever really like you imagined it? You see players looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses all the time (here in this very thread, in fact). Maybe there has always been a certain amount of OOC contact and the Shadow cabal existed in spite of it, as did the wands, as did hell. Players may have gotten less honorable, if you want to call it that, but maybe it's just a matter of degree.
Maybe the rest of us can have fun in spite of those people.
>But if that's the case, at this point in my life, I'm as >inclined as anything to flip the big switch and just say:
I'm sorry to hear that. You deserve to feel better about the work you've put in, because despite all the crap you have created a lot of entertainment for a lot of people. And the things you do are still appreciated. I hope that you'll find the energy to care again, because you are an important part of this game, and the silent majority
>"This is a game that had a good run in its time, but it's over >now." ...threat or anything of the kind. It's just the way I'd be >feeling right about now if I actually was the evil dictator of >CF I'm sometimes made out to be.
I don't know to what extent you do feel that way or not, based on what you've said, but I'll pretend you do.
The question is: why? Even if we suppose CF has to give up on some of that secrecy element, is it really not worth anything without it? You might say that CF just isn't CF without that part, but I think it is. Games change over time, and CF has changed a lot in 17 years, mostly for the better. Maybe CF can't be the CF you knew even ten years ago, but it can still be a great game.
To all the implementors: What would you do if this were Josiah or Krikov? You would just treat it like what it is, a couple of bad players who want to hurt the game. I know it hurts to have a lot of hard work crapped on like this, but if you zap all the preps, take the game down, or do anything else that really harms the gameplay dynamic, then you're basically just letting a few a-holes ruin the game for everyone else. They're trying to emotionally hijack you and get you to screw things up out of frustration. Please don't let them.
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Wand lists, etc.
[View all] , tongni12, Tue 03-Jan-12 03:22 PM
A suggestion,
Krathreal,
04-Jan-12 02:54 AM, #138
Don't worry...,
Jhyrbian,
03-Jan-12 02:56 AM, #136
RE: Don't worry...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:59 AM, #144
Don't worry...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 07:54 PM, #100
Rolling a rager. nt,
Artificial,
29-Dec-11 07:58 PM, #2
Right on lets do dis #### nt,
Runaktla,
31-Dec-11 10:07 PM, #107
Ah, the Napalm strategy.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:59 PM, #3
I'm not joking...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #4
On the contrary, it's a win/win,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:07 PM, #6
I love you, so please don't take this as argumentative.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:11 PM, #7
RE: I love you, so please don't take this as argumentat...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:36 PM, #13
Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the dis...,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:53 PM, #16
RE: Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 09:01 PM, #17
Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I pro...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:04 AM, #35
RE: Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I...,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:47 AM, #42
Forgive me. I was drunk last night. Thank god I didn'...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:21 PM, #78
I like this idea,
Elerosse,
29-Dec-11 08:24 PM, #10
Depends:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:40 PM, #14
RE: Depends:,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:19 AM, #28
And you say we players are emotional.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:09 AM, #36
Its like the doomsday switch,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:36 PM, #101
Best. Santa Zulg. Ever.,
Scrimbul,
29-Dec-11 11:15 PM, #24
Yep,
AXera,
29-Dec-11 11:53 PM, #26
This is assuming a LOT.,
Tesline,
04-Jan-12 01:42 PM, #139
How is this any better than just making the prep knowle...,
Gaplemo,
29-Dec-11 11:41 PM, #25
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:18 AM, #27
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 12:49 AM, #29
Of course,
Gaplemo,
30-Dec-11 01:21 AM, #32
Why not just stop all the secrecy then?,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:37 PM, #102
That's naive,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:08 AM, #110
Of course.,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:54 AM, #120
RE: Of course.,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:03 PM, #133
It's about damn time,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 05:01 AM, #34
I like this idea IF.... You leave the store bought prep...,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #45
RE: I'm not joking...,
The Heretic,
30-Dec-11 04:08 PM, #91
Longer fights,
Lightmage,
02-Jan-12 11:44 AM, #130
Please see my newbie boosts on Gameplay,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:28 PM, #135
Please remove preps for a week or two.,
Void,
25-Jan-12 09:44 PM, #140
RE: I'm not joking...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:48 AM, #142
It doesn't sound like a horrible idea.,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 08:15 PM, #8
DO IT,
Gaspar,
29-Dec-11 08:17 PM, #9
I like that people race for it,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:48 PM, #131
Hahaha!,
Conundrum,
29-Dec-11 10:31 PM, #22
Please come back. We miss you Panda.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:10 AM, #37
Please don't punish us for a few jerks :(,
highbutterfly,
30-Dec-11 03:55 AM, #33
I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 07:19 AM, #39
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 09:16 AM, #41
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 09:50 AM, #43
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:51 AM, #44
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 10:31 AM, #52
Actually, I'm not sarcastic. ,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:49 AM, #55
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 01:12 PM, #77
What about strengthening detect artifact?,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 04:03 PM, #90
Add more wand locations and the advantage of having a w...,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #49
Horrible idea,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 01:40 PM, #84
I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Amberion,
30-Dec-11 10:48 AM, #54
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 10:57 AM, #57
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 12:04 PM, #70
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Kamuela_,
31-Dec-11 08:41 PM, #104
As someone who likes to play elves and dark elves,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:52 PM, #132
Umm,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:17 PM, #134
RE: Umm,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 05:11 AM, #145
I endorse this solution.,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:44 AM, #141
Wow, this whole thing really got out of hand.,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
30-Dec-11 07:02 PM, #97
The only time people complain about sleeks ...,
Bell,
30-Dec-11 04:58 PM, #93
More solutions,
Anghwyr,
30-Dec-11 04:25 PM, #92
Another solution,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 01:32 PM, #81
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #60
Ok, I'll bite.,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 11:43 AM, #68
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:00 PM, #76
No, but I remember them,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 01:28 PM, #80
RE: No, but I remember them,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:41 PM, #85
Both those were clouds I thought.,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:04 PM, #96
RE: Both those were clouds I thought.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:24 PM, #99
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #137
It has been a great run.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:08 PM, #71
Hah CF on Ebay!,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 12:10 PM, #72
I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:20 PM, #73
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:24 PM, #74
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:24 PM, #79
I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:00 PM, #95
RE: I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #98
#### a college fund, Zulg needs beer money :),
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:33 PM, #82
RE: Hah CF on Ebay!,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 01:59 PM, #86
Please don't give up on CF,
Valkenar,
30-Dec-11 03:08 PM #89
I think your premise is wrong...,
Tac,
30-Dec-11 05:03 PM, #94
Not to sound like a jerk but....,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:53 AM, #143
my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #50
Thumbs up from me,
Jad_Hoven,
30-Dec-11 10:47 AM, #53
Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 10:56 AM, #56
RE: Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:20 AM, #64
With the illusionary change,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:22 AM, #65
RE: With the illusionary change,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:26 AM, #67
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #58
So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:01 AM, #59
RE: So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:11 AM, #61
I can only think of a few items,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:19 AM, #63
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Knac,
30-Dec-11 11:15 AM, #62
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:25 AM, #66
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #69
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 12:43 PM, #75
I agree with Malakhi.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:39 PM, #83
Don't like this.,
fist-law,
31-Dec-11 06:15 PM, #103
RE: Don't like this.,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-11 09:12 PM, #105
I say quit ####ing around and go for it. Threats and th...,
Lhydia,
31-Dec-11 09:17 PM, #106
That doesn't change the fact,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:06 AM, #111
Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen and...,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 10:44 AM, #112
RE: Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen...,
Rayihn,
01-Jan-12 11:06 AM, #113
You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 11:53 AM, #114
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Daevryn,
01-Jan-12 12:23 PM, #115
That makes sense on all counts. ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 12:35 PM, #116
Listen to your condescending comments,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:07 AM, #123
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
N b M,
01-Jan-12 08:14 PM, #118
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Isildur,
02-Jan-12 12:25 AM, #119
Man you have an ego the size of a battleship Jalim,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:06 AM, #122
You are getting your worlds mixed up again. ,
Lhydia,
02-Jan-12 10:11 AM, #127
Except nobody is selling anything...,
Twist,
02-Jan-12 10:16 AM, #128
There you go again Twist, saying it better than me,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 10:48 AM, #129
~~ n/t,
Alston,
02-Jan-12 04:29 AM, #124
RE: Don't like this.,
Isildur,
01-Jan-12 12:07 AM, #108
Twist threw out his back. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jan-12 12:23 AM, #109
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
01-Jan-12 07:38 PM, #117
RE: Don't like this.,
fist-law,
02-Jan-12 04:33 AM, #125
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
02-Jan-12 04:55 AM, #126
I like this solution,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 03:04 PM, #88
ZULG: Please remember that we all love this game.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:16 AM, #48
Well said,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #51
I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:13 AM, #47
RE: I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 02:46 PM, #87
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Ghuljun,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #46
is anyone else annoyed,
laxman,
30-Dec-11 09:05 AM, #40
I've changed my view a bit,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:11 AM, #30
One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
Puhguly,
29-Dec-11 09:55 PM, #20
RE: One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 10:34 PM, #23
I like to think I've competed,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:12 AM, #31
Not intended as a jab,
Puhguly,
30-Dec-11 05:32 AM, #38
My thoughts...,
Not An Imm,
29-Dec-11 09:25 PM, #19
I'm with this guy. Less lottery?,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 10:00 PM, #21
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:31 PM, #11
I'm really glad you started this thread.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:51 PM, #1
There isn't a problem,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #5
RE: I'm really glad you started this thread.,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:33 PM, #12
I can jive with your explanation.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:43 PM, #15
People see what they want to see:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #18
This is a great great post!,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:56 AM, #121
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