Isildur | Sat 09-Dec-06 06:57 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#783, "RE: Psst. They are."
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>The system needs reform, but the likely direction it will go >is towards allowing large numbers of people in legally, >pending minimal checks for criminal backgrounds and such. It >worked wonders for us a century ago, even over the protests of >people who thought "inferior" Irish, Polish, Jewish, Italian, >etc. immigrants would ruin their country.
To play devil's advocate for a moment, one important difference between today's situation and that of 100 years ago is the level of entitlements available to the poor. In 1900, letting in a ton of people didn't "cost" as much. Immigrants were allowed to live in relative squalor in ethnic ghettos, providing cheap labor without receiving much in return. Contrast that with today. Our system of entitlements relies on a certain distribution of incomes, with those at the top funding programs that benefit those at the bottom. If the country becomes too "bottom heavy" then the current system will eventually become impossible to sustain.
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Vote. nt
[View all] , Nivek1, Tue 07-Nov-06 05:23 PM
Thread locked due to bloat.,
Valguarnera,
13-Dec-06 03:14 PM, #94
No. Why? Its pointless. n/t,
Eskelian,
11-Nov-06 10:44 AM, #24
That's the exact reason your party won't ever gain any ...,
DurNominator,
11-Nov-06 11:32 AM, #25
Since when do I have a party?,
Eskelian,
12-Nov-06 10:57 PM, #26
RE: Since when do I have a party?,
DurNominator,
13-Nov-06 06:50 AM, #28
Grats to Democrats for their victory.,
DurNominator,
10-Nov-06 02:08 PM, #17
Honestly, it was a beating my party needed.,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:52 PM, #20
RE: Yep.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #39
Macaca! n/t,
Grurk Muouk,
08-Nov-06 10:05 AM, #12
Yup.,
Valguarnera,
08-Nov-06 11:26 AM, #13
Thank god the Liberal media was there to make it known ...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:45 PM, #18
Well, it's a real issue.,
Valguarnera,
10-Nov-06 05:30 PM, #22
While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Eskelian,
12-Nov-06 11:01 PM, #27
RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Valguarnera,
13-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #29
RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Tac,
13-Nov-06 12:47 PM, #30
I did!,
Valguarnera,
08-Nov-06 09:31 AM, #11
How is it you just can't see the reality of this?,
(NOT Pro),
17-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #31
RE: How is it you just can't see the reality of this?,
Daevryn,
17-Nov-06 02:49 AM, #32
Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
17-Nov-06 11:48 AM, #33
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
17-Nov-06 12:00 PM, #34
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
17-Nov-06 01:25 PM, #35
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
17-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #36
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 02:47 AM, #37
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 02:58 PM, #43
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:41 PM, #47
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 11:43 PM, #52
Herein we have the reason I call people traitors.,
(NOT Pro),
21-Nov-06 01:52 AM, #53
I love America,
Tac,
21-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #55
Not only are you wrong you are correct.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:30 PM, #82
Since you lack the ability...,
Tac,
10-Dec-06 08:25 PM, #87
RE: Not only are you wrong you are correct.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:35 PM, #89
Along those lines:,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #91
RE: Herein we have the reason I call people traitors.,
Isildur,
21-Nov-06 11:24 AM, #57
Past changes.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:33 PM, #83
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 03:04 AM, #38
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
20-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #40
Where in lies your misconception of me.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 12:08 PM, #41
You poor, poor thing,
Aodh,
20-Nov-06 02:09 PM, #42
I don't think you understand the debate.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:53 PM, #50
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 03:19 PM, #44
Abramoff et al...,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:52 PM, #49
RE: Abramoff et al...,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 11:39 PM, #51
None of the Republicans up for reelection took a hard l...,
(NOT Pro),
21-Nov-06 01:54 AM, #54
RE: None of the Republicans up for reelection took a ha...,
Isildur,
21-Nov-06 11:17 AM, #56
Colorado is a Democratic State.,
(NOT Pro),
27-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #59
What are you even basing that on?,
Daevryn,
27-Nov-06 03:47 AM, #60
He's disconnected from reality.,
Valguarnera,
27-Nov-06 10:14 AM, #61
This conversation reminds me of work...,
Wilhath,
27-Nov-06 06:54 PM, #64
So...you're trying to insinuate I'm not Zeus?,
Eskelian,
28-Nov-06 02:46 AM, #65
I based it off my memory, then I checked the official.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:07 PM, #75
RE: Colorado is a Democratic State.,
Isildur,
27-Nov-06 10:50 AM, #62
More Colorado facts!,
Valguarnera,
27-Nov-06 11:11 AM, #63
Wherein liberals don't get it.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:10 PM, #76
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Daevryn,
10-Dec-06 05:33 PM, #84
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #93
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 07:11 PM, #85
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:45 PM, #90
Some numbers to crunch:,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 09:30 PM, #92
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-06 04:00 PM, #45
Relative to...,
Valguarnera,
20-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #46
Correction.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:46 PM, #48
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
DurNominator,
22-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #58
I won't speak for Pro, but....,
Pendragon_Surtr,
08-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #66
RE: I won't speak for Pro, but....,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 10:01 AM, #67
So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the borders,
Pendragon_Surtr,
09-Dec-06 03:36 PM, #68
Psst. They are.,
Valguarnera,
09-Dec-06 04:37 PM, #69
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 06:57 PM #71
RE: Psst. They are.,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 10:00 AM, #73
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 11:41 AM, #74
Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here legal...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:18 PM, #79
RE: Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here l...,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:29 PM, #88
RE: Psst. They are.,
Pendragon_Surtr,
09-Dec-06 08:16 PM, #72
A huge contributor to the problem of "Jobs we don't wan...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:27 PM, #81
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #86
These peopl are invaders.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:16 PM, #78
RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord...,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 06:49 PM, #70
RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:24 PM, #80
We don't want or need everyone to come here.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #77
Vote third party. nt,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #1
From my conservative standpoint...,
Nivek1,
07-Nov-06 06:16 PM, #2
From my intelligent viewpoint, some shouldn't vote....,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 06:38 PM, #3
I choose not to vote... and I'll tell you why...,
Saith,
07-Nov-06 06:44 PM, #4
You have a good point,
Drag0nSt0rm,
07-Nov-06 06:59 PM, #5
Is bad point,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #7
One thing that makes me laugh, but cry inside at the sa...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #21
I've been there...,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 07:03 PM, #6
RE: I've been there...,
Saith,
08-Nov-06 12:51 AM, #8
How sad,
DurNominator,
08-Nov-06 04:14 AM, #9
You'll get no argument from me...,
Tac,
08-Nov-06 09:14 AM, #10
RE: How sad,
Rho,
09-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #16
So...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:49 PM, #19
Your going to elect only one president,
DurNominator,
11-Nov-06 12:49 AM, #23
here's where you're wrong,
Isildur,
08-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #14
Good idea... didn't think about that...nt,
Saith,
08-Nov-06 09:36 PM, #15
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