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Tjok. (Guest)Tue 08-Feb-05 06:27 PM

  
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>What were Tjoks motivations for killing paladins?
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OK. I specifically remember attacking your paladin. Why? Because it's one of the few times I did it.

I don't have the greatest answer for you, though, because my motivations toward paladins were constantly "evolving." I started out by picking a sphere (Destruction) that I knew would give me latitude to actively kill paladins (I wanted to fight Lariya), but then I got tapped for Harbinger, and I toned that down to represent the "Goals" of the cabal, especially Balance. On the other hand, there are three paths in the cabal, and for the majority of the time I was playing, I was the only cabal "leader." So I sort of felt this pressure to "represent" all three paths to some degree. Also, for a long period of time, the "Tenets" (written rules in the cabal HQ) were ambiguous on various points - they've since been clarified (Go Amaranthe).

It was difficult to work it out, but the long and short of it was, at that point in time (somewhat early on I think) I didn't actively hunt dwarves, duergar, paladins, and thieves unless they were targets of opportunity and there was another Outlander around that it would be important to "show it was OK to hunt these people." Your paladin happened to come along as a target of opportunity in that situation. It sounds kind of harsh - but I only sac'd your coins! It wasn't the ideal move on my part; it was probably a bad compromise. As time passed, I became more secure with my decision-making and Tjok's role, and was able to stay firmly rooted in "Balance". At that point, I generally wouldn't even attack "targets of opportunity" unless I had some strong suspicion that they stood in the way of "Thar-Eris". I had the ability to detect order, so that helped, as well.

I'm not sure if that answers your question. In summary, mid-late "life," I'd avoid attacking "targets of opportunity" unless I had some strong suspicion that they stood in the way of Thar-Eris. Early on, I'd generally not actively hunt them, but would if they were "targets of opportunity" and Outlanders that potentially would hunt them were present. And basically it's possible to be an Outlander that attacks paladins regularly (with limitations - you have to keep cabal goals in mind) or one that doesn't.

  

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