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#35055, "Good question!"
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>What were Tjoks motivations for killing paladins? >
OK. I specifically remember attacking your paladin. Why? Because it's one of the few times I did it.
I don't have the greatest answer for you, though, because my motivations toward paladins were constantly "evolving." I started out by picking a sphere (Destruction) that I knew would give me latitude to actively kill paladins (I wanted to fight Lariya), but then I got tapped for Harbinger, and I toned that down to represent the "Goals" of the cabal, especially Balance. On the other hand, there are three paths in the cabal, and for the majority of the time I was playing, I was the only cabal "leader." So I sort of felt this pressure to "represent" all three paths to some degree. Also, for a long period of time, the "Tenets" (written rules in the cabal HQ) were ambiguous on various points - they've since been clarified (Go Amaranthe).
It was difficult to work it out, but the long and short of it was, at that point in time (somewhat early on I think) I didn't actively hunt dwarves, duergar, paladins, and thieves unless they were targets of opportunity and there was another Outlander around that it would be important to "show it was OK to hunt these people." Your paladin happened to come along as a target of opportunity in that situation. It sounds kind of harsh - but I only sac'd your coins! It wasn't the ideal move on my part; it was probably a bad compromise. As time passed, I became more secure with my decision-making and Tjok's role, and was able to stay firmly rooted in "Balance". At that point, I generally wouldn't even attack "targets of opportunity" unless I had some strong suspicion that they stood in the way of "Thar-Eris". I had the ability to detect order, so that helped, as well.
I'm not sure if that answers your question. In summary, mid-late "life," I'd avoid attacking "targets of opportunity" unless I had some strong suspicion that they stood in the way of Thar-Eris. Early on, I'd generally not actively hunt them, but would if they were "targets of opportunity" and Outlanders that potentially would hunt them were present. And basically it's possible to be an Outlander that attacks paladins regularly (with limitations - you have to keep cabal goals in mind) or one that doesn't.
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(AGE DEATH) [OUTLANDER] Tjok Bjorn-Kjr the Venerable Ti...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Sat 12-Feb-05 07:58 PM
Anonymous benefactors and PBF:,
Tjok. (Guest),
19-Feb-05 12:53 PM, #72
No problem.,
Alarian,
21-Feb-05 02:41 PM, #73
Check your email (n/t),
Ehlynn (Guest),
16-Feb-05 01:41 PM, #71
Jesus 919 Hours?,
Desmonn Kinnt (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:31 PM, #33
Re: Desmonn. Ohhhh yeah.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:26 PM, #40
Going to make a stab at Goodbyes.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:26 PM, #16
Re: SCION and some FORTRESS:,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:32 PM, #17
You coulda fooled me.,
Restraal (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:27 PM, #41
"Chilly",
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:40 PM, #42
RE: Flat-out liked Restraal,
Restraal (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:51 PM, #46
Err.. I wasn't Agorinth.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:58 PM, #49
Crap! nt,
Restraal (Guest),
08-Feb-05 11:08 PM, #50
The past.,
The Forsaken (Guest),
08-Feb-05 11:41 PM, #51
Have to pay my respects,
Granaak,
09-Feb-05 09:42 AM, #57
Well done,
Akscereh (Guest),
09-Feb-05 06:26 PM, #65
OUTLANDER!,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:36 PM, #18
RE: OUTLANDER!,
Amaranthe,
08-Feb-05 08:40 PM, #36
I got it, and thanks!,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:43 PM, #44
RE: OUTLANDER!,
Parantl (Guest),
08-Feb-05 08:59 PM, #37
Hey, Parantl:,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:49 PM, #45
Well.,
Thays. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 09:57 PM, #38
Hey, Thays:,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:53 PM, #47
I must say, about you and my name,
Reggie (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:24 PM, #39
Hey,
Karrel (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:41 PM, #43
Always a great inspiration,
PsyrelGaller (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:55 PM, #48
You will be missed, and I am sorry I havent been able t...,
Viviarong (Guest),
09-Feb-05 05:28 AM, #54
Farewell Elder!,
Aesrira (Guest),
09-Feb-05 09:22 AM, #56
Goodbye Attempt,
Krystia (Guest),
09-Feb-05 12:36 PM, #58
About time...,
Marcus_,
27-Feb-05 06:00 PM, #74
Well Im upset! Haha, incredible. Sorry about bailing, H...,
Gabrit (Guest),
15-Mar-05 03:45 PM, #76
Hey man,
Mek (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:39 PM, #19
TRIBUNAL,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:40 PM, #20
reagarding your snares,
incognito,
08-Feb-05 06:29 PM, #25
Hmm. This is bad.,
Tjok. (Guest),
09-Feb-05 12:49 PM, #59
I was usually on about 100hp by the time I could do som...,
incognito,
09-Feb-05 01:02 PM, #60
Good job!,
Onirakoth,
08-Feb-05 07:07 PM, #30
Thanks.,
Vargblot (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:27 PM, #32
Yeah... you're right,
Melacarfina (Guest),
09-Feb-05 08:54 AM, #55
He would have waylaid, not ambushed,
incognito,
09-Feb-05 01:14 PM, #61
RE: TRIBUNAL,
Friblet (Guest),
09-Feb-05 02:21 PM, #63
So long guvna!,
Klendalstak (Guest),
09-Feb-05 09:10 PM, #67
God you suck.,
Carubahdeh (Guest),
11-Feb-05 03:17 PM, #70
Smooth char. Wondering your definition of initiative? (...,
Kaplanov (Guest),
09-Feb-05 09:14 PM, #68
RE: TRIBUNAL,
Tolchec (Guest),
27-Feb-05 07:20 PM, #75
EMPIRE (Vladamir may want to read):,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:47 PM, #21
*shrugs*,
Ceie (Guest),
09-Feb-05 01:23 PM, #62
Nothign but good memories,
kas,
08-Feb-05 05:52 PM, #22
Quick question on motivations against paladins.,
Der_exal (Guest),
08-Feb-05 06:03 PM, #23
Good question!,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 06:27 PM #24
RE: Going to make a stab at Goodbyes.,
Djesoe. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:36 PM, #34
North-Wind Guide Tjok's Old-Ass Blade!,
Valguarnera,
08-Feb-05 07:38 PM, #35
Tjok, please be sure to do this. (n/t),
UnbornOutlander (Guest),
09-Feb-05 02:48 AM, #52
Here you go, I have no idea why I stayed.,
Traba1 (Guest),
09-Feb-05 04:17 AM, #53
Ah man! The log cut off!,
Tjok. (Guest),
09-Feb-05 07:55 PM, #66
Bleh, not a single good bye for me huh?,
Iborenn (Guest),
09-Feb-05 04:02 PM, #64
Awesome.,
Reiginsei,
10-Feb-05 11:37 AM, #69
Wow. I thought you would imm before anything else.,
Carubahdeh (Guest),
08-Feb-05 05:15 PM, #15
Yeah, well.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:11 PM, #31
RE: (AGE DEATH) [OUTLANDER] Tjok Bjorn-Kjr the Venerabl...,
Ehlynn (Guest),
08-Feb-05 12:09 PM, #13
Will be missed,
Arisnus (Guest),
08-Feb-05 11:11 AM, #12
Damn.,
Brulgbabauth (Guest),
08-Feb-05 10:07 AM, #11
RE: (AGE DEATH) [OUTLANDER] Tjok Bjorn-Kjr the Venerabl...,
Alynana,
08-Feb-05 09:47 AM, #10
Simply....wow.,
Restraal (Guest),
08-Feb-05 09:29 AM, #9
DAMN YOU TJOK! :),
Jhuyzi (Guest),
08-Feb-05 08:46 AM, #7
Rage-Blood Fill Tjok's Old-Ass Corpse!,
nepenthe,
08-Feb-05 08:43 AM, #6
I so wanted to be there.,
Lyristeon,
08-Feb-05 08:18 AM, #5
RE: I so wanted to be there.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:05 PM, #29
Tjok was cool.,
Drahke (Guest),
08-Feb-05 08:01 AM, #4
Oh MAN!..... Damn... (text),
Nightwiggler (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:59 AM, #3
Re: Ruffleguff,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 07:00 PM, #28
RE: (AGE DEATH) [OUTLANDER] Tjok Bjorn-Kjr the Venerabl...,
shamanman,
08-Feb-05 07:14 AM, #2
One more thing I almost forgot about, which I give you ...,
shamanman,
08-Feb-05 04:41 PM, #14
Re: Triyet:,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 06:59 PM, #27
Ah, Tjok,
Amaranthe,
08-Feb-05 05:24 AM, #1
My feelings as well,
Karrel (Guest),
08-Feb-05 08:46 AM, #8
Thanks, Amaranthe.,
Tjok. (Guest),
08-Feb-05 06:40 PM, #26
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