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Random guy (Guest)Tue 01-Feb-05 11:17 AM

  
#34787, "This is why I hate Lichs."


          

>On the one hand, when was the last time any paladin got three
>virtues? Sure, you can say she roleplayed well (Duh) all you
>like, but there have been if not better roleplayed, then just
>as well roleplayed paladins more recently who got bupkis.
>Audriel is a prime example. Roleplayed so well she caused a
>resurgance in a dead religion, led the Fortress and became a
>heroimm. She was nearly a hero before she even got her first
>virtue, let alone two.


Why did Audriel only get one virtue? Mayby because she followed a dead religion, no IMM was watching her as much or something, but I agree she should of deserved 2.


>think a body count should be the only thing considered when
>handing out extra powers. Really thats kind of silly don't you
>think? "This person is already mowing down people left and
>right. So, lets give them MORE power because...well because".
>Lariya SHOULD have been a power house, considering how well
>she knew the class, and how best to use the advantages it has
>against other players in ANY situation. You can say "It
>doesn't matter" but that level of knowledge clearly makes a
>difference, and a third virtue may be seen as just overkill.


This is why I hate Lichs. "OK, this guy is a total badass, lets give him even more powers so he's even more unstoppable and if he overcomes the limitations that a Lich was, which a lot of elite guys can and did, let's give him some rituals so he's practically a demi-god who can wipe out his range solo and eventually deletes out of boredom."

Zorzual had, what, a 99% PK ratio? That's sick, thank God you don't see unbalanced, overpowered chars like him anymore.


>Meanwhile someone who is leading the Fortress, roleplaying her
>ass off (well enough to heroimm) has none, or one virtue. When
>you look at things from that perspective, do you blame people
>for wanting some answers?


That is a good point.


>Now, on the other hand, I am by no means saying Lariya did not
>deserve what she got. Lariya was a solid character, who stood
>out for taking risks and always mixing it up. But what it
>really boils down to is none of this matters. People are going
>to look at the player, look at the suspicious seldom-given
>third virtue, and have their minds made up before you even
>answer. Frankly, I wouldn't even bother, because it's just
>going to cause a huge round of nitpicking and bitching.


Noone bitched when Lochzan got three or those special powers, but he handicapped himself so much and died so often that it was more than balanced out.

I can't blame some people with wanting balance, that with 3 virtues, a leader weapon, maran powers, and a tat, Lariya turned from a excellent PKer, to an overpowered, unbalanced juggernaut. The sort of char where it's not even worth trying to fight since you know you're going to get 2-3 rounded, which isn't fun or challenging at all. Why should I spend 45 minutes getting good gear so I loose it if I blink at the wrong time?

Suggestion? Cap virtues at 2.

  

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HOT Topic(AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of the Da... [View all] , Death_Angel, Fri 04-Feb-05 01:28 PM
Reply Random note:, Valguarnera, 04-Feb-05 04:50 PM, #76
Reply I just posted something on the other forums..., Nightwiggler (Guest), 04-Feb-05 06:10 PM, #78
Reply Oh just rub it in you jerk..., dwimmerling, 05-Feb-05 01:15 AM, #79
Reply Never thought of that! but you sure are right., Bajula, 05-Feb-05 10:04 AM, #83
Reply Not disagreeing with you, Kardok (Guest), 07-Feb-05 03:05 PM, #85
     Reply RE: Not disagreeing with you, Aiekooso, 07-Feb-05 07:30 PM, #86
          Reply Hmm, yep., Nightgauntish (Guest), 07-Feb-05 07:44 PM, #87
               Reply RE: Hmm, yep., Aiekooso, 08-Feb-05 04:52 PM, #88
Reply Well.., Lariya (Guest), 04-Feb-05 07:01 AM, #72
Reply RE: Well.., Sgralnaoc (Guest), 04-Feb-05 02:12 PM, #73
Reply I think we..., Big_Strong (Guest), 04-Feb-05 02:49 PM, #74
Reply Well I'm damn glad your gone, Iborenn (Guest), 04-Feb-05 03:08 PM, #75
Reply The only interection I ever had with Lariya..., Nightwiggler (Guest), 04-Feb-05 06:04 PM, #77
Reply RE: Well.., Rom (Guest), 05-Feb-05 02:41 AM, #80
Reply It was a pleasure., Urog. (Guest), 05-Feb-05 03:33 AM, #81
Reply RE: Well.., Jirash (Guest), 05-Feb-05 07:38 AM, #82
Reply RE: Well.., Goronik (Guest), 05-Feb-05 02:02 PM, #84
Reply RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th..., Blobqirt. (Guest), 01-Feb-05 09:15 PM, #51
Reply Someone parrying her attacks when she was prepped., Log Request (Guest), 01-Feb-05 03:24 PM, #44
Reply Just curious, but why does..., Thief, 01-Feb-05 10:34 AM, #33
Reply I'd say draw your own conclusions as the imms aren't go..., Randomposter (Guest), 01-Feb-05 12:14 PM, #37
Reply The Staff defend those who deserve it, var gal (Guest), 01-Feb-05 02:25 PM, #42
     Reply thank you!, shokai, 01-Feb-05 04:08 PM, #46
          Reply I'll add:, Valguarnera, 01-Feb-05 05:20 PM, #47
          Reply I tend to agree., EskelianUnreg (Guest), 01-Feb-05 06:05 PM, #48
          Reply To clarify..., EskelianUnreg (Guest), 01-Feb-05 06:09 PM, #49
          Reply RE: I tend to agree., Gunderg (Guest), 01-Feb-05 09:36 PM, #52
          Reply Sometimes I think I'm the only one who gets the Imm's s..., var gal (Guest), 01-Feb-05 07:07 PM, #50
          Reply Public executions are all the rage! Dontcha know?, Pro-man (Guest), 02-Feb-05 11:08 AM, #53
          Reply Honestly:, Balrahd. (Guest), 02-Feb-05 12:57 PM, #54
          Reply RE: Honestly:, Valguarnera, 02-Feb-05 01:21 PM, #55
          Reply Accept when..., (NOT Pro), 02-Feb-05 08:38 PM, #60
          Reply Yeah yeah. except. i know. n/t, Pro-man. (Guest), 02-Feb-05 08:44 PM, #61
          Reply And what's more., Pro-man (Guest), 02-Feb-05 08:58 PM, #62
               Reply RE: And what's more., Rom (Guest), 02-Feb-05 09:54 PM, #63
                    Reply I was thinking SMUG was someone else., Pro-Man (Guest), 03-Feb-05 12:26 PM, #68
          Reply I didn't make my point clearly it seems., (NOT Pro), 02-Feb-05 08:31 PM, #58
          Reply Regarding "colour" and "honour", Daurwin (Guest), 02-Feb-05 05:16 PM, #56
               Reply RE: Regarding, Rom (Guest), 02-Feb-05 05:38 PM, #57
                    Reply The Correct?, (NOT Pro), 02-Feb-05 08:34 PM, #59
                         Reply RE: The Correct?, Rom (Guest), 02-Feb-05 10:28 PM, #64
                         Reply That's bad spelling, incognito, 03-Feb-05 06:56 AM, #66
                              Reply Grhm. Yo shold say... nt, DurNominator, 03-Feb-05 07:24 AM, #67
                         Reply RE: The Correct., Mr. Diction (Guest), 02-Feb-05 10:30 PM, #65
          Reply Yep, Guilty!, Vynmylak, 03-Feb-05 08:41 PM, #69
          Reply Its good to see you're still around., Der-exal (Guest), 03-Feb-05 09:40 PM, #70
          Reply Nice post, but..., Koe (Guest), 04-Feb-05 04:27 AM, #71
Reply Lariya log, Old necro (Guest), 01-Feb-05 12:41 AM, #32
Reply A Great Log, Dupayne (Guest), 31-Jan-05 08:55 PM, #25
Reply Request: RP logs, Crummy rper (Guest), 31-Jan-05 01:53 PM, #8
Reply Misinformation. n/t, Grurk Muouk, 31-Jan-05 01:55 PM, #9
Reply Asking for logs..., Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 02:20 PM, #10
Reply He said that Lariya had like 4 virtues..., var gal (Guest), 31-Jan-05 02:44 PM, #12
     Reply Lariya did have three or four virtues., Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 02:51 PM, #13
          Reply ???, shokai, 31-Jan-05 04:49 PM, #16
               Reply Why are you getting defensive?, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 05:13 PM, #17
               Reply I don't think he's so much defensive as annoyed at the ..., Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 06:05 PM, #20
               Reply My request was to see logs., Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 07:51 PM, #22
                    Reply Firstly, I didn't put any words in your mouth., Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 09:40 PM, #27
                         Reply Show me where I used the word 'demand'~, Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 10:25 PM, #28
                              Reply A less inflamitory title than I originally wrote..., Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 11:01 PM, #29
                              Reply I think the problem is that there is an implied "undese..., Theerkla, 01-Feb-05 11:16 AM, #35
                                   Reply If I sound overly aggressive, Enbuergo, 01-Feb-05 01:14 PM, #41
                                        Reply Nuh uh buddy boy..., Vladamir, 01-Feb-05 03:23 PM, #43
               Reply well.., shokai, 31-Jan-05 08:03 PM, #23
               Reply RE: Why are you getting defensive?, nepenthe, 31-Jan-05 09:15 PM, #26
                    Reply My original response was to the 'misinfo' flag., Enbuergo1 (Guest), 31-Jan-05 11:34 PM, #30
                         Reply The question itself had misinfo in it. nt, Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 11:41 PM, #31
               Reply You realize nothing you can say is going to actually ch..., Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 06:15 PM, #19
               Reply RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall..., shokai, 31-Jan-05 08:19 PM, #24
               Reply RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall..., Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 09:49 PM, #34
               Reply RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall..., Evil Genius (Anonymous), 01-Feb-05 12:37 PM, #38
               Reply This is why I hate Lichs., Random guy (Guest), 01-Feb-05 11:17 AM #36
                    Reply I like when we have the occasional unstopable Bad-Azz., Pro-Man (Guest), 01-Feb-05 12:50 PM, #39
                    Reply Seconded. nt, Nivek1, 01-Feb-05 01:07 PM, #40
                    Reply Just some problems here..., Vladamir, 01-Feb-05 03:30 PM, #45
               Reply Well, not really...., Pendragon (Guest), 10-Feb-05 03:05 PM, #89
Reply Perhaps you could be less vague with your post Grurk?, DurNominator, 31-Jan-05 02:40 PM, #11
Reply Well for one thing she didn't have four virtues. nt, Vladamir, 31-Jan-05 05:44 PM, #18
Reply I'm pretty sure.., Grurk Muouk, 31-Jan-05 03:30 PM, #14
     Reply I'll stick with him on that one and go as far as to say..., Drag0nSt0rm, 31-Jan-05 04:10 PM, #15
Reply Who cares? Just drop the whole thing, it doesn't matter..., Eskelian, 31-Jan-05 06:40 PM, #21
Reply RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th..., thornheart, 31-Jan-05 10:10 AM, #7
Reply Woo! The Demon elf is gone!, Iborenn (Guest), 31-Jan-05 09:58 AM, #6
Reply I stand in awe., Bajula, 30-Jan-05 10:23 PM, #5
Reply Scarier than hell, kas, 30-Jan-05 01:18 AM, #3
Reply What it was like fighting Lariya., Mek (Guest), 29-Jan-05 09:34 PM, #2
Reply What it was like fighting Lariya, Rom (Guest), 30-Jan-05 03:16 AM, #4
Reply A legend has fallen nt, CF fan (Guest), 29-Jan-05 09:30 PM, #1
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