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#1903, "Tricky question this."
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Thank you for opening this up to the playerbase. This should hopefully make people realise how tough it is to think of a good alternative that hits the 'middle ground' of both sides.
Please note that I am not a hugely knowledgeable mage player, but I do consider myself above average exploration-wise. I do know 20(ish) locations and have many, many more I would check as hunches.
A few ideas I will toss out. Please note, these are only raw suggestions that others might be able to refine or modify to fit CF's balance:
- Create an new skill/spell (Scholar's Ward?): A short duration, lesser extent damage reduction that can give people a little boost to their survivability for a short time. It would probably need a cooldown timer on it. I would tie this into the 'exploration skills' pathway. Ranked higher than Legendary awareness and Mage only. Available at level 45-hero. Incompatible with ABS/prot+sanc of any kind but not stoneskin. This is probably my favourite solution.
- Create an edge for detect artifact (Archmage's sagacity?/Sagacious researcher): Could be damage reduction (as above) or a 'hint' of some kind. I'm not sure how hard it would be to do but perhaps a toggle could be set up: black/amber/sienna to give the chance of a 'hotter/colder' echo upon entering an area. It would not be 100% (probably quite low >50%) and affected by the veil. The edge would be very expensive.
These are my two suggestions*. Feel free to build on or use anything within or rip them to shreds. I just want to take a brief moment to post a few other thoughts below on some of the other aspects and suggestions.
Two more things might help people be less inclined to have a 'mongoose is Bull****!' moment with regard to the new system:
- Remove really tricky to obtain ABS: I don't know how many locations are (deep) within area explores or on NPCs that cannot be solo'd at hero. I would start any changes by removing these if they are indeed present. That way people will know: 'Okay so I can't find my ABS but at least I don't need a three man group to find it. I guess I'll look harder.' I'm not asking for less locations, just make all locations possible to reach for all mage combos (at hero) all the time.
- Make detect artifact work independently of the veil (if possible.)
These two things might not necessarily give players their wands. But would probably make them feel slightly more in control. Something like a placebo.
Thoughts on some other suggestions:
- The 'new set' ABS edges: Okay I guess depending on the mechanics, and this might work for some. If it gives a second set of locations in addition to the first then I am all for it. If it resets the first set of locations to a second I would not be inclined to take them though. If I have scoured Thera for my wands to no avail I'm not going to want to do so a second/third/fourth/fifth time with the edges. I'd be more inclined to roll up a new mage. The character would have to be something pretty special for me to keep it going for hours more exploration.
- Give mages Aura/shield: I don't like this idea. I do enjoy the exploration/knowledge aspect of the mage class.
As an aside, Imm given quests and static NPC quests for locations are out of the question too IMO. Imm given opens up a whole new set of imm responsibilities and provides more ammunition for citing immspiracy or favouritism. Static quests are too openly abused by OOC means.
*Disclaimer: I have not read posts on the rest of this thread. If it looks like I'm ripping someone else off or repeating, I apologise.
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Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system
[View all] , Zulghinlour, Mon 25-May-09 11:52 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Area based.,
Semaphore,
13-Aug-09 10:39 AM, #230
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Area based.,
Daevryn,
13-Aug-09 10:40 AM, #231
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Jugynheim,
27-Jul-09 10:22 PM, #228
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Slight addition to detect artifact?,
Habbs,
15-Jul-09 02:45 PM, #224
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) *Thumbs up* N/t,
Alandale (Guest),
15-Jul-09 11:00 PM, #225
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That would be interesting! nt,
Dervish,
17-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #226
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) And another idea,
Habbs,
27-Jul-09 10:22 PM, #227
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) *Thumbs Down* (Wall-o-text),
Seil clavin (Guest),
11-Aug-09 09:08 PM, #229
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Small request,
Kadsies (Guest),
07-Jul-09 12:28 PM, #214
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It isnt that hard, ive gotten the quest @ level 37.,
Cerunnir,
07-Jul-09 02:38 PM, #215
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) And remember that 'k' is right next to 'l' when you loo...,
Abernytee (Guest),
08-Jul-09 09:28 AM, #219
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: And remember that 'k' is right next to 'l' when you...,
Cerunnir,
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #222
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) So you're just not very observant? (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
07-Jul-09 01:14 PM, #216
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I would live RL in brief if I could. n/t,
Kadsies (Guest),
07-Jul-09 06:40 PM, #217
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Married man? -nt-,
Mek (Guest),
07-Jul-09 08:23 PM, #218
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I permanently turned brief off after obs xp was introdu...,
DurNominator,
08-Jul-09 09:28 AM, #220
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Instant-Fix.,
Magey (Guest),
06-Jul-09 09:18 PM, #213
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Instant-Fix.,
Magey (Guest),
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #221
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like this Idea but...,
Iza,
09-Jul-09 11:09 PM, #223
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Work scrolls into the mix,
Doof (Guest),
04-Jul-09 12:40 AM, #212
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Weaker alternatives,
Void,
17-Jun-09 11:27 AM, #209
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) One more change and you are done! txt,
SomeDude (Guest),
16-Jun-09 01:53 PM, #203
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Eh.,
Daevryn,
16-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #204
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Eh.,
Zulghinlour,
16-Jun-09 02:05 PM, #205
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Just a thought from a player perspective,
Mek (Guest),
16-Jun-09 02:29 PM, #207
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) What Mekantos said. nt,
SomeDude (Guest),
16-Jun-09 03:01 PM, #208
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Agreed,
Habbs,
17-Jun-09 09:38 PM, #210
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Please...,
Forsakenz (Guest),
16-Jun-09 02:29 PM, #206
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) One thing that would definitely help,
Mek (Guest),
15-Jun-09 02:49 PM, #201
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Eskelian,
13-Jun-09 12:06 PM, #198
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Eskelian-lazy (Guest),
24-Jun-09 02:50 PM, #211
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Sir - Some concise thoughts from a no-OOC cheat ring ex...,
Humbert,
13-Jun-09 10:34 AM, #197
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I really good suggestion!,
Arrna (Guest),
13-Jun-09 10:07 PM, #199
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I agree you old woman!,
Humbet (Guest),
14-Jun-09 12:12 PM, #200
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My Idea: Making Mages Viable.,
Iza,
12-Jun-09 06:23 PM, #190
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) This is actually a really good idea with a few changes.,
Vet (Guest),
12-Jun-09 06:49 PM, #191
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Though your missing a vital point...,
Arrna (Guest),
12-Jun-09 08:19 PM, #192
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: My Idea: Making Mages Viable.,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-09 07:25 PM, #193
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) But...,
Iza,
13-Jun-09 10:34 AM, #196
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Why not just keep it like it was with a few changes?,
Vet (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #187
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Do away with the massive -regen on damredux.,
VargLazy (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #185
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Idea: Something for everyone,
Artificial,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #179
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Isildur,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #178
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) The problem I have with cool down timers,
Dragomir,
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #184
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: The problem I have with cool down timers,
Isildur,
12-Jun-09 03:14 PM, #189
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Problem,
Mek (Guest),
11-Jun-09 07:44 PM, #186
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) But now they are #### more anyway, so why to bother? n/...,
Dervish,
12-Jun-09 09:45 AM, #188
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Another Suggestion, Way different than current txt,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 02:16 PM, #170
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) For the record....,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 02:36 PM, #171
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Fine. Just throwing out ideas! nt,
Larcat,
10-Jun-09 02:37 PM, #172
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Do away with sleeks.,
KennyPowers (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #160
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Zulgh, man.,
Dallevian,
10-Jun-09 11:37 AM, #157
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulgh, man.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 11:41 AM, #158
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I have, yo.,
Dal Forsaken (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:48 PM, #168
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I have, yo.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:04 PM, #173
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) But you're open to it?,
Forsakenz (Guest),
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #177
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Other reasons I like my idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
10-Jun-09 02:16 PM, #169
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Other reasons I like my idea.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:09 PM, #174
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Suggestion for a system.,
SomeDude (Guest),
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #151
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) You stole my idea.... which I stole from Rade. Totally ...,
Java,
09-Jun-09 10:51 PM, #155
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. Good idea! nt,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 11:37 AM, #156
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 11:43 AM, #159
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #161
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Specific answers.,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #162
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Specific answers.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 01:36 PM, #165
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Devil's Advocate...,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 01:48 PM, #167
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Devil's Advocate...,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:12 PM, #175
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Devil's Advocate...,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #182
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Isn't the idea to NOT have "difficult" and "easy" locat...,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #180
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Specific answers.,
Dervish,
12-Jun-09 08:19 PM, #194
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Specific answers.,
Daevryn,
12-Jun-09 08:45 PM, #195
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) An alternate form of the same basic idea.,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #163
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Another note....,
SomeDude (Guest),
10-Jun-09 01:24 PM, #164
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Suggestion for a system.,
Java,
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #181
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I think plain and simple it should be like this.,
Vet (Guest),
02-Jun-09 02:21 PM, #146
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I think plain and simple it should be like this.,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 01:38 PM, #166
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Grudan,
01-Jun-09 10:27 AM, #140
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:17 PM, #176
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Challenge system on top of exploration idea,
Grudan - Guest (Guest),
11-Jun-09 09:37 AM, #183
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) New system suggestion,
Exit,
01-Jun-09 02:30 AM, #134
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: New system suggestion,
Exit,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #136
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: New system suggestion,
Daevryn,
01-Jun-09 08:25 AM, #139
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: New system suggestion,
Exitguest (Guest),
01-Jun-09 06:55 PM, #143
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Just one thing from your post here...,
SomeDude (Guest),
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #152
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) If you read what Zulg has been saying....,
Arrna (Guest),
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #138
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Rade_ (Guest),
01-Jun-09 12:30 AM, #133
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like the second part of this..,
Java,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #135
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Straklaw,
01-Jun-09 08:10 AM, #137
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) There's only one check per location. So you go there, a...,
Java,
01-Jun-09 04:13 PM, #141
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm refererring to new characters, not the same one.,
Straklaw,
02-Jun-09 10:02 AM, #145
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Which isn't any better in the current system..,
Java,
02-Jun-09 07:18 PM, #148
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I'm refererring to new characters, not the same one...,
Rade_ (Guest),
04-Jun-09 03:11 PM, #149
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think, if it was done right....,
Tac,
04-Jun-09 11:27 PM, #150
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Too exploitable,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 10:17 PM, #153
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) So you wouldn't try getting them at lvl 30 or so?,
Java,
09-Jun-09 10:51 PM, #154
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 04:59 PM, #95
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Will RC rewarded shield remain the same?,
RC winner (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #96
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Likely, yes (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:13 PM, #103
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Things I'd like to ask/tweak,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #97
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Things I'd like to ask/tweak,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:17 PM, #104
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) YES PLEASE MASSA! I really like this.~,
Treebeard1 (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #98
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #99
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:22 PM, #105
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 11:02 PM, #113
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 11:04 PM, #114
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Dervish,
28-May-09 11:27 PM, #115
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I know you're bending over backward here.,
Scrimbul,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #123
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I know you're bending over backward here.,
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:23 PM, #128
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Some feedback,
Mek (Guest),
28-May-09 06:28 PM, #100
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Some feedback,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:25 PM, #106
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Isildur,
28-May-09 07:02 PM, #101
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:30 PM, #108
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) that sounds pretty do-able,
Aodh,
28-May-09 07:07 PM, #102
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: that sounds pretty do-able,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 07:31 PM, #109
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I LOVE YOU. nt,
Lye (Guest),
28-May-09 07:37 PM, #110
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just curious,
Torak_guest (Guest),
28-May-09 08:52 PM, #111
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Just curious,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 08:53 PM, #112
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Concerns within.,
Splntrd,
29-May-09 01:09 AM, #116
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Concerns within.,
Zulghinlour,
29-May-09 01:11 AM, #117
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Love this idea.,
Zephon,
29-May-09 08:49 PM, #118
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like this idea.,
Koe (Guest),
29-May-09 11:35 PM, #119
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Zulg's thoughts, hashed out with a few other IMPS,
DurNominator,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #120
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I am on board with this 100%...,
_Magus_,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #122
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I am on board with this 100%...,
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:16 PM, #126
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) So when-ish are you expecting this to go in?,
anon_ (Guest),
30-May-09 06:12 PM, #124
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I currently have no timeline (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:14 PM, #125
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So when-ish are you expecting this to go in?,
Daevryn,
31-May-09 11:47 AM, #131
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) One quick question...,
Dragomir,
31-May-09 01:01 AM, #129
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: One quick question...,
Zulghinlour,
31-May-09 01:02 AM, #130
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Like it. ~,
Abernytee (Guest),
31-May-09 05:36 PM, #132
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Small detect artifact adjustment for Outlanders.,
ibuki,
02-Jun-09 02:42 AM, #144
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) more drawback ideas,
Laxminator (Guest),
02-Jun-09 07:18 PM, #147
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) If anyone's been keeping score....,
Daevryn,
16-Jun-09 01:41 PM, #202
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Supplemental idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 02:39 PM, #92
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Supplemental idea.,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 04:54 PM, #94
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) More wand locatons pop based on hours.,
Ayalah (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #80
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) What about something closer to the Thief ingredient sys...,
Yhorian (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #79
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I like this idea if...,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 01:45 PM, #91
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) No huge change needed.,
Pissudin (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #77
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: No huge change needed.,
Daevryn,
28-May-09 10:46 AM, #83
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yup, i know...,
Pissudin (Guest),
28-May-09 12:08 PM, #87
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I agree with this.,
Cerunnir,
28-May-09 11:21 AM, #85
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I agree with this.,
Isildur,
28-May-09 12:50 PM, #88
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: No huge change needed.,
Isildur,
28-May-09 12:50 PM, #89
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Use the guildmaster (sorry if this is a repeat),
Abernytee (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #76
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Use the guildmaster (sorry if this is a repeat),
Zulghinlour,
30-May-09 07:17 PM, #127
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) One crazy idea that is not so crazy actually,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #70
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) This isn't even worth a response (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 11:19 PM, #74
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) ROFL! I LOVE this idea. n/t,
ROFL (Guest),
01-Jun-09 06:55 PM, #142
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Tricky question this.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 09:29 PM #65
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tricky question this.,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 09:55 PM, #68
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Quick aside, four path invoker is very viable.,
TMNS (Guest),
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick aside, four path invoker is very viable.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 11:41 PM, #75
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Fair enough.,
Istirith01 (Guest),
27-May-09 11:41 PM, #73
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Is this too stupidly simple?,
Puppet (Guest),
27-May-09 08:34 PM, #60
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Theerkla,
27-May-09 08:13 PM, #57
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:16 PM, #58
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) a re-adjusting,
laxicus (Guest),
27-May-09 07:52 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: a re-adjusting,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:43 PM, #62
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: a re-adjusting,
Krysantur (Guest),
27-May-09 10:02 PM, #69
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Lightmaged (Guest),
27-May-09 06:48 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:21 PM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/SHield/Barrier,
Lightmaged (Guest),
27-May-09 09:29 PM, #64
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Re,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 09:29 PM, #66
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Goals,
Valkenar,
27-May-09 04:12 PM, #44
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) my idea:,
Isildur,
27-May-09 04:12 PM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: my idea:,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:47 PM, #56
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: my idea:,
Isildur,
27-May-09 08:54 PM, #63
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: my idea:,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 09:26 PM, #67
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Valkenar,
27-May-09 03:12 PM, #42
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Give limited versions of the protection spells to mages,
Jagaub,
27-May-09 01:57 PM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Give limited versions of the protection spells to m...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:44 PM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Give mages another protection spell, reduce power of th...,
Jagaub,
27-May-09 01:57 PM, #40
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'd be more inclined...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:42 PM, #48
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) To keep it simple.,
The Heretic,
27-May-09 01:09 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: To keep it simple.,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:28 PM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I agree,
The Heretic,
27-May-09 06:48 PM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I agree,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 06:50 PM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I agree,
The Heretic,
28-May-09 11:21 AM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Retooling ABS,
Yhorian (Guest),
26-May-09 07:57 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Good idea! I'll give more input when at home. n/t,
Arrna (Guest),
27-May-09 12:30 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Retooling ABS,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 07:00 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Slight alteration then...,
Yhorian (Guest),
27-May-09 08:34 PM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Slight alteration then...,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 08:38 PM, #61
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Because you said that a big complaint was finding barri...,
Yhorian (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #78
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Ah crap...I accidently deleted the three responses queu...,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 05:11 PM, #32
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Don't change a thing. Ever again. st,
Conservative (Guest),
26-May-09 03:42 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Don't change a thing. Ever again. st,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:27 PM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Another Idea,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 01:13 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Another Idea,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 01:17 PM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Another Idea,
Isildur,
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: EXPLORATION,
A2,
27-May-09 12:08 PM, #36
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: EXPLORATION,
Daevryn,
27-May-09 01:38 PM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Sometimes you confuse me...,
EXB,
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just to log it here,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #9
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Just to log it here,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:47 PM, #13
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Elaborating...,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 02:13 PM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Elaborating...,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 02:40 PM, #22
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Well,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 03:42 PM, #30
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Well,
Graatchman (Guest),
26-May-09 06:14 PM, #33
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Well,
Zulghinlour,
27-May-09 04:25 PM, #45
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Re,
Dwoggurd,
27-May-09 11:13 PM, #71
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Here's the solution:,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'm not Zulg, but this is a really bad idea,
Dwoggurd,
26-May-09 12:52 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Why does that make it a bad idea?,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 01:11 PM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Why does that make it a bad idea?,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 01:15 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Admittedly,
Balrahd. (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Its a Terrible thing.,
Terrible (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Here's the solution:,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 01:03 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Here's the solution:,
Isildur,
26-May-09 07:57 PM, #35
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Hints,
Aodh,
26-May-09 12:13 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Hints,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:52 PM, #14
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My (slightly refined) idea.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: My (slightly refined) idea.,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 02:45 PM, #23
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: My (slightly refined) idea.,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 03:24 PM, #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) No.,
Lye (Guest),
28-May-09 07:32 PM, #107
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Don't DELETE me again!,
Forsakenz (Guest),
28-May-09 12:08 PM, #86
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Stackable DR spell,
Tac,
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Stackable DR spell,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 10:55 AM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Danis (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:17 PM, #11
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Aura/Shield/Barrier...suggest a new system,
Danis (Guest),
26-May-09 03:29 PM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not precisely a new system, but one idea I read and lik...,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 10:50 AM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Not precisely a new system, but one idea I read and...,
Daevryn,
26-May-09 10:51 AM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Honestly,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #81
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Further fleshing out,
Guy (Guest),
28-May-09 01:45 PM, #90
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Rewarding long-lived characters,
Zulghinlour,
26-May-09 12:09 PM, #10
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) However,
EXB_ (Guest),
26-May-09 12:56 PM, #15
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Rewarding long-lived characters,
Ayalah (Guest),
28-May-09 10:20 AM, #82
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Rewarding long-lived characters,
Zulghinlour,
28-May-09 02:49 PM, #93
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Tie it to exp/obs xp. nt,
DurNominator,
30-May-09 10:52 AM, #121
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