RE: I dont like flood about ORCs but ... imms - we need ch...
-FIRST PART- (who knows subject skip it)

I started play as an orc - before i read old logs and forum messages. Yes taktic working well - flee drink bloody - or spinbreak (oh if its falied ) - bash bash - and nothing more

Lots more tactics than that, although that one can be rather effective depending on the opponent.

1. trample damage too weak to use it well - so snares become defencive skill . What for i must set snares?? have time to flee and run? without skills that i can use on person that lie's on the ground? tramle too weak

Trample is a useful skill on occasion, as are snares (although personally I would set the snare then start the fight rather than try to get it to work while I am running from an opponent.)

2. I playing Cf not too long - but in others mud that i play - IMMs NEVER agree with gangbanging - and what we see here? Orcs MUST gangbangin.. as for me orcs must have one or two taktik more


I have seen several orcs who were very effective solo, and others who were effective in a group (and plenty that were ineffective solo and sadly enough even more who were horrid in groups.) One thing to keep in mind is that while everyone talks about how easy it is to gang someone, I watch a lot of gangs going after people and failing miserably. Killing in a group takes a bit more skill than most people give it credit for.

-SECOND PART-
Imms

1. Orcs need changes

Personally I think they are pretty balanced.

2. Yes they are stupid and high wimpy warriors - but if they are berserk MAKE IT GREAT - with some bad affects - like cant flee or attack everything

It does some interesting things. Personally if I am hunting an elf, I like the autoattack. Not sure why it would make an orc not flee though.

3. Orc must have more tactik to play - not only group kill - (hide snare - some skills on snaring person...)

They have a fair number of tactics, although I will concede that I haven't seen anyone really use them to the best of their ability in quite some time.

When you will be in Mud - just type -who orc-
and you will see how many people like your point of view on orcs

I have noticed a small decrease in the number of orcs, but personally I think this is more because of a new cabal being out and several of the "hard-core" orc players being on summer break. I do have some subtle things in the pipeline to help orcs, some of which you may have noticed in the game already.

Thanks for the feedback.

Thrak.

Come on, you all thought the same thing.

can be pretty damn tough. They have insane hp and with the elf skins + spine breaker, they can be very tough to beat if the orc has any skill. Orcs can prep too, just like any other class. Orcs however do tank like a brick wall but their hp and the damage they are capable of, kind of makes up for that. Look into them more carefully and think outside the box a bit. Lotsa neat stuff you can do with orcs.

People do like orcs. I know when I played one most of us had a blast (as well as solo pk'ing with them at times).

You've played this mud for 2 months. That means you can't have played many classes for any length of time. That means you haven't been on the receiving end of what orcs do to you. Until you have both played an orc and fought some of the top orcs, I don't think you can really comment with reliability.

Saying trample damage is too weak to use is like saying trip damage is too weak to use.