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Marcus_Thu 11-Jan-07 03:58 AM
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#15907, "Learning / immunities"


          

How about making skills go up much slower when fighting mobs that are immune to your melee attack or vice versa? As opposed to removing all skill improvements, I mean.

Mebbe:
Vuln mob: 150% improvement rate
Standard: 100%
Resistant: 67%
Immune: 25%

  
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Reply RE: Learning / immunities, Rodriguez, 11-Jan-07 07:28 AM, #1
     Reply Yep., Daevryn, 11-Jan-07 08:13 AM, #2
          Reply Nope.., Marcus_, 11-Jan-07 03:17 PM, #3
               Reply RE: Nope.., Daevryn, 11-Jan-07 03:10 PM, #4
               Reply i updated my previous reply but you were too fast :p nt, Marcus_, 11-Jan-07 03:18 PM, #5
               Reply RE: Nope.., Valkenar, 11-Jan-07 05:50 PM, #6

RodriguezThu 11-Jan-07 07:28 AM
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#15909, "RE: Learning / immunities"
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I think its to prevent people from punching the same mob over and over for hours just to spam skills.

  
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DaevrynThu 11-Jan-07 08:13 AM
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#15910, "Yep."
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It eliminates all manner of stupid practice abuses... which I gather you're trying to get back.

  
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Marcus_Thu 11-Jan-07 03:07 PM
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#15917, "Nope.."
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 Edited on Thu 11-Jan-07 03:17 PM

          

Even while botting, praccing at 25% of max speed isn't worth it.. Don't make stupid assumptions, you're better than that

Edit: To clarify. There are alot of times you have a non-spampractice reason to fight a mob that you are immnune to or vice versa. And hell, if somebody wants to learn at 25% efficiency, that's their problem. Fighting a mob that's immune to your attacks isn't a good move anyways, since with the level affects on praccing, the problem isn't the mob dying, but you. And invokers aren't affected by level differences anyways from what I recall. That leaves paladins and storm giants.

What I wanted was to get rid of an annoying message. And to reward the should-be smart thing which is fighting mobs that are vuln to you. Ok?

  
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DaevrynThu 11-Jan-07 03:10 PM
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#15918, "RE: Nope.."
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Not worth it? For you, sure, I'll believe that... but you would not believe some of the seemingly stupid or crazy botting setups I've seen on CF over the years.

  
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Marcus_Thu 11-Jan-07 03:17 PM
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#15919, "i updated my previous reply but you were too fast :p nt"
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 Edited on Thu 11-Jan-07 03:18 PM

          

nt

  
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ValkenarThu 11-Jan-07 05:48 PM
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#15928, "RE: Nope.."
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 Edited on Thu 11-Jan-07 05:50 PM

          

>Even while botting, praccing at 25% of max speed isn't worth
>it.. Don't make stupid assumptions, you're better than that
>

You underestimate how much someone like me hates practicing. I absolutely will not do it, even though it's obviously worth perfecting your skills (Cabdru is evidence enough for that). I would bot at 1% effectiveness if it meant I could go do other things with my life in the mean time. I'd have no problem not really playing my character for a coupe weeks if I could come back to perfected skills. I'd rather bot for 200 hours than spend 2 hours manually. That's how much I hate skill practice. It may take 100 times as long to perfect the skills, but at least I haven't wasted any of my actual time (well, maybe a tiny bit starting the bot and poking it once in a while).

Also, writing bots is fun to me. I think writing and refining a succesful bot is quite enjoyable. I used to do a lot of that on BBSs as a kid. Ah, the joys of botting with Telemate.

On CF I don't bot at all because it's against the rules. So I limit myself to classes that are less impacted by having skills I can't easily perfect while ranking stay at 71%.

  
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