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MekantosThu 01-Sep-05 10:55 PM
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#10189, "A skill idea for shamans"


          

Ok, so being the dork that I am, I was looking over skillsets for the classes and thought of something when I stopped on the shaman page.

Now, one important piece in the shaman puzzle is the part about how their abilities are very self-centered (i.e.; they don't heal, recall, or do very much of anything that is helpful for their allies). Nothing wrong with that. The thing is, shamans are also supposed to be relentless zealots...so how about giving them a skill that makes them ward off hunger and thirst for long periods of time? I know, I know, you guys are thinking "Mek, give us something BIG to consider for once!" But we all know that the BIG stuff gets shot down way more than the little things.

Another take on the whole shabang might be to give shamans create food/water, but have the food that is created be poisonous to those of the opposite alignment, useless to neutrals, and maybe like normal food for people of the same alignment. I could see cool little emotes going with those poisonings as well.

Eh?

  

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Reply My take on it..., Astillian, 05-Sep-05 06:49 PM, #10
Reply RE: A skill idea for shamans, Valguarnera, 02-Sep-05 07:38 AM, #4
Reply RE: A skill idea for shamans, Mekantos, 02-Sep-05 12:26 PM, #5
     Reply RE: A skill idea for shamans, Straklaw, 02-Sep-05 09:43 PM, #6
     Reply My addition, DurNominator, 04-Sep-05 01:41 PM, #9
     Reply Well put. (n/t), appelsien, 02-Sep-05 09:53 PM, #7
     Reply RE: A skill idea for shamans, Valguarnera, 04-Sep-05 12:13 PM, #8
     Reply Agreed., Oddjob, 15-Sep-05 04:24 PM, #11
Reply RE: A skill idea for shamans, Eskelian, 01-Sep-05 11:39 PM, #2
Reply Sounds like an overlap with Survivalist. nt., Haggler, 01-Sep-05 11:34 PM, #1
     Reply Or fast. (n/t), Karel, 02-Sep-05 01:04 AM, #3

AstillianMon 05-Sep-05 06:49 PM
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#10221, "My take on it..."
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I like them to be relentless, once they use this ability to stave off hunger and thirst, it would be for an unknown time, the ability would show up in the aff list but not have a specific timer set to it. After doing this, it would be expected to use this time to be relentless if a PC off the opposite faith is not struck before the timer is done then you eat massive damage per tick. As the god of your faith is greatly upset with your pathetic actions.

Even if you strike the person, the timer will end but you only be taking the regular hunger thirst damage.

  

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ValguarneraFri 02-Sep-05 07:38 AM
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#10203, "RE: A skill idea for shamans"
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This doesn't strike me as fitting the offensive niche of shamans very well. They're very intentionally limited in their non-combat utility supplications.

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MekantosFri 02-Sep-05 12:26 PM
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#10211, "RE: A skill idea for shamans"
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This doesn't strike me as fitting the offensive niche of shamans very well. They're very intentionally limited in their non-combat utility supplications.


While I agree that their non-combat supps should be limited, the reasons for this change are pointed directly at the relentless nature of shamans. As it stands they have a way to heal themselves, a way to refresh themselves, as well as various cures for maledictions. It just stands to reason that they'd have a way to deal with hunger and thirst in a priestly way. I know it might overlap a bit with other abilities that already exist in the game, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't go well for shamans.

Anyways, that's that.

  

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StraklawFri 02-Sep-05 09:43 PM
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#10213, "RE: A skill idea for shamans"
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I'd lend my support to that. Maybe even just give them a sup that just negates them feeling the effects of their hunger/thirst until it wears off, then they feel the starving/thirst in a nasty way.

  

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DurNominatorSun 04-Sep-05 01:41 PM
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#10218, "My addition"
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>I'd lend my support to that. Maybe even just give them a sup
>that just negates them feeling the effects of their
>hunger/thirst until it wears off, then they feel the
>starving/thirst in a nasty way.

Sure. Let's add the feature to Aristaeia commune.

  

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appelsienFri 02-Sep-05 09:53 PM
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#10214, "Well put. (n/t)"
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(n/t)

  

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ValguarneraSun 04-Sep-05 12:13 PM
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#10217, "RE: A skill idea for shamans"
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The problem is that if you stretch those boundaries for any defensive/utility ability which makes them able to pursue prey "relentlessly", you can justify more or less anything for them, and give them Fly, Aegis, Gate, etc.

I like clear boundaries between classes.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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OddjobThu 15-Sep-05 04:24 PM
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#10308, "Agreed."
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Religious zealots the world over make food and water sacrifices to achieve a higher level of enlightenment in the name of their god.

Your right, its a minor thing and it shouldn't last for ever but it would be pretty cool addition.

POSTER'S DISCLAIMER: "Of course....I don't play anymore, but its just my 2 cents."

  

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EskelianThu 01-Sep-05 11:39 PM
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#10194, "RE: A skill idea for shamans"
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I just don't see that falling in with shamans for some reason. As stands, all other priests are food/water sufficient so I don't see it as a big whoop for shamans to not be. If anything, I'd be inclined to give them call lightning, just because it makes a lot more sense for them to have it than paladins.

  

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HagglerThu 01-Sep-05 11:34 PM
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#10192, "Sounds like an overlap with Survivalist. nt."
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KarelFri 02-Sep-05 01:04 AM
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#10195, "Or fast. (n/t)"
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n/t

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

  

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