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"Worshippers find the idea of charity repugnant. There is no pride in possessing a thing if it is yours not because you earned it but because someone merely gave it to you. "

I take it you aren't down with good-aligned followers using request?

Thus cementing Daevryn as an imm for neutrals and evils...har.

>I take it you aren't down with good-aligned followers using
>request?

I'm not going to categorically say it's ruled out for all possible permutations of roleplay, but it's certainly something that should present your prototypical good Daevryn character some difficulty.

I think the religion tends a bit... I won't say lawful evil, but both away from good and a bit away from chaos is fair. It's not totally beyond the pale to be a good-aligned person, and yet feel like giving your stuff to other people simply because their need is greater is a good idea.

I think a lot of the fun of empowerment is discovery, but I'm going to throw this one thing out here because the discovery shouldn't usually be of the kind wherein you realize your whole character concept is totally unworkable.

Daevryn has sphere Earth, and I tend to get a fair crop of Outlandery types.

The thing you have to understand about the character of Daevryn (as established during the Eldritch Consortium / Vault of Nyastren / Prismatic Veil series of quests which introduced him, among other things) is that (short version) he's a guy who was born into poverty, became a miner, and ultimately built a small fortune out of shrewd business dealings, largely with that industry. He adores all of the creature comforts cities produce and money can buy. He's a lot closer to a dwarf's appreciation of earth and stone than your stereotypical Outlander or druid's.

That's not to say you can't be an Outlander or a druid and follow Daevryn. I've had a few followers that made peace with these notions one way or another and managed to roll great with it... but I've also had a few that were like... oh. Well. I guess I'll delete then.

Edited to add: There are other potential Daevryn/Outlander issues, but this is usually the first one to come up. It's not the easiest choice to pick and Daevryn is generally not shy about saying, "You can't have any (or any more) empowerment until I like you."

Assuming you don't expect a tattoo or to become 'Daevryn's little Avatar of rockiness' - would you still give them vaguely earthy loving and attention if they came to you? I could see how you'd find it hard to mingle it with Daevryn's identity but maybe as a slightly anonymous earthly spirit or as a 'sect' of your shrine.

One of the reasons I go to a religion is less for the eventual tattoo love but for actually exploring an imms role, religious ideas and being able to relate to them. Digging into Rayihn's was good fun and I loved her hands on approach that I always like from the Shazmeister (remind me to roll a herald before Iunna pops her clogs).

I was going to roll one of said druids as my next char to try out this new telluric commune. But I might just walk over to Innis' pad instead

Yhorian.

I have no problem doing Earth empowerments under an identity that isn't Daevryn.

Daevryn character coming up.

Man, seeing this religion makes me miss when I used to really try to roleplay. I had this anti-paladin like...5 years ago? Deveskrius was his name, human AP back when barrier was a mystery to me. Was a Valguarnera follower who sought to spy on Scion for Tribunal in exchange for vindicatorship from Bria, while simultaneously trying to use it to further himself with Valg (since, this reminds me a lot of Valg's old religion, without the honesty part).

Anywho, hope you're not too swamped.

Have you read Ayn Rand's works? I think I've got a great take on a role. Should be fun.

>Man, seeing this religion makes me miss when I used to really
>try to roleplay.

Should give it a shot again.

I know, it's not always the easiest thing to come up with a really compelling role that you'll actually enjoy playing to the hilt, but whenever I look back, those are always my favorite characters, even though they're rarely the toughest ones.

>Valg (since, this reminds me a lot of Valg's old religion,
>without the honesty part).

Yeah, I think Valg to some degree was coming at some of the Rand-like ideas from another angle.

>Anywho, hope you're not too swamped.

I've had a pretty good run of empowerees recently but I'm managing to get to most of them (I hope). Note the times I posted elsewhere in this forum that I play; I think other people mistake my posting times for times I may actually be on the mud, to their sorrow.

>Have you read Ayn Rand's works?

I've read the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, though it's been a few years since either.

Rand's philosophy makes perfect sense to me as a reaction to the rise of communism/socialism/etc., and while I'm pretty sure pure communism falls apart with real people every time because it's naive about human nature, I think to some degree Rand was almost as naive, going in the other direction -- I just don't see everything working out as well with her sort of quasi-libertarian ultra-capitalism brand of things as she does. Basically, I think communism falls down because it naively assumes people won't be lazy, and Randism falls down because it naively assumes that people won't make stupid choices, be unlucky, etc.

But Daevryn'd agree with a lot of it. Not the only or even really main influence on the persona, but, it's in there!

>I think I've got a great take
>on a role. Should be fun.

Sounds interesting. I'll look forward to it.