I really liked where your char was going. I was hoping you werent one of those other thieves who sit at rank 30-35 and pk to get their ratio up. Was glad to see that your character was interested in guild affairs and politics *wink*.

I was going to echo pretty much what Enbuergo said, very nicely done and I dont know why Glinar isnt around anymore. He was for a while, probably cuz of all my bitching and whining You definately woulda had my recomandation for the next kingpin, to take my place or Enbuergo's, whichever one was gone first...if we ever got to see Glinar again. I really enjoyed our planning and scheeming, as well as your always open ears. You did feed Ajoul a lot of information (since ive been busy as hell with school and now im on vacation...away from my PC) about guild problems and potential problems...that resulted in a few blackballs on my part. Ajoul did not always trust you, Shrahz seemed slippery and sly, but you turned out all right in the end and i began to like you. Cheers and best of luck with next.

Ajoul - other hero thief that shows up

I'll preface by saying I really, really did not want you to go, but I can see why you did. Thieves are weak at high ranks, plain and simple, and I know the reason no high-ranked thieves are showing is because of the rage at being overlooked time and time again as the imms tweak/revamp other classes but not us. It's frustrating knowing that there is absolutely nothing you can do in some circumstances to land a kill. You can have the best set in the world, etc etc, but you're a one (or two) trick pony, and if those tricks fail, you're toast.

Anyway, getting back to my point...you were one of the only thieves I saw coming up as competant enough to run with me without me having to "dumb it down" for you. I have no problem explaining the game to less experienced players, but at the same time, thieves in general seem to lack talent right now (with some exceptions), and it gets monotonous. You and I could have been a wrecking crew, and I'm sorry we're both going to miss that.

About your character: I've never, or almost never, met a more scheming, coniving bitch--but take this in a good way. You were definitely kingpin material, and I was going to do my utmost to see you get that (although it doesn't have any skill/power benefits). I know you were trying to get Glinar's attention, and I'm disappointed that the immortals did not make the effort to recognize your contributions to the guild (imms...if you were planning something for Shrahz, please ignore this). Even though you were a Scion, I could tell you would have put the guild first, while still managing to tie everything together neatly like you always seemed to manage to do.

I'll miss our talks as well, but I think I'll miss the intrigue our interactions created more. When our plan to get you the dragonscale pendant without getting me raped by an enormous gang of scion heros panned out (thereby getting away scot-free)...I was about as happy as if I got it for myself.

I hope you and I get to interact with other characters, because I certainly enjoyed this one.

-Enbuergo, the Hero Thief that Shows Up

My only problem with thieves is that they were not good explorers. In PK they were very, very strong. It takes a lot more finesse to play a thief than any other class. Thieves are however the most breakable class in the game. (If you can find them) It's about as much stalking your victim as assassins do. Fight smarter, not harder is the thief's motto. (It has nothing to do with scrolls or even outside protections, though they do of course help)

They are limited in options, but they advantage of surprise is almost always on their side. Use that to defeat your opponents.

Kay

This is a log that shows me catching a mage unprepared. If he was prepared, you can expect me to run away. Note that part of stealth isn't always being unseen, it's being unexpected.



<944hp 80m 705mv> yell Meh
You step out of the shadows.
You yell 'Meh'

<944hp 80m 705mv> hide
sneak
where
You attempt to hide.

<944hp 80m 705mv> You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 80m 705mv> People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 80m 705mv> yell You just run away

Korezxemp yells 'bah'

<944hp 80m 705mv> hide
sneak
You step out of the shadows.
You yell 'You just run away'

<944hp 80m 705mv> where

Manarei tells you 'is Korezxemp's death your work?'
You attempt to hide.

<944hp 80m 705mv> You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 80m 705mv> People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 80m 705mv> repl Nope
You step out of the shadows.
You tell someone 'Nope'

<944hp 80m 705mv> hide
sneak
You attempt to hide.
Korezxemp yells 'hmm'

<944hp 80m 705mv> where
You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 80m 705mv> People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 80m 705mv> detect
detect
detect

You feel your holy zeal fade.

<944hp 98m 713mv> Your awareness improves.

<944hp 93m 713mv> You are already as alert as you can be.

<944hp 93m 713mv> You are already as alert as you can be.

<944hp 93m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 93m 713mv> whois h
< Human > Helgelium the Advanced Spell Student

<944hp 93m 713mv>
Korezxemp yells 'ye really want a duel of sorts?'

<944hp 93m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 93m 713mv> yell Kay'll whoop your bad bum
hide
sneak
You step out of the shadows.
You yell 'Kay'll whoop your bad bum'

<944hp 93m 713mv> You attempt to hide.

<944hp 93m 713mv> You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 93m 713mv> whre
Huh?

<944hp 93m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 93m 713mv> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> a silver ring set with a single malachite
<worn on finger> a studded ring
<worn around neck> a bandit's robe
<worn around neck> a bandit's robe
<worn on body> a spider hide breastplate
<worn on tail> a barbed tail ring
<worn on head> an ogre-horned helm
<worn on face> a pair of round pince-nez glasses
<worn on legs> (Glowing) a set of arborian leggings
<worn on hindpaws> rear-claw extensions
<worn on forepaws> a pair of razor-sharp front claw extensions
<worn on arms> some embossed bracers
<worn about body> (Glowing) (Humming) the cape of living flames
<worn about waist> a thick belt of woven gold
<worn around wrist> the Bracelet of Charms
<worn around wrist> a malachite bracelet
<wielded> a bright silver broadsword

<944hp 93m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 93m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress
Korezxemp yells 'is that a yes?'

<944hp 93m 713mv> yell Kay'll strach your eye out
You step out of the shadows.
You yell 'Kay'll strach your eye out'

<944hp 103m 713mv> where
hide
sneak
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 103m 713mv> You attempt to hide.

<944hp 103m 713mv> You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 103m 713mv> where
eq
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 103m 713mv> You are using:
<worn on finger> a silver ring set with a single malachite
<worn on finger> a studded ring
<worn around neck> a bandit's robe
<worn around neck> a bandit's robe
<worn on body> a spider hide breastplate
<worn on tail> a barbed tail ring
<worn on head> an ogre-horned helm
<worn on face> a pair of round pince-nez glasses
<worn on legs> (Glowing) a set of arborian leggings
<worn on hindpaws> rear-claw extensions
<worn on forepaws> a pair of razor-sharp front claw extensions
<worn on arms> some embossed bracers
<worn about body> (Glowing) (Humming) the cape of living flames
<worn about waist> a thick belt of woven gold
<worn around wrist> the Bracelet of Charms
<worn around wrist> a malachite bracelet
<wielded> a bright silver broadsword

<944hp 103m 713mv>
Korezxemp yells 'If so let us make it official then!'

<944hp 103m 713mv> aff
You are affected by:
Skill: 'sneak' for 51 hours.
Skill: 'detect hidden' for 50 hours.
Power: 'mantle of the phoenix' for 29 hours.
Power: 'mantle of the phoenix' for 29 hours.
Power: 'mantle of the phoenix' for 29 hours.
Power: 'eyes of flame' for -1 hours.

<944hp 103m 713mv> yell Hm
You step out of the shadows.
You yell 'Hm'

<944hp 103m 713mv> zeal
You feel the light burn strongly inside of you.

<944hp 73m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 73m 713mv> yell Dunno...
You yell 'Dunno...'

<944hp 73m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 73m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 73m 713mv> hide
sneak

Korezxemp yells '*coughs coughs* Kayewele to scratch out...well my eyes'

<944hp 73m 713mv> where
You attempt to hide.

<944hp 73m 713mv> You attempt to move silently.

<944hp 73m 713mv> People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 73m 713mv> where
People near you:
(PK) Kayewele Inside the mirror portal
(PK) Korezxemp Before the Black fortress

<944hp 83m 713mv> d
w
w
Arboria town square


A smoldering corpse lies here, charred beyond all recognition.
(Red Aura) An undead citizen is here.
(Red Aura) An undead citizen is here.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 712mv> West Main Street


(Red Aura) A zombie guard stands here silently awaiting intruders.
(Red Aura) An undead beastly fido is here.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 709mv> n
n
West Gate


(Red Aura) An undead beastly fido is here.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 706mv> w
The Two-Tone Road


(Red Aura) A zombie guard stands here silently awaiting intruders.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 703mv> w
The Junction


(Red Aura) A zombie guard stands here silently awaiting intruders.
(Red Aura) A zombie guard stands here silently awaiting intruders.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 700mv> trip korezxemp
On the Onyx Road


(Red Aura) A zombie guard stands here silently awaiting intruders.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 697mv> Before the Black fortress

east]
(Translucent) (Red Aura) Korezxemp is here.
An earth elemental has arrived.

<944hp 83m 694mv> You trip Korezxemp and he goes down!
You step out of the shadows.
You trample around loudly again.
Your trip grazes Korezxemp.
Seizing upon a moment of weakness, you kick Korezxemp while he's down!
Your vicious attack wounds Korezxemp.
Korezxemp yells 'Help! Kayewele just tripped me!'
You parry Korezxemp's stab.
Your slice DISMEMBERS Korezxemp!
Your claw MASSACRES Korezxemp!
An earth elemental's pound MUTILATES Korezxemp!
An earth elemental's pound MUTILATES Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is covered with bleeding wounds.

<944hp 83m 694mv> trip korezxemp

An earth elemental's pound MUTILATES Korezxemp!
An earth elemental gets a wild look in its eyes.
You parry Korezxemp's stab.
Your slice misses Korezxemp.
Your slice MANGLES Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is gushing blood.

<944hp 83m 694mv>
An earth elemental's pound MUTILATES Korezxemp!
You parry Korezxemp's stab.
Your slice MASSACRES Korezxemp!
Korezxemp parries your claw.
Your slice DISMEMBERS Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is writhing in agony.

<944hp 83m 694mv> You trip Korezxemp and he goes down!
Your trip scratches Korezxemp.
Seizing upon a moment of weakness, you kick Korezxemp while he's down!
Korezxemp grunts in pain as you land a particularly solid kick.
Your vicious attack DISMEMBERS Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is writhing in agony.

<944hp 83m 694mv>
An earth elemental's pound EVISCERATES Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
An earth elemental's kicked dirt scratches Korezxemp.
You parry Korezxemp's stab.
You parry Korezxemp's stab.
Your slice MANGLES Korezxemp!
Korezxemp is DEAD!!
Korezxemp's arm is sliced from his dead body.

<944hp 83m 694mv> tell korezxemp Pow

Korezxemp tells you '*sighs* i didnt prepare'

<944hp 83m 694mv> You tell Korezxemp 'Pow'

Wow. I really would have been flying.

Thieves are definetly very, very strong in pk's, especially when you catch people off guard. I had the majority of my equipment back after I instakilled two of the warders that got the loot. Roleplaying an evil thief for me got kind of boring after the hundred thousanth time I whispered at someone from the shadows. Tripping got old after rank 5. I've had more then a couple thieves at hero range, being an entropist gave me the oppertunity to really screw some folks over pk wise. But, for a non entropic thief, it is hard as hell to get the jump on someone. Even with sylvan thieves, if people knew you were coming, they made the proper preperations and dealt with you accordingly, even though you could hide anywhere on land in the game. I still say that thieves are my favorite class to play, but only because I like strutting around with shiny things on after a pure roleplay char goes gets boring. I dunno, I kind of lost the point of this post somewhere back there. Go pirates?

I don't think I'm the right person for you to lecture about how to pk with a thief, considering Enbuergo is something of a butcher =P. And as far as tactics go, I would say that I'm one of the sneakiest bastards out there. I would assume you posted your log as an example of "good" thief tactics...but as the guy said, he didn't prepare. I don't log many fights, but if I did I'd post me taking down Qwestallix or Gegreigar (although admittedly Gegreigar took me a while to get to) or Antaroc for that matter in town through guards, which I daresay requires a bit more cunning than spamming trip.

Reread my original post, because I think you missed the point.

sigh,
Well it was nice to know you, you where fun to be around
and Im still going to do that thing we talked about. Sorry to
see you go good luck with the next.

I knew you had a pretty awesome set including a the healing dragonscale pendant. Did you die and delete? Dolt.

Good luck.

Goapa

I think at some point he just decided, "When I die, that's it." And yeah, that set was disgusting.

He/she it died three times back to back. I think he just found out a duergar is a nasty class to attempt to play in the hero ranks.

Yeah my 50th level duergar duergar got his ass kicked

That which does not kill us,
makes us stronger.

Oh wait, no you're not. I really love playing thieves, and hadn't played a Scion in a bit, so I went with it. Duergar thieves are great, thieves in general are great. I went through a lot of nice sets, with two after I lost the 'good' one. When I deleted I had 960 hp and a 40 dam. I just got bored level sitting at rank 30, and stupidly decided to rank. It was a very dumb move on my part. No scrolls work in pk's after rank 35, except for slow scrolls which I never really bothered with. I was not looking forward to the hero ranges, especially after I stupidly got killed. If you see a high ranked invoker walking toward you on a mountain, quaff immediatly, don't wait for the mage to word you. I was also starting a bit of evil roleplay which I don't think I could have backed up well. Either way, I jumped out of a potentially frustrating situation before I really had to deal with it. Fairly lame, but I like to have fun. Thanks Enbuergo, for many a talk in the guild, and all the other thieves I interacted with. The guild idea was a great one, and I had some ideas to throw around if I ever got Kingpin, but oh well. Ummm...yeah.

Shrahz

Every single time I saw you in the game, I wanted to call you Sharaz. I'm wondering, did you just modify Sharaz's (a breaks dj) name to get this one?

I said none!

n/t