 Dude.....,
Yaroyas (Guest),
19-Aug-05 08:10 AM, #7
  Hae nah!,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 09:40 AM, #9
 RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Kyn the Savior of the Fallen, ...,
Dalteric,
19-Aug-05 07:42 AM, #5
  Thanks again Dalteric,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 10:10 AM, #10
 RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Kyn the Savior of the Fallen, ...,
Mylinos (Guest),
19-Aug-05 12:40 AM, #3
  I posted a repl for you,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 10:34 AM, #11
 *Taps*,
Kyn (Guest),
18-Aug-05 11:44 PM, #1
 Hmmm.,
Raluin (Guest),
18-Aug-05 11:59 PM, #2
  Help me out.,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 11:11 AM, #12
 RE: Help me out.,
Raluin (Guest),
19-Aug-05 06:53 PM, #14
 How do you get Newbie out of that fight?,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 08:54 PM, #15
 Farewell,
Seiichi (Guest),
19-Aug-05 07:34 AM, #4
  Also...,
Seiichi (Guest),
19-Aug-05 08:07 AM, #6
 Dear Seiichi,
Kyn (Guest),
19-Aug-05 09:35 AM, #8
 RE: Dear Kyn,
Seiichi (Guest),
19-Aug-05 11:40 AM, #13
 RE: *Taps*,
Dahoro (Guest),
19-Aug-05 11:57 PM, #16
 Huh? Who are you?,
Kyn (Guest),
20-Aug-05 12:36 AM, #17
 Well you obviously know who I am.,
Dahoro (Guest),
20-Aug-05 01:27 AM, #18
 I know exactly what I did.,
Kyn (Guest),
20-Aug-05 08:54 AM, #19
 RE: I know exactly what I did.,
Dahoro (Guest),
20-Aug-05 10:28 AM, #20
 This is your interpretaion.,
Kyn (Guest),
20-Aug-05 10:51 AM, #21
  RE: This is your interpretaion.,
Dahoro (Guest),
20-Aug-05 08:47 PM, #23
 Bit of an anonymous post, but needed reply,
shadowlife (Guest),
20-Aug-05 10:30 PM, #24
 RE: Bit of an anonymous post, but needed reply,
Dahoro (Guest),
20-Aug-05 10:39 PM, #25
 FYI:,
nepenthe ,
20-Aug-05 11:55 PM, #26
 RE: FYI:,
Dahoro (Guest),
21-Aug-05 12:05 AM, #27
 The Concept of a Greater good.,
Kyn (Guest),
21-Aug-05 12:23 AM, #28
  RE: The Concept of a Greater good.,
Dahoro (Guest),
21-Aug-05 04:17 AM, #31
 Because of one interaction.,
Kyn (Guest),
21-Aug-05 08:05 PM, #34
 RE: Because of one interaction.,
Dahoro (Guest),
21-Aug-05 10:34 PM, #37
 RE: FYI:,
nepenthe ,
21-Aug-05 12:26 AM, #29
 What about Lochzan then?,
incognito,
21-Aug-05 02:21 PM, #30
 RE: What about Lochzan then?,
Dahoro (Guest),
21-Aug-05 07:06 PM, #32
 I told you in game that there could have been a consequ...,
Kyn (Guest),
21-Aug-05 08:03 PM, #33
  You said something about "things being as they are".,
Dahoro (Guest),
21-Aug-05 10:42 PM, #35
 Eventually he did,
Daurwyn (Guest),
22-Aug-05 03:41 AM, #36
 One more thing.,
Kyn (Guest),
20-Aug-05 10:53 AM, #22
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#40571, "Dude....."
In response to Reply #0
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I loved your character even your speech. I tried copying it, but it doesnt work. Love to chat with you. Hopefully, I see you again. Have fun with school. See You in the fields.
Send me an email smusabkhalil@gmail.com.
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#40576, "Hae nah!"
In response to Reply #7
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I tried to make him sound something like a Pikey from the movie Snatch. I don't know why, but I thought that would make him fun to be around.
I justified it with the fact that he was from an isolated tribe.
I liked hearing you speak to, and got a kick out of what others would think if they saw us together.
I hope you're still around, I felt bad about powering away from you, but you seemed very solid and I think you'll do fine of you stick with it.
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Dalteric | Fri 19-Aug-05 07:42 AM |
Member since 26th Jun 2005
82 posts
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#40568, "RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Kyn the Savior of the Fallen, ..."
In response to Reply #0
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I will have to say, Kyn, that our first chats were so long because I had to slowly deconstruct your speech. But, sooner or later I figured you out. Your first few interviews were much better, in line of what I was expecting than later on, though that being said, I've seen worse.
In terms of tribunal, you had done mostly well, minus that one little mistake. You were on a path for promotion and greater things, but thats the way it goes, likely justicair or provost at some point.
Anyway, I hope you feel it was time well spent, regardless of the conjurer or anything else. Being one of the first followers of a new religion has to be tough, but hopefully fun--carving out new terrain.
Good luck with school and wherever you go, in terms of carrionfields, from here.
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#40578, "Thanks again Dalteric"
In response to Reply #5
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I’m not sure which one you are, but I’m sure I’ve never been empowered or had any lengthy conversations with you. You’ve got the whole ‘Immortal presence’ thing down pat. A different flavor than any I’ve ever had.
But could you have at least thrown me a bone? I was embarrassed every time I talked to you because I felt like you had to be giving me the CF equivalent of Pity Sex. I never had a clear understanding of what I was supposed to do, so I kept plugging along, hoping not to get underpowered and wondering if I even deserved to be! =)
I was also lost during your questioning. I felt that you had a specific answer you wanted me to give, but you weren’t giving me a clear place to start. It doesn’t have to be a leg bone, but maybe a finger bone or something. =)
I think you’ll be a good thing for the Spire, you’re not as Heavy handed as some in the past and you did provide good guidance, for me at least, in that aspect.
Hope this isn’t another Throw away incarnation, because I sense there’s ‘Goodt’ things, CF-wise, that will come from this religion.
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#40565, "RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Kyn the Savior of the Fallen, ..."
In response to Reply #0
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Was a lot of fun running around with you, you will be sorely missed by Mylinos. You where a good friend and companion. I always like the speech even when I didn't understand it but that was half the fun of interacting with you. Hope to see you around again.
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#40580, "I posted a repl for you"
In response to Reply #3
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But it didn't take apparently.
Yeah wee worked pretty well together. You had a knack for timing your heals on me with your Strikes of Faith.
It's never a bad day to have two Storms, one of each dedication. I can only think of one bad time, when I made a Drow aveteran in the Drow City. I'm not even possitive that was you who was with me.
I enjoyed having you around. Keep up the good work!
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#40562, "*Taps*"
In response to Reply #0
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Where do I begin? Well let’s start with the Immortal that Empowered me.
I had no idea what you were saying or eluding to mot of the time, and by most I mean ALL of the time. I ill-suited for your religion. The day I created, I’d seen you a couple of days prior and read your help files, and thought I could pull something off. I was wrong, and lost all the way through it. I tried eluding to that with the Ship and rudder thing, but I was tired and got all twisted up in it and left feeling like I’d just pissed you off. After that, I couldn’t get anything across with out over doing it and ruining everything I was trying to say.
As it was, In the end, after helping Zimel kill off Pruciable (SP?) And Lisl, I got this echo in Red…. (You feel your soul wither with your assoication with evil.) Complete with misspelling, so I thought I was supposed to report to “The Man.” Whoops!
In the end, I felt like I was wasting your time so with school coming up and a frustrating second mob death I decided to end it.
I started Kyn out with extremely mangled speech, but incrementally softened it up, both for my sake and the sake of those around me. I figured that was acceptable enough given that he had lived among the “Human Lands for upwards of 80 years.”
I tried to play him as a Politic Paladin more than a blood-thirsty one, and I was very pleased to receive Essence of fortitude. It’s a good virtue for a Tribunal Paladin, heck, it should be standard issue.
I hadn’t played for a few month or so, and I came back and jumped on in. I was killed in my Late teens and all my gear was sacrificed but a conjurer. He’s done the same to a friend of mine as well and I had characters tell me of it later on. I was so infuriated at the time, I broke character and complained to the Imms. I almost pulled the plug on CF again and went back to Mechwarrior, but a friendly chat later, I decided to stick it out with this character.
I really wanted to play him as a teacher and councilor to some of the other Tribunals and I was going to help all applicants that didn’t meet my standards to gain a better understanding of the Law and hopefully some geography. Ultimately I would liked to have a Leadership position or a Justiciar posting, where I might be able to have some greater influence. The end goal was to stop inducting evils and let the current batch Grandfather out.
I start school next week and I’m not sure I could make that work anyway. I may make another character sooner than latter, but I’ll stick with the more war-like gods I think.
I had many good experiences and only one bad experience but with this character, (With that conjurer) and I am curious what people thought of this character, if you take the time to write what you thought about him, I’ll take the time to respond.
Before I sign off, I do want to say thank you to Dalteric for the Empowerment, even though I wasn’t getting it right, I was having a good time and I appreciate the time you spent with me, I tried to incorporate your style with Seiichi, and screwed that all up (Soorae Seeichi)
Faer waell,
Just Kyn
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#40564, "Hmmm."
In response to Reply #1
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The time in the Prosimy, I wasn't going to attack you, I was going to talk to you, but oh well. I could tell you were new, but I am very glad you stuck with it, its not easy to empowerment characters early on, because mine only ever made it to lv 20 or so before I gave up. Good luck with your next character, and don't worry about the bad people in the mud, for every bad person there is a good person to even it out. Some people are just bastards I suppose. You have the ****s in real life, and you get them every now and then in game too. Just ignore them, and keep on with the RP and plugging away. Well done again, and I hope you come back. I also found, when I had my first successful empowerment character, to pick a religion/role that I found that suited my real life self, that way I just had a easier to time Rp'ing, and getting into the character and the religion, and well, it helped me slowly develop my RP. Well just my 2 cents, I hope to see you in the fields in another reincarnation, and good luck with school.
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#40584, "Help me out."
In response to Reply #2
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I don't recall that event in Prosimny.
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#40599, "RE: Help me out."
In response to Reply #12
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We had the scales, you were in Prosimy(sp?) the conjurer had fought the Huntress a little, and I came in and you attacked, and then I ended up killing you. Well anyway, here's the log.
<36mYou yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Kyn!'[0m[br/>Your defensive spin deflects Kyn's wrath. Kyn is in perfect health.
474/594h 399/399m 585/609v 3 PM civilized waxing 8566tnl> Huh? You fade into existence. Your charge <31mdecimates[0m Kyn
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#40586, "RE: Dear Kyn"
In response to Reply #8
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Seems we have some other things aside from CF in common. What branch?
I'll be sure to get that PBF for you.
Appreciate the feedback too.
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#40608, "RE: *Taps*"
In response to Reply #1
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From what I saw of you, terrible roleplay. Sorry but that one incident was really just unforgiveable for a paladin. I can't agree with a tribunal paladin at all. Especially not with the current crop of tribunals.
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#40609, "Huh? Who are you?"
In response to Reply #16
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That one incident you refer to must be the healing. It was all part of the character.
Personally, I think the spire should be run by Paladins, but that's me. It's my opinion that Maran Paladins are te ones who break the code.
If I was to base y entire of a Character off of one incident, all my characters would be as shallow as You('res).
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#40612, "Well you obviously know who I am."
In response to Reply #17
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But very little about my character apart from the RP I tried to induce with you. However if you want to be like that, yes, healing an anti-paladin is what I'm talking about. It's the most blatant breaking of the code I've seen. Think about what you did, read the code and read the paladin and anti-paladin class descriptions. It's not just a clever name.
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#40629, "I know exactly what I did."
In response to Reply #18
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Ever stop to think that that might have been a bit of RP betwee me an Zimel?
Or the RP of a character whose code demands one thing, while his oath he swore (On his code)required him to protect the spire?
Zimel and I had it out after words, and I allowed you the opprtunity to RP with me when I sent back to you. 'Perhaps that's why things are as they are.'
You more or less 'Huh'ed' and walked away. I forgot about you after that, because I figured you were one of a handfull who went out of there way to tell me I was a Coward, or that I should be ashamed. Aspects of the latter I was more than cognisant of, and played it accourdingly.
You never made any attempt at RP with this character that I could see, except for calling me names twice and having no follow up to any of my replies.
And I do know you, almost certainly by your tone, I don't know your name, or your characters, but I've run into this same incarnation, in the fields, and here time and again.
Still thank you for the input, I asked for it, and I expected some negative feed back, just nothing this low browed and ill informed.
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#40630, "RE: I know exactly what I did."
In response to Reply #19
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First of all, your first priority is the code. Think of the paladin guild as a cabal itself with rules. And you broke them. Regardless of your roleplay with Zimel.
Second of all, what happed directly afterwards was you attacked the village. The day after was when I spoke to you about it. And you said that's why things are as they are. I didn't "huh". I asked you what you meant. If you want to dispute that, I log everything so whatever.
I didn't "call you names". I told you you associated with evil. You can't dispute that either. You don't know me or any of my characters. I haven't played in a while.
I roleplayed with you both times I encountered you. Just because I was angry doesn't mean it wasn't roleplay. Dahoro is angry. This isn't ill-informed. I don't need any more information than you healed an anti-paladin. What else do I need to know?
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#40633, "This is your interpretaion."
In response to Reply #20
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And I may agree with you.
This was Kyn.
Full stop.
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#40649, "RE: This is your interpretaion."
In response to Reply #21
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My whole point is that if you do have this interpretation, you shouldn't be a paladin. I think (I don't know) that if your empowering immortal had seen that, there would've been repurcusions. If you want to play a character like Kyn, go ahead. Play a healer or a warrior or something. A paladin is a unique class in that it's the only one with built in rules. It annoyed me to see you ignoring the code.
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#40653, "Bit of an anonymous post, but needed reply"
In response to Reply #23
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Dahoro, Play your own characters first most. You made your point, although not as direct as it could have been, that were YOU to play a paladin you would follow the code. If another person BESIDES you wants to play a paladin and define a set of codes, they have every right to do so. If this definement takes them out of the Paladin class, then the immortals will do there job.
My final thought. If people were to stop griping about other people's characters and how THEY should play their character, and instead just play their own character the game could be funner.
EXB
ps. If Dahoro had a problem with this, kudos for the RP.. but would he care about law or the paladin's code? This seems more the pang of the player behind Dahoro.
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#40654, "RE: Bit of an anonymous post, but needed reply"
In response to Reply #24
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Dahoro's problem was with Kyn getting in the way of battle and IC, it was never more than that. And I am playing my own character. That doesn't mean I'm not going to be critical of others. This isn't an interpretation thing. It's not a grey area.
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nepenthe | Sat 20-Aug-05 11:55 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
3430 posts
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#40656, "FYI:"
In response to Reply #25
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I was part of the group that wrote the paladin code and I don't have a problem with what I saw Kyn do in this incident, given the nature of his religion and the demands of his roleplay.
I'm not a Tribunal imm, and I'm not his empowering immortal. That's just me.
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#40657, "RE: FYI:"
In response to Reply #26
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Ok. Maybe I'm not getting something. You don't have a problem with a Paladin healing an anti-paladin? I mean, I understand that he'd cooperate with him because of his tribunal role. But using his supps to keep him alive? That doesn't sit right with me regardless of your role.
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#40658, "The Concept of a Greater good."
In response to Reply #27
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I was defending the spire, not Zimel.
Even still, I only gave him that one Heal, then swore never too again. Zimel chewed me out about it. I was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. After that I decided it best if I helped Tribunals out like Zimel with my body, and not Dalteric's supplications.
Part of my role, in fact my entire role, was to accept that I could only truely be a witness to my own events, and had to accept that there would allways be ore than meets the eye.
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#40665, "RE: The Concept of a Greater good."
In response to Reply #28
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I understand that but the whole Paladin healing an anti-Paladin thing was just wrong. To give an example tt reminded me of Anakin cutting off Mace Windu's hand in episode III. The road to hell is paved with the best intentions.
Anyway, you needn't be so defensive. I just didn't have a good impression of your character.
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#40699, "Because of one interaction."
In response to Reply #31
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That' the part that's bothersome. You've no perspective yet you pass judgment.
The best part is, I know exactly what you are saying, and I've told you that it was my intention all along for this characte. Still you're stuck on the same tack.
What the hell more do we have to say to you? You are the one who just doesn't get it.
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#40705, "RE: Because of one interaction."
In response to Reply #34
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I do get. You're saying it's part of your role. Your character had no problem with it. What I'm saying is a paladin SHOULD have a problem with it.
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nepenthe | Sun 21-Aug-05 12:26 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
3430 posts
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#40659, "RE: FYI:"
In response to Reply #27
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In the general case, I have a problem with it.
In the very specific case that I witnessed, I don't.
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incognito | Sun 21-Aug-05 02:21 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#40684, "What about Lochzan then?"
In response to Reply #27
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Him healing me sat right with his role. He was a paladin that was twisted to evil.
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#40695, "RE: What about Lochzan then?"
In response to Reply #30
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Yeah but Kyn wasn't. I don't know Lochzan but he probably had some sort of consequence for that.
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#40698, "I told you in game that there could have been a consequ..."
In response to Reply #32
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#40707, "You said something about "things being as they are"."
In response to Reply #33
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If I had known you'd taken your wrap on the knuckles, I'd have no problem. I still don't see what you're getting so defensive about if you're admitting that this is not a paladinly thing to do. Note I'm not saying your character can't do it.
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#40718, "Eventually he did"
In response to Reply #32
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But before that he was just a paladin that didn't mind sancing a necro.
Ultimately he ended up being evil, with no supps but three virtues if I recall.
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#40634, "One more thing."
In response to Reply #20
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Then YOU need to drop it. You've confussed yourself with your character. Read what you wrote.
I'm done on this sub thread.
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