Sure, you tried to kill me a few times, and when you were in a gating mood I tried my best to inconvenience you, but I was never in a position where I saw the antisocial side of this character people are lambasting you about.

You were a cheery, talkative drunkard who occasionally grew bored and tried to kill me. Most people I interact with on CF try to give off a badass persona as they try to slay my characters so your healer was a pleasant variation, sort of a compulsive personality experiencing bipolar swings intermixed with a love for local microbrewery.

I was around my prime when I was giving you a shot, and this character alone is probably the safest I ever felt when it came to fighting a conjurer. To date, that is the most unknown and scariest class for me to go up against. I still have yet to play one to familiars.

We made for cool enemies in my book. Respectful even.

Tog was neat, and I am glad goodie conjurers don't nightguant. I don't entirely get why not, but I am glad they don't.

lame

Not being able to hack it, getting into a cabal,
and deciding to change directions and go for
the automated second, choice post-hero.

Don't forget, I was Selzar, buddy. I know
your history.

Edited - Not just Selzar- I was Rajker(Shapeshifter who thought he was a Kobold)

You however, win the award on lame-ass-douche-baggery. I just like to play the game and let things happen. I'm having a blast by the way. I also try to make it so other people have as much fun, if not more, than I do. You like to feed on the downfall of others. You suck.

Waiting till hero to go from scion app and then join Empire at hero is pretty lame in my opinion. Rajker was nothing but cool to you IC.

As Liralindalum, you too, would send me OOC tells ever since you and Dijur bashed/full looted me at my pit. It's cool though, I wasn't going to bring anything up until you started attacking me on here.

Now you're just insulting me personally and trolling the thread because, well I don't know why. I'm simply giving it back to you.

If admitting yourself to be lame is your way of retorting / contuining some sort of epeen argument, I'll just let you go ahead and win?

You win, big guy. Good job. *Golf clap*

I think the golf clap is getting just a LITTLE dramatic. Let's all take a deep breath before our pinkies get bruised.

The poor untrained pinky.

You like to embellish too much. If you recall, the FEW items I took from you I returned later. Also, recall you were the first to pull the full loots, mr. forgetful. There was a reason Dijur wanted to full you so bad. You made it your goal to piss people off, not to play the character you created, again. You suck.

With Dijur, and that logs posted on dios. It was a full loot.

Any other time I died around Imperials, I was entirely stripped, save the few times the Emperor was around, he would give me 'some' things, or order his own folks to not strip me. Also why I didn't do the same to him.

Speak of MR forgetful, you should read a recent log of you on Dio's.


Edit to add, you are posting with an active character. To save your own chops, you might want to knock it off.

What's the big deal?

Kurbrawn never fulled you. That time he and Dijur got you, he took only a few things, and later returned them. How can you say Kurbrawn fulled you when it was Dijur who did? Just because Kurbrawn helped make Dijur kill you doesn't mean he fulled you. Fooled you yes, fulled no.

You're making stuff up now, and here I realise there is no point to further debate with you. Considering this, our interactions, your current character history, and the log on dios, it's clear to me you're just going to say whatever.

I did a g all corpse, and I picked up around 5 pieces. That is NOT a full loot. I later returned it, which is not in the log but it DID happen. I had to give it to another outlander to give to you because you were throwing a hissy fit. If other people aren't having a bad time, you're not having a good time. If you're not having a good time, it's so obvious it oozes out of you and it rubs off on others. You suck.

You both were spamming get all corpse.

That constitutes a full loot. I also did not recieve any of
that gear back, nor did I ask for it. I shrugged, and went
about my way. That doesn't in itself, constitute a 'hissy fit' as you put it. What you are doing right now sorta does. Did you see the log Garm posted? I got a real laugh out of that. Thanks for backing up my earlier post about your lack of being able to cut it as a scion and going to the automated route.


I don't need to look at the log, I posted it.

You should stop posting for a while, your escalating attitude
isn't doing you any favors.

*Side note, as a scion app, you were a perfect *prey* as Garm put it, for a PK target.

Just because you're going to call yourself or character lame, doesn't mean you need to attack me as a person, which I believe is also breaking forum rules, and really, really showing you in poor fashion. I had a blast most of the time playing Liralindalum, which is less than you are showing me that you are having with your current.

Good luck though, sincerely.

"You both were spamming get all corpse.

That constitutes a full loot."

No it doesn't, and I stop reading here. You suck. BTW, the reason I say you suck is because I've defended you before in the past only to have you flip out even worse at the people I was defending you from and completely negate every good thing I tried to prove about you, which would make you and myself included look like morons. Please don't respond to this because I won't read it.

You should kill yourself. I'm not buying your jewelry. You suck.

Generally, when people post as current characters and make an ass out of themselves, they tend to put that impression on their characters as well. For example, I may have opened up the fact Kurbrawn was a scion app at one point in his life inadvertantly and this may have negative impact on his character now.

This wasn't intentional of course, but came out throughout our bickering. Second point, someone posted a log of him criticizing the Empire (reinforcing what I just said) before he joined Empire, possible because of our little discussion here.

Maybe also the fact that he is touting how "lame" as he says he is, self-admittedly, though still it may cause negative impact towards his own character from other players. Maybe not. It was actually a fair warning, but, people tend to hate my characters/handle so much because, well, Because! that they will tarnish they're own characters in showing their ass.

It just draws negative attention/perception to an active character. He would have been better off to use his handle, or post anon, or simply not even start anything at all.

But I had no idea you played Rajker since I don't recall anyone posting on that char (maybe I'm wrong).

So I just wanted to say I really liked that char, he was really fun to interact with on lots of levels.

He was before Fzoarn. Yes, way off point, and a nutjob that believed he was hatched from Kobolds. (I couldn't post back then)

I wouldn't have guessed that you played Selzar too, they both came through as completely different personalities.

Maybe you showed a different side to your enemies (that I got to see a bit with Fzoarn), but you were crazy good @ RP in the cabal with both chars.

I really appreciate that, I do.

Selzar was totally crash/burn. I just wanted too much, too fast. I was pulling 65-70 dam roll as a human in the mid 30's and thought I could rock it all the way to hero, and it just didn't work out. The power went to my head and well, you saw what happened so I let it play out.

You had your own niche, but in my experiences the most enjoyable characters have a groove, a background that you can keep immersed in and develop-as-you-go persona. If you simply have a backstory, then run with it, it's not so much as if you have a start-story and develop it, and let it keep going.

This has really helped a lot of my characters be enjoyable, and keep the RP coming. It also is what tapers the fun stick down when I run out of ideas, too.

When I started to feel ignored in the last 50-100 hours with Whiysdan, pretty much after I tossed him the chest and just really had no idea where to go next, I tapered off and lost interest. It too easily becomes about the enemies, and that just jades everything, at least for me.

Observe less, interact more, that goes for everyone. I had more fun poking at applicants, busting Yindathos's chops, grabbing someone up and picking a direction to explore, etc. than doing any raids or PK's, and I am a PK addict. That was a big direction I wanted to take this character, away from PK, and I think for the most part I accomplished that. You were a huge help in nearly finishing Octagonal Tower for once.

Thanks again for the compliment!

*laughs*

After a rough start getting back into outlander with Selzar and
crash/burn with the angle I took, I decided to try a Whiysdan
follower, and do something I haven't done, play a healer past
the teens.

This character ended up as a very cool explore combo w/beast call,
and I think I suprised a lot of people using it. Rarely did anyone
raid against me without overpowering odds, (rarely) and I impressed
myself quite a few times with some of the PK's I pulled out of my hat.

I enjoyed this character overall, and felt like I really got into
my grasp, but I can't understand for the life of me why (this doesn't neccessarily just go for Outtie cabal) leaders don't show
up! I'm sorry, 30-45minute logins is garbage. I took a week off work
and had the time and liesure to be around almost constantly minus
sleep and getting a new cat and resident cat to learn to get along,
and it just BOGGLES me how ill-often peoples times would be. There is some serious fair weather playing, or people just need to give it up and delete characters they aren't going to give the justified time to.

I was suprised from what I saw from the Tribunal side, considering what I had seen myself as Fzoarn from quite a few people. It really kills sportsmanship when people call you other characters (especially if you didn't even play them) and all the more when your patron imm knocks your empowerment in part for looting them over it.

I'm sorry, if you go OOC on me, use the newbie channel to bash me, drop f-bombs, or inadvertantly suggest I played someone else, I am going to full loot the #### out of you. I had to "fake the funk"
to get full empowerment back. I needed 13 notes from people to Whiysdan saying how I inspired them... I had 15 in two days, got full empowerment back in 4.

No hard feelings Whiysdan, I think between outside Imm comments and possible misinterpretation on both yours and my part, I just either don't grasp your stchick, or it's a lot more shallow than I'd like to believe. I won't do another follower personally, and really wish you hadn't more or less ignored me after our ooc conversation. The comet-robed figure was pretty much the last I got out of you. Even the 169 baked goods barely got a nod and hardly a tell. I think you're great, really, I do, just not my style.

Yindathos- I busted your balls hardcore as Fzoarn, hopefully as Liralindalum I got to make up for it. We had some neat dynamics and I really IC came alive when you were around. Thanks pop!

- There are a LOT of friends in Liralindalums lifespan, so I will save my one personal goodbye for ol yinny an jelly belly, the rest I will respond to, if you wanna pipe up.


Think I got all my negativity out in one big puke in the above posts, so, have a drink! (5 months an still sober, 50lbs lighter!)

My interactions with you caused me to use the ignore command for the first time ever. Pretty sweet command.

The above is not entirely a bad thing, you were always IC with me, just chaotic/stupid annoying.

Otherwise seemed like a pretty good character and a good outlander/healer.

G.

Having had interacted with Fzoarn with another char.. I like the direction you took this one a whole lot more! I thought you had a
very interesting roleplay and enjoy the few interactions we had with each other. Thank for the recommendation and the aid getting that thing the other day.. it had made a world of difference for me..

and remember... in an outlander interview... they are just some things we dont mention


GLWYN

That was a seriously funny moment, and boy did I feel silly.

Your unmentionable was pretty neat, I never realised that before. Comparing it to my unmentionables, who knew!

Totally welcome for the helpful howto book, I hope it gets you
far. Enjoy the goodies.

I forgot!!! thank you for the candy....

although I really dislike candy...

and I guess you realized.. I am no newb to outlander...

hope Cgadi sees some incarnation of you back there soon!

It's weird, I heard some bad things about you from other characters, saying he did this, he did that, and I listened, but never really brought it up with you IC. Why? Because I never saw it. I saw you get angry a few times, but characters, like people, are allowed to be emotional. When you were around, I knew we were gonna run around and have fun for a bit. I lost it in front of my computer when Dijur referred to you as my husband, and I think actually thought that. Glad you enjoyed him kid, I did too!

And I thought that was exactly what you probably were going for. IC Drident hated you and saw you as the embodiment of chaos. OOC I had no issues with you at all. You would pop up while I was ranking, getting Rods, randomly sitting in an area healing up. All those things are exactly what I would expect from an outlander healer. All that aside, Drident made it a mission to bring you to justice at least once.

As far as all the negative, I will be honest and say I thought it was you (Rogue) but not in a negative way at all. You reminded me a lot of an outlander druid from 4 or 5 years ago that was yours. One others did not like that one either but again I had no issues with. I have never personally seen any of the problems others do from your characters.

That monkey has a lag to it I can't easily count the rounds with. Even with protections up you have an ability to take me down pretty quick. Often as I sit afk, watching a show on tv or playing word games on Facebook, your combo *could've* been a real threat. At the same time I think we both came as close as we were going to get, without much room for getting much farther in a solo situation without catching someone with their pants down.

I still think that warrant you popped me with on a retrieval was bs, but noting Yantha about it as a way of stirring the pot was as IC as I could get about it to get you in trouble. You can't aid a criminal if you're both retrieving at the Captain.. bleh.

Cool combo all around, get yourself some wither wands or something.

Personally, I thought this character was great. There were times that I'd watch and just be floored with how well you were doing. And that thing with the chest was really, *really* cool.

As you could probably have guessed from the PBF, I did a LOT of just sitting back and watching/observing you. You are an excellent roleplayer. After you got that thirteenth pk, I was going to tattoo you. Then, as I was observing you and getting ready to interact, you started with the trash talk and trying to goad people in what I felt was a negative way. You thought I was ignoring you, but this couldn't be further from the truth. I watched you very closely every time the two of us were on at the same time (which was a lot).

I want to congratulate you on the strides you made with this character and this character alone. I don't know any of the other characters that you mentioned and didn't interact with them that I can remember, but this character saw some ups and downs and I really appreciated the roller-coaster ride and how you stuck with it. I think that the only thing that would make your interactions better (and make you and everyone else have a better time) would be working on those times that you go OOC on people. When you were in character, you were among the best. When you went out of character, it made things horrible for everyone involved.

Just for your information, that quote from your PBF that I posted was not during an OOC conversation. It was from me following and observing you when you didn't know I was there. You had just killed/full looted Dijur and were sitting there by yourself saying things like that in the Outlander cabal. We hadn't spoken for awhile in game and you were just ranting in an OOC manner (at least, that's how I took it).

Again, thank you for sharing this character with me and making it fun to interact with you. I really enjoyed your take on the religion and you shined when you were out there having fun.

Best of luck with whatever is next.

=w=

Maybe like basketball like religion. It would be very interesting thing....if not anything else.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

I was a hero Shield Paladin of Marcatis. I attacked a criminal battle bard on eastern road that you rescued, an PK'd me in two rounds.

Later you came into the Spire and offered to make me something over it and I told you that you weren't welcome in the Spire and needed to leave. You also put a comment in my PBF about it.

I pretty much said all I had to say though up above.

I still think if you did less observing and a little more interacting, this character wouldn't have lost steam. You seem to give off now that the chest was so great, yet at the time you dissappeared as fast as I gave it to you without much of anything. Even after I brought it up a second time. I spent a long time putting that stuff together, even as much time putting together the ingredients to make my own poppy rum, which you kinda shot down.

To me, I felt like I was just being blown off the whole time.

I had a bit more of exploration I wanted to do, and that's what prolonged the delete.

Yup, I definitely remember that character now. Sorry, I'm bad with names.

I won't get delve any further into things, but, like I said, I think you did really well with this character.

Also, thinking back, I really respected how you handled that with the paladin.

=w=

"After you got that thirteenth pk, I was going to tattoo you. Then, as I was observing you and getting ready to interact, you started with the trash talk and trying to goad people in what I felt was a negative way."

My 13th PK was against the Emperor solo, and there wasn't any *trash talk* or whatever you're saying there was. Matter of fact, I gave him almost everything back, including his sack full of trap incredients. We actually had a somewhat friendly conversation as enemies time to time, including after that PK. What are you talking about?

Maybe I should just put people on ignore as soon as I pk them, so I don't get my character sheets flooded with #### comments, and just keep RP to myself. Matter of fact, how about we remove looting from the game too, so Imms don't call characters lame on their files, and other imms don't call characters Dbags on the forums while the characters are still active too?

Next time I PK someone that slanders my character on the newbie channel, or says F-U, or goes OOC, I'm going to remove all drop all at his corpse, because that's the IC thing to do.

I didn't witness the 13th pk when it happened. I did, however, log on and notice you had gotten the 13th pk. Then I started observing and watching you in order to get ready to interact with you. At the time, there was a Tribunal raid and you started talking trash to someone that you thought was interfering. It was one of MANY times you started talking trash and goading people. I didn't like it. I still don't like it. I decided you weren't getting tattoo.

Something you need to understand, and I tried to get this across to you IC: just because someone else goes OOC, it doesn't mean it is okay for you to go OOC.

=w=

I want to buy them some beer.

Started off disliking you profoundly, ended up just disliking you to the degree that I should dislike any cabal/ethos enemy. Knowing that there was little I could do to keep you around in a fight if I was actually winning "forced" me to use the tremendously cheap tactic there at the end to seal the kill. The goal was to put a sliver of doubt in your mind the next time you were going to gate to me.
I never saw you go OOC in any of our interactions, just all the non-stop IC mocking that I grew to adore. I was without any sleeks for the entirety of our relationship, and someone seems to be hawking all of my limited prep areas, so I tended to die more than I should have.

Good luck in your future enterprises, I suppose.Having a highly mobile and driven enemy makes the game more interesting for everyone involved.

Great RP skills but you are still a shady player. Using sanc and subvert to kill a level 25 tribunal by having him flee into the Seantryn spikes. In very poor taste in my books but to each their own. I am not saying that is how it must be done but you must understand that was a greifer move.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

Nothing wrong at all with doing that. Tribby didn't know the enemy skillset, so he must have chased him onto the wall. It is his own fault at that point.

Generally if you see someone standing next to a deathtrap, you assume something is up.

And my character wouldnt ever let a criminal be up there anyways. Sometimes I hate the whole RP thing. Mostly when I have to do stupid #### I personally wouldnt do.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

And I killed multiple Tribs doing that as a matter of fact.

I also killed criminals as a Tribunal doing that.

Keep in mind, you get all of your gear, and no one is forcing you to oppress me on the wall. You chose to manacle me, you chose to *harrass* me, and IC I defended myself and beat you at your own game inside your own city.

You could go Iathi style, and refuse to bring guards out against me in town, *ever*.

Go team Chaos!

That is likely the only way to ever make me mad is make me lose exp in game because of how much I have ranking up.

Edit: spelling errors.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

"I'm sorry, if you go OOC on me, use the newbie channel to bash me, drop f-bombs, or inadvertantly suggest I played someone else, I am going to full loot the #### out of you."

Really? Dijur had never even spoke to you the first time you fulled him.

To be honest I am surprised that some people actually had nice things to say. From what I saw, and from the notes you insisted on sending me on QHCF, you couldn't tell OOC from IC. Not only did you talk trash "IC" to the point that it sure as hell seemed OOC, you talked THE SAME #### via OOC mediums.

You were the first person that I EVER had to ignore since starting CF. I first just tried to put on deaf but then you sent me two notes.
_________________________________________________________
*From : Liralindalum Purefire
To : dijur
Subject: And now you go Deaf?

Classy

From : Liralindalum Purefire
To : Dijur
Subject: Like I said

A coward, worthless without someone holding your hand.
________________________________________________________

I even had to complain to the VIPs over on DIOs (where you were banned anyway, I believe) when you wouldn't stop sending me messages.

You harassed me not only in the game, but outside of it. Not as a character, but as a little douche. Being an internet tough-guy says a lot about what you are likely really like.

Ever in SW Florida, look me up. I would love to take you out for a drink.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

You talked mad smack in game, then went deaf when I killed your ass.

I sent you a semi-friendly note on qhcf, because I didn't have posting abilities, and you went all nuts on me, and were quite frankly rude. Then you did this whole don't ever talk to me again thing, I can't believe you're taking this out of the game etc etc, like no one posts goodbyes.

You went a little wierd on me, actually. It's not harrassment to send someone a goodbye note after a deletion. What's harrassment is the incredibly disrespectful response you sent me in return.

You were nothing but a complete ass to me in character, and would go deaf/ignore the moment I pk'd you or made you look bad, yet if I died, you would instantly send me tells.

I'll repeat: Classy.

Oh, and I don't drink, but I'm in Central Florida. Feel free to give me an addy. lol

You are twisting things quite badly. That isn't at all how any of those things occured. Also, you hadn't deleted at the time of sending me notes on QHCF.

Maybe I am mistaken, following is the header of the first note you sent to me over on QHCF.

Dijur dijur dijur
From: BeerBuff420
To: Borkahd
04/20/2012 11:50AM

I won't bicker with you on these boards, but I will clarify.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

YOU deleted, I was posting a good bye in note form, to YOU, retard.

Duh?

I thought in your notes, which you threw such a fit about contacting you that you just HAD to goto the Vips and tattle, you didn't want to further communicate with me, and here you just keep going?

This is the exact kind of kindergarten crap you dealt out in game too.

Give it up already man, seriously.

Not sure what Dijur did in game that was 'kindergarten'. You harassed him in an OOC way so I, as a player, ignored you. Aside from attempting to stop communication from you I really have no idea what you might refer to.

Again, I'm still not certain why you felt the need to message me on QHCF even if it was a 'good bye note'. Didn't ignoring you give you a hint that I didn't want to communicate?

Anyway. Good luck with your next and I really think that you will enjoy the game a lot more if you stop just playing yourself and separate your character's feelings from your own.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

Then go back to read the notes I'm sure you have saved that you sent me on QHCF.

Read those, then read offering to take me out for a drink,
then make sense of that.

Then make sense why people post goodbye notes post-deletion.

Then take a notice how someone else in this thread used the ignore command but liked the character or at least saw me as entirely IC the entire time.

If you still don't have any idea, re-read the QHCF notes you still have saved, and the logs you probably have saved, and remind yourself that I'm the one "who needs therapy" as you put it.


"" Didn't ignoring you give you a hint that I didn't want to communicate?""

No, the big tip off actually, was that you keep posting on this thread.

I think Borkahd's a lot more likely to be an honest, classy player than Rogue. I mean, we've all seen the log of Ergow yelling '####ing' and '####' and calling it RP. And that's just one of Rogue's many misdemeanours. Meanwhile, we have Borkahd, an ex-HeroIMM known for his excellent RP as Borkahd.

Sure, Rogue may have a lot of emotional intensity pouring into the game, but he just comes off as a nutter. It's like playing a friendly match in sport against some guy who becomes this completely obsessed, aggressive, self-absorbed monster on the court, and then afterwards claims that it was all part of the sport. That guy's no fun to play with.

The IMMs sure like Rogue's characters though, but I'm not so sure they would if they had to play against (not alongside) him.

I like that example, good stuff. That is pretty spot on as long as you add a multiplier.

And thank you for the kind words.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

Im gonna throw this here since you avoided Selzar's deletion thread but you were really the worst character I ever interacted with in my entire CF history with Selzar.

First you looted me OOC then taunted me every login despite being out of pk range, and would camo and noreply after every tell, effectively circumventing the ignore timer rules.

I didn't interact with your healer and I hope he was better but I have never disliked a character/player more than I did Selzar.

Nope, Lir did the same thing. I forgot all about that. He would taunt then noreply and camo. At least I didn't get the classic "f you" tell from Lir that I did from Selzar.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

you have to be a real asshole to make a coder actually code this specific case so we don't have to deal with this ####

seriously, Rogue is making more work for our unpaid coding staff just so the rest of the playerbase doesn't have to deal with his ####?

gtfo that is nuts if you pulled that #### at a job you'd be ####ing fired

I assume you were Golmuf.

I took a couple items for myself, with every intention of
giving you the rest back, and even had already placed it all
just a step off the eastern road for you. I ended up sac'ing it after all the cussing and CAPS tells went through of course.

Had you not thrown a HUGE ooc fit at me, I wouldn't have screwed
with you so much. Nothing gets me more than willing to screw with
someone than an out-of-range-PK threatening to do this and that.

If you weren't such an easy target after watching you go off like
a nuclear warhead over midnight gear, I probably wouldn't have taken it to the level I did.

Even when I got to PK range, you didn't want none anyways.

It's not like I spammed you, I only sent you one or two tells a login in. Just enough to let you know I was around, and I wasn't going to let you have a day go by without knowing that I was there to change your mood. Selzar was a Lyristeonite at heart, through and through.

yep, it must be my fault you looted me when you were tons of levels outside pk range and it was also my fault you talked #### to me about looting me. And I'm sure it was my fault you then spammed me with tells every login for months and then noreplied/camo'd to avoid responses and circumvent code, and yep its also my fault you never fought me once when we were in range despite me being an obvious enemy of yours

lolwut?

Players like you are why I really hate CF at times.

He had no reason to do so and didn't play like that vs others.

Also, if you did play Golmuf, you shouldn't be that quick to blame
him for OOC blowups when you did the exact same thing to me after
I killed you and left your corpse pretty much intact to boot.

At least you apologized later, in these forums, and didn't delete
like a certain Imperial mug who has no reason playing this game.

I've played opposite and killed plenty of Rogue chars (Ergow, Fzoarn, Careashiin)
and the worst i've seen from him is nothing compared to what i've seen (and got)
from others in this game. That doesn't mean that I'm objective or see the whole picture,
it just casts some doubt to ppl painting him like the worst CF has to offer.

its a hell of a lot different to be a sore loser like I was when you killed me, to full looting someone out of range, then going out of your way to talk #### about it for 2 months and then camo/noreplying after every #### talking tell (and he would send me tons)

hes not the worst cf has to offer and does many things well but this type of #### is pretty bloody bad

I didn't full loot you. What lowbie DOESN'T loot midnight gear, seriously? The other 4-5 pieces were goodie only, and like I said, the only reason you didn't get them back, was for the same blow-ups that Golmuf is known for.

Btw Garm, I did't play Careshiin (sp?)

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>Btw Garm, I did't play Careshiin (sp?)


Wait, you didn't?? I swear you did too...

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http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=4&topic_id=67248&mesg_id=67248&page=

nt

nt

...between you, Pro, and Jerrokrar (Shapa also but he doesn't play that much...and Shapa is easy to spot in a good way).

I knew this was you the moment we interacted ONCE. You put me on ignore when I attempted to start an RP dialogue with you after you said something that my character disagreed with. It was so similar to past interactions with you that I knew instantly it was you.

You really need to look at your mental state WHEN YOU PLAY CF. You could be a completely rational, normal human being outside of CF, but I would have no idea because you're a ####ing asshole on CF with every character of yours. I even spotted your paladin within two interactions (which is better than your normal first interaction tells).

Good luck in the future.

nt

NT

However, this character just screamed chaotic stupid to me, which would be fine if you didn't have a bard outlander just a few months ago who acted the exact same way.

Back to the important part though, I liked the char. I just would have liked him more if he wasn't Ergow 2.0.

Weighing 220 now.

I can ravage your buns and give gaplemo something to consider if you need be.

First of all, in talking about "religous experiences" why would
to Paladins be attacking a neutral who is looting an evil?

This is the same evil that has looted the hell out of my character.

This is the same evil that has gone OOC on my character more than
at least three or four occasions.

This was a character going around telling people I was full looting
him long before I ever was, and I was getting tells from people I
had never even met IC before asking me why I was such a ass about
looting people.

This is the same character that used the newbie channel to trash
my character by name.


I've never dealt with you before, but I have had more than my share of Tirraeror and his hissy fits. The crap he pulled, he deserved what
he got, Every. Time. You're pbf comments are uncalled for. If you wanna put comments on someones file, you need to watch your own cabal.

You called my char a D-bag in Dijur's thread, so right back at ya.

Echoing my comments to Enlilth, watch your own cabal. My character's chaotic-neutral RP doesn't answer to "anyone", especially when I'm asked to present my faith. Maybe that's not priestly for you, but hey, I'm not yourfollower either, am I?

In the future, keep your snide comments on active characters off the forums. That's what the other website is for, you know.

I really felt like I started getting a lot of negative attention from upstairs after some events, and now that I'm seeing the kind of #### that you and Enlilth were putting in my file, and apparently how Whiysdan was interpreting an OOC conversation we were having, (quoting me in an OOC conversation, really?) it makes a lot of sense
now.

End rant.

Player goodbyes later on.

Oh no, so sad to see you go. Aww..

Second guess that this character was you. Not for one second, from the first time I met you. I was 100% sure.

Not saying it's a bad thing. But it's something. It was immediately callable as a rogue character, for what it's worth.

What is that supposed to be worth. It's a almost a running
joke nowadays for a few people to post that.

Whether or not anyone has ever gave reasons for it, or whether
or not I've ever really cared, isn't ever going to change the fact
that I have, and will continue to do pretty much what I want in
the manner I want, and more or less have a good time doing it.

The couple people that post "Oh I totally pegged you" are always
going to pop up, it happens every time. So honestly, there isn't
any value here.

Between Fzoarn, Selzar, and Liralindalum, at least in my mind, were all three recents were *very* memorable and highly roleplayed characters that quite a few people can take a lot away from. There's a small group that obviously won't, notorious as I am to give no RP-goodness to those that don't fit within my criteria of right and wrong, and ya know what?

I'm ok with that.

You also had your terrible, break role, go insanely out of character moments.


Try not having those, and I doubt anyone will be able to spot you.


PBFs are a good gauge of the imms watching the character. Your own immortal, and 2 other ones said they saw you go insanely OOC a ton. To credit you, it looked like it it got better late in the chars life, but that doesn't erase all the early times. Empowerment characters are watched closer, so there is less room to #### up. You ####ed up quite a bit, and they called you on it. ####, you blew up on me a couple of times for basically nothing. So I saw it first hand.


There is no excuse in my eyes, ever, to go ooc raging on someone. I don't think I ever have done it in 15 years of CF, and if I can control myself, the rest of the playerbase can.

Just because a character has feelings, gets angry, doesn't mean it's OOC. Liralindalum calling a cabal enemy a jerk, as opposed to a rager calling me a gear whore for taking 4 items while regearing after PK'ing him with another outlander(regearing from a Tribunal full looting me), are vastly different.

I'm not sure what Whiysdan's referring to with Dijur. Dijur made multiple accusations that I played Mondul and Selzar, would routinely full loot me, even though this in itself was breaking character for him. I know this from playing Fzoarn (I interviewed him for Tribunal, and went head to head with him as Selzar) and only after frustrating him to no end with my cabal defense and banter did he start. Even after I quite looting him at all, he still kept it up.

I'm either entirely forgetting what he's referring to, which is certainly possible, or he was simply misinterpreting, which seemed to happen often.

There was a specific conversation we were having after he changed my title wherein he is quoting me on the PBF comment, that conversation was an OOC conversation, obviously.

370hrs is a long time too, but to my imperfect recollection, I
don't recall breaking character the light that the comments put me in. Not in that time frame.

quit acting like you're not unstable, vindictive, or innocent

Not that it matters, and not that I neccessarily broke any rules per se, and not that you taking a pot shot is really going to make you look any better considering you pissed off an Imp to the point he actually closed his religion just so he doesn't have to deal with little people like you, who cares?

You will still be you, and I still get to be me, and that's awesomesauce.

I am not Delalken, Scarabaeus loves me, I banned you from qhcf, I always look good, and you're always you in which people feel nothing but pity for.

So either that's you, or you just cleaned out one of my alts for reading maps or poking fun at the cattle.

Still, you're just taking pot shots, and I guess "looking good"?

Gabe, who is BeerBuff420? nt - The Forsaken 04/20/2012 09:04PM
Looks like it is Rogue per imm source. I'd like to site ban him, fwiw. nt - The Forsaken 04/20/2012 09:09PM

And then you were banned.

* The second post by me will not make sense in its lack of context.


No need for potshots, I really do feel sorry/pity for you.

What's the point?

This is a Battlefield thread, not QHCF, nobody cares.

Or am I misinterpreting?

I mean its not like thats explicitly against CF rules or anything

I have mental issues

What Dijur stated was along the lines of, "Be careful of that one, he acts like Mondul and Selzar". It was a reference that he would break the laws, had a big mouth, and full-looted. Lir did, so it was a true statement. It wasn't an OOC accusation, it was an IC observation. It just happened that one of those other characters were played by the same person.

To accuse me of going OOC is a bit...well, stupid. I believe I have a fairly good track record when it comes to IC and RP but others can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

Looting:

After Dijur heard about Lir full-looting others in the Spire and was full looted twice by this character himself he made a choice to enact retribution. I believe Dijur was full-looted a total of five times by Lir. Dijur judged and sentenced, I'm not sure how that is breaking character at all. He looted you twice after Lir stopped looting him...and still owed one more to make it even. There would have been another after that as well which would have made Dijur up one and sentence considered served. Unless Lir was a criminal, then everything would be confiscated that could be carried.

I set an OOC rule for myself, and I have said this before. I don't loot more then an item usually, if that. My characters may take an item here or there and will take gold/preps, but in general it is rare for me to loot multiple items. This is an OOC consideration that I have. If there is a character that always loots me, I will return the favor if (s)he has something my character wants. As far as I can remember, Lir was the first character that I ever full looted.

I see nothing wrong with a character taking what they need or want but I think looting in excess is poor sportsmanship and just ruins people's fun. There are also people out there that loot just to be an arse which is just sad. I know I hate having to go gather armor, it isn't how I want to spend my online time and for me it just isn't fun. I would rather be RPing, PKing, and doing cabal stuff.

I would really rather you not refer to me or any of my characters at all and ask that you please refrain from it in the future.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

I never full looted anyone in the spire.

You called me Mondul, and Selzar, more than two occasions. You also often told me how similar I sounded like both of them instead of engaging in conversation.

Then you would refuse to speak to me at all whenever you would come to the Prosimy and get rocked. Of course, you would happily send chatter my way if I mob died, or you killed me with a party or something like that.

You stripped me several times, including twice more after I stopped looting you but kept killing you. I think this is because you are just bitter that a healer was whomping on you.

Still, I'm confused why you continue to post on this thread after you "had to goto the Vips on QHCF" over me responding back to your PM that you didn't want to further communicate with me. What is it now, five or six posts here? Talk about mixed messages, bro.

Now I'm not supposed to talk about you? Ooook, keep posting then, lol.

FWIW, I pegged you in 30 seconds of meeting you from your *wigglebottom* and "pbftftftbftbftbft" or whatever that is that you say with every character.

I've played hundreds upon hundreds...

This was probably the second character to use those emotes. Maaaaybe third.

Honestly, this was a somewhat reincarnation of Ergow Wigglebottom
in the happy go lucky sense, and I purposefully used a lot of the
same mannerisms. I had a lot more too, but oh well.

Pblththththth!

Still isn't worth very much, lol. I can't help I'm so easy to spot, I figured it was me using the venomwood right after using it with Selzar pretty much ALL the time.

Rough thing about playing characters back to back with me is not utilizing the same favorite gear/fetters so quickly. Especially exotics!

Someone says, hey there is an asshat outlander that has a penchance for retributive full looting, could only be Rogue.


Maybe stop trying to use looting the way you do?

I only full looted 2 people in 370+hrs.

A third person claims I did, but I didn't.

How do you define using 'penchance' with that kind of ratio?

Full may be a bit extreme but you are only one of like 5 players in the community that both has the ability to kill people and loots retributively for all sorts of broad reasons.

"You called me a twat? Ok next time you die I will take all your weapons. You ganged me? Next time I see your corpse I will take 4 things for someone else. You killed me when I thought I should win!?!?!?!?!?! Totaly full looting your ass."

I imagine those are the things going through your head when you are getting overly emotionally involved in the game.

>I only full looted 2 people in 370+hrs.

That's 2 more than 99% of current-era characters will ever do.

It's one of your tells. How much you care about that or don't is up to you.

Considering this character was the exact opposite of a PK style character, I reserved that kind of treatment for people like Tirr and Dijur, for the exact kind of crap they pulled in game. They. Earned. Full. Looting.

People nowadays, "current-era characters" are ridiculously coddled when it comes to looting. I could care less if someone things/knows they've *pegged* me, as if that's not obvious at this point.

Until you want to remove looting from the game, and just have a safe no-pk city where we can all emote spitting on each other and smack talk (Except for rogue characters, zap his chars for doing it) and everyone keeps their gear, nobody loots, then I am going to keep looting.

The current-era of post-pk gear saving sportsmanship is the most OOC bs I have ever seen. My character giving the Emperor his bag of tricks back was horrible, and one of the only reasons I did it was so Whiysdan didn't screw with me more. That's sad.

Do you keep mentioning Dijur just to get me to respond? I understand that you have 'issues' and I am sorry for that. Really. There are seriously places that can help you. I've asked politely not to bring up me or my characters any more and I'm not certain why that isn't enough. Have a little courtesy.

You keep stating that Dijur 'pulled crap' in game but to be honest, I really have no idea what you are talking about. I stay IC and I try to keep good sportsmanship while maintaining whatever RP angel I need to (evil, politics, whatever). I enjoy CF and want other people to as well. While it seems you love to cause grief, I would rather other people have fun and continue to play CF. I feel that it is people like you and Krilcov that drive players away and it saddens me. I'm sorry that you feel the need to act the way that you do.

Everything that you state Dijur did so far has either been simply false or it was him looting Lir back. The first time the two characters ever even met was when Dijur was killed by someone else and Lir fulled him, if I remember right. From that he started all of his smack talking, tell-noreply-camo, and other garbage.

Having to deal with players like you sucks a lot of the fun out of the game, at least from my perspective. And I don't seem to be alone in that opinion. If Dijur wasn't so close to con death I would have deleted him, just because I was so sick of dealing with this character. No it wasn't just confrontation, I enjoy the politics of CF. I have been playing this game for quite some time and I have never wanted to delete because of someone else before. Most of the things Lir did, like the notes, no-reply/camo, and looting didn't seem like the character. It all felt very OOC. It was the player behind the character who was acting like a rotten little girl.

Are you truly oblivious to the feedback that so many people have given you? The majority of people seem to have the same idea and be stating the same thing over and over yet you think that everyone else is wrong. I'm sorry, but I believe you have a false self-image and are a bit delusional. Is it truly that hard to understand?

You have been making characters that the playerbase generally doesn't want to play with for years. You seem to always have negative comments in your PBFs. I really wish they would just ban you for a month or so. After that, I would love for them to give you another chance not to be a douche. If you did it all over again then a more long-term ban. IMO you do not contribute enough to the game to off-set what you take away from it.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

"Do you keep mentioning Dijur just to get me to respond?"

No, I mention Dijur because he's one of the 2 characters I full looted, for going OOC with my character, as per the topic of conversation. You choose to respond, just as you chose to act the way you did in game. You can't blame others for your own actions.

"You keep stating that Dijur 'pulled crap' in game but to be honest, I really have no idea what you are talking about."

Yes you do, you're just getting upset, like you did in game. The only different here is that instead of using the ignore command and breaking role, you are continuing to post on my thread even after saying you don't want to communicate with me. Bear in mind you even went to the extend of outting one of my alt accounts on QHCF to further break off communicate from a friendly post-deletion note I had sent you, which you responded to with a rude attitude. You also offered to take me out for a drink, yet you want me to not ever mention you again. Talk about mixed messages.

"Everything that you state Dijur did so far has either been simply false or it was him looting Lir back."

You've already admitted to full-looting my character twice, after I quit looting yet continued killing your character. You're lying here, which echoes similar sentiments to your behavior towards me in game.

"From that he started all of his smack talking, tell-noreply-camo, and other garbage. "

This wasn't nearly as much as you made it out to be. You never replied anyways. You would only send me tells if I was a ghost, remember?

"Having to deal with players like you sucks a lot of the fun out of the game, at least from my perspective. And I don't seem to be alone in that opinion."

Maybe not, you're grouped with people like Golmuf's player. I think I'm gonna cry. The positive impact I leave on players/characters, I leave with people I feel are deserving and worthy. Considering I had 15 people write to Whiysdan in two days time regarding how I am Inspiring, is a testament of itself regarding my RP. My RP itself, has never been in question. Am I perfect? Of course not. Sometimes I just want to screw with people. Especially people that in my mind, like you and Tirr, deserve to be screwed with. It is a game after all, and I play with many different angles time to time. Don't be a dbag, and you won't have people be a dbag to you. Lesson here, Don't call people other characters, even if you *think* you know who they are. You called me Monduls player at least three times. That got old, quick.


"Are you truly oblivious to the feedback that so many people have given you?"

Everyone has an opinion.

"IMO you do not contribute enough to the game to off-set what you take away from it."

That's one of yours.

You still didn't answer what sort of 'crap' you were talking about. I nor Dijur did anything to deserve the behavior you displayed. There was that account note on your PBF about you flipping out when he took a breastplate...was that it? And, as stated, the full-looting was in response to yours. When Dijur died you had still looted him more then he looted you. Just because you stop doing it doesn't mean they were even.

Yes, I reported your 'alt account' on QHCF. I'm not sure thats why it got banned but...so what? You obviously were not supposed to have an account anyway. I think that speaks a bit about the type of person you are. You get banned and just make an 'alt account' and think that someone is in the wrong when they report it. That is rather dishonest but I suppose you were not banned because you are a good person in the first place. Do you not see anything wrong with making a new account to get around being banned? Funny how you are the sort of person that has peers that feel the need to ban you yet you don’t see the things that you do wrong.

You make accusations and exaggerations, you state falsehoods that you refuse to backup when asked for specifics and just ramble on. Nothing but garbage spews from your mouth and it shows through with your characters, which is pretty sad. You present yourself as if you have some sort of personality disorder. I think it is more than simply an opinion when numerous people reach a consensus about you...it may be time to take a step back and evaluate yourself.

Considering it seems impossible to reason with you as you appear to have your own sort of distorted logic and self-image, I won't bother making another attempt the next time you feel you need to be rude enough to state falsehoods about my character. You seem to have a way with bringing out the worst in people and I am sure it extends into your real life as well. I feel pity for whoever has to deal with it (though I assume you live with your mother). This will be my final post in reply to anything you state. I believe the general public knows the truth anyway and it is sad that I am not alone in my opinion of you.

That post with the link that someone had made and deleted was pretty enlightening. I really do hope that you get help, I seriously feel sorry for you.

Good luck.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist

"You still didn't answer what sort of 'crap' you were talking about. "

No, no I did, a couple times. You need to read before responding. That is, if you "want" to communicate now, right?

"I nor Dijur did anything to deserve the behavior you displayed."

Um... You/Dijur are the same entity. Obsessed much?

" When Dijur died you had still looted him more then he looted you. Just because you stop doing it doesn't mean they were even."

See above response.

"Funny how you are the sort of person that has peers that feel the need to ban you yet you don’t see the things that you do wrong. "

Gabe is not my peer. He banned my account for a Private Message between myself and Matrick the he has ability to read at will. I broke no rules, and he misrepresented privacy on his website. I don't find that funny at all. Case closed.

"You make accusations and exaggerations, you state falsehoods that you refuse to backup when asked for specifics and just ramble on."

No, I already did this. You are just overlooking them, refusing them outright although you've admitted to some of them, and now we're going in circles. ( So much for not communicate further, right? I am sooo forcing you to keep posting.)

"Nothing but garbage spews from your mouth and it shows through with your characters, which is pretty sad. "

That's why *multiple* Imms/Players have been quoted to ranking me among the best in terms of RP. Keep in mind I could care less in terms of approval from the masses, I play for me, however... The proof is in the pudding long before your little tirade.

"You present yourself as if you have some sort of personality disorder. I think it is more than simply an opinion when numerous people reach a consensus about you..."

This was made public many years ago. If you want to make an insult about a medical condition, more power to you? Welcome to real life. Thorw some more fits that someone stripped your warrior with a healer and made you look like a clown in a text game and now is *forcing* you to respond to no end, and take administrative action because *I* am the one with psycological issues. Yea, and I'm the one who needs therapy. LOL. My life is awesome, hands down.

"You seem to have a way with bringing out the worst in people and I am sure it extends into your real life as well. I feel pity for whoever has to deal with it (though I assume you live with your mother). "

This just makes me laugh. She'll be visiting us this weekend, but thanks for the chuckle, seriously.


"This will be my final post in reply to anything you state. "

I've heard this speak before!


"I believe the general public knows the truth anyway and it is sad that I am not alone in my opinion of you."



The power of imagination makes us infinite. -John Muir

>Yes, I reported your 'alt account' on QHCF. I'm not sure thats
>why it got banned but...so what?

Rogue's QHCF accounts are banned upon discovery because Rogue is no longer welcome to Dio's. Thank you for reporting his account to us.

Here's the thing.

You're entitled to your own opinion on how you want to play. In fact, you can be as douchey as you want, or be as big of an asshole as you want. Who the hell cares how people view you? You're enjoying yourself, in a mentally unstable way, and you find a sick sense of pride to 'get back at the people who act like douches to you.'

IE you can be as delusional as you want.

HOWEVER, what you can't do is successfully justify you being a douchebagasshole. People are you going to call you out. Times have changed. Instead of playing the same game with the mass who play this game, you seem to be content playing a different game.

It's ok, really.

But you know what, most of the responses in your deaththread is calling ####, what it is, ####.

You can attempt to mask that #### with some aerosol, or maybe put a car freshener there, but it is ####.

BTW, my one off incarnation dealt with you. I actually felt a little slimey after our encounter, and was thinking of deleting. I certainly as hell don't want to play with a selfish narcissitic asshole who, if I slight the TINIEST bit, whether IC or not, would do everything in his power to get even with me and try to make my time playing this GAME a living hell.

And yes, most of us see this as a game. You apparently don't. Or, if by someway you actually do, I think I'll stay away from you since you would be some sort of deranged unstable psycho.

I'm sorry that someone else out there has to feel the same way I do about this player.

Keep making quality characters and enjoying the game, Knac.

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"My view of Borkahd IC"
If you anger him, he'll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into his clothing. And if you're very, very lucky, he'll do it in that order. ~Twist