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EshvalThu 29-Jun-06 10:15 PM
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#94, "Changes - a further explanation"
Edited on Mon 04-Sep-06 11:40 AM

  

          

Recent emails cause me to realize I have apparently not made myself clear on the religion changes. I will see what I can do to improve on that.

I will only empower within the spheres of Beauty, Necromancy and Passion, anything else will not happen in this incarnation. If you seek a tattoo or entrance into the Court, you must be one of the mentioned spheres. Non-evils will get empowered via an appropriate mob, and non-evils will never get my tattoo or admittance to the Court.

In general, consider the Court and Eshval a cult with similar aims and ambitions, chief among these is to become a vampire, vampyre, vampyr or whatever name you desire to use. Bearing that in mind, only the humans, half-humans and dark-elves will be admitted to the Court, and there is a very limited number of spots. Further, stupid and ugly folks will never see the inside of the Court. Lesser roles and positions are possible, but never the Court.

Does this mean those who get in the court become vampires?
Let me just say blood is involved and very unusual gifts come to those in the Court...and once inside the Court, other secrets will be revealed. It is known that the secrets of the Court are not for public knowledge, and will be closely guarded.

While art figures into Eshval's life, and likely always will, it is not her main focus.


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Reply RE: Changes - a further explanation, Wilhath, 26-Feb-07 06:56 PM, #22
Reply Cabals and Court.. do they mix?, crackednotbroke, 16-Nov-06 08:05 PM, #20
Reply RE: Cabals and Court.. do they mix?, Eshval, 17-Nov-06 12:56 AM, #21
Reply RE: Changes, Just curios (Guest), 28-Aug-06 10:31 AM, #6
Reply RE: Changes, Eshval, 04-Sep-06 10:57 AM, #8
     Reply RE: Changes, Jynx, 06-Sep-06 05:24 PM, #9
          Reply Don't make me beat you. :P nt, Eshval, 06-Sep-06 10:21 PM, #10
               Reply Ok, then I'll ask a valid question., Jynx, 10-Sep-06 07:45 AM, #11
                    Reply RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question., Eshval, 13-Sep-06 12:20 AM, #12
                         Reply RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question., Jynx, 13-Sep-06 04:39 PM, #13
                              Reply RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question., Eshval, 13-Sep-06 10:01 PM, #14
                                   Reply Another valid question I would think...., Corilanth, 14-Sep-06 08:55 AM, #15
                                        Reply RE: Another valid question I would think...., Jynx, 14-Sep-06 09:39 AM, #16
                                        Reply RE: Another valid question I would think...., Eshval, 14-Sep-06 10:00 AM, #17
Reply Curious., Nivek1, 27-Aug-06 08:59 PM, #3
Reply Vampyre is used often in literary works in place of vam..., just a guess (Guest), 27-Aug-06 09:29 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Vampyre is used often in literary works in place of..., Eshval, 27-Aug-06 11:54 PM, #5
          Reply pyre as in funeral pyre. hmm. nt, Splntrd, 28-Aug-06 01:29 PM, #7
Reply Read Anne Bishop much? =) n/t, Randomizer (Guest), 27-Aug-06 07:18 PM, #1
     Reply Sorry no..., Eshval, 27-Aug-06 07:28 PM, #2
          Reply RE: Sorry no..., Jynx, 14-Sep-06 03:26 PM, #18
               Reply RE: Sorry no..., Eshval, 14-Sep-06 09:35 PM, #19

WilhathMon 26-Feb-07 06:56 PM
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#202, "RE: Changes - a further explanation"
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Should non-evil empowerees pray to you from your shrine or some other location of their choosing?

  

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crackednotbrokeThu 16-Nov-06 08:05 PM
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#144, "Cabals and Court.. do they mix?"
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Would a character have to chose between cabal and joining this 'court'? Or is there a way you could balance the two?

  

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EshvalFri 17-Nov-06 12:56 AM
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#146, "RE: Cabals and Court.. do they mix?"
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Presently, you do not need to choose. I can say that if your cabal gets in the way of the Court, you will have to choose...or I will.

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Just curios (Guest)Mon 28-Aug-06 10:31 AM

  
#107, "RE: Changes"
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Since you stated that you are going to work to empower anyone following your spheres but through an npc/voice etc. does this mean those are not Eshval followers per se?

I am wondering if a good or neutral empoweree followed you would it be possible or likely that they would if they took that path turn evil with time? Or are you looking to provide a way for them to get empowered and remain with thier original alignment for the course of the characters life?

  

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EshvalMon 04-Sep-06 10:57 AM
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#110, "RE: Changes"
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In the past, I have had good and neutral aligned characters who sought empowerment. Eshval is plain evil, and I do not feel a good-aligned character should follow the tenets of an evil god...that just feels wrong. Using mobs to empower those who are not evil, but want to follow the paths of Eshval, while not following her strictures, allows folks to play within those spheres without the stigma of following an evil deity.

I have been considering making a non-evil personna and path towards Eshvalism (minus the necromancy), complete with non-evil tattoo and all the trimmings. Perhaps if their is an interest, I can see what I can do.

So, yes...I want folks to remain their original alignment if they are not evil and seek empowerment. Much depends on what is written in their ROLE.

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Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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JynxWed 06-Sep-06 05:24 PM
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#111, "RE: Changes"
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>I have been considering making a non-evil personna and path
>towards Eshvalism


For shapeshifting instead of Necromancy. The non-evil Eshvalites develope Lycanthropy and a war ensues between the Vampires and Werewolves of Thera over whether <Insert Victim Here> are best because they Taste Great or are Less Filling!

  

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EshvalWed 06-Sep-06 10:21 PM
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#112, "Don't make me beat you. :P nt"
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Eshval's slightly off-center (unofficial) blog.
http://blackmarquessa.blogspot.com/
Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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JynxSun 10-Sep-06 07:42 AM
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#116, "Ok, then I'll ask a valid question."
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Edited on Sun 10-Sep-06 07:45 AM

          

I've got that you have to be either human, half-human or drow.

Do you have to be a Necromancer or is this something seperate from the Lich/Mummy/Vampire and there are a range of classes?

  

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EshvalWed 13-Sep-06 12:20 AM
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#118, "RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question."
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You do not have to be a necromancer, no. You only need to follow one of the Eshval spheres. Any benefits, changes or powers you may or may not accrue from the Court have nothing to do with your class. You do not have to know a thing about art, but you must be possessed of charisma and intelligence to receive any consideration for the Court. For empowerment, only sphere restrictions apply.

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Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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JynxWed 13-Sep-06 04:38 PM
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#120, "RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question."
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Edited on Wed 13-Sep-06 04:39 PM

          

"Any benefits, changes or powers you may or may not accrue from the Court have nothing to do with your class."


Would a shapeshifter be able to take advantage of such while in form?

  

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EshvalWed 13-Sep-06 10:01 PM
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#122, "RE: Ok, then I'll ask a valid question."
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Maybe.

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Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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CorilanthThu 14-Sep-06 08:55 AM
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#123, "Another valid question I would think...."
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Since eshval I see has a highly looked at RP god right now with a few followers, I had a question about the int/charisma thing. Eshval is obviously going to look at chr and int...is natural charisma really that big a deal with her? From a players perspective, its a pain in the ass to train chr, especially with a human, as a rp point, I can see the argument. Of course, you could act all noble and be wearing a +3 chr mask or something with jewels, would that be considered charismatic? Really just not looking to slip up on something stupid like that and be shunned because I trained con instead of chr

Thanks in advance

  

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JynxThu 14-Sep-06 09:36 AM
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#124, "RE: Another valid question I would think...."
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Edited on Thu 14-Sep-06 09:39 AM

          

While I can't speak for Eshval, I believe that the training of Charisma would actually be vital to the selection of Court memebers, because it puts RP incentive above PK incentive. Equipment, I think its pretty safe to say, is too temporary and a +3 charisma mask wouldn't change who the character is on the inside.

As for the rest, don't confuse charisma with Beauty itself or even nobel upbringing really. There are plenty of beautiful people out there who have no charisma and someone could act nobel, being all haughty, snotty and better than the masses, and no one will like them.

Likewise in CF, having charisma is really an RP thing more than a numbers thing, but the numbers are important as well so I'm guessing there's a lot more to it than she's sharing and you may want to make a character you think would be fun first, and if it fits the Court, then work it.

Personally, when I saw Charisma was important, my first response was to chuckle. I don't see it being an accident and it's about time Charisma was useful for something!

Oh, and I doubt you'd be shunned. She said the Court had limited spaces, but there would be people outside the Court as well who weren't quite so "Elite" or in the know. It sounds like everyone would still be able to be involved somewhat.

  

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EshvalThu 14-Sep-06 10:00 AM
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#125, "RE: Another valid question I would think...."
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As noted by Jynx, Charisma is a big issue with Eshval, who does not like or enjoy ugly people. She has no intention of surrounding herself with uglies or stupids. I will be looking at the Charisma stat itself, not the modified stat. Likewise, I will be looking at the intelligence stat, not the modified stat.

Are there minimum numbers that act as qualifiers? Yes. Will I say what they are? No, but if you do not have them, you will be SOL.

As a side note, consider if you would like to bite (put your mouth) on some dirty, greasy little duergar covered in scabs and so on.

Eshval's email
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Eshval's slightly off-center (unofficial) blog.
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Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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Nivek1Sun 27-Aug-06 08:59 PM
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#104, "Curious."
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Why did you spell it with a "y?"

  

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just a guess (Guest)Sun 27-Aug-06 09:29 PM

  
#105, "Vampyre is used often in literary works in place of vam..."
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also there is are historical reference to the use of vampyre. But I'm not Eshval so I can't answer for her obviously but there is at least a basis for the use of the alternative spelling.

  

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EshvalSun 27-Aug-06 11:50 PM
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#106, "RE: Vampyre is used often in literary works in place of..."
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Edited on Sun 27-Aug-06 11:54 PM

  

          

Yes, I enjoy the spelling variant, and I am allowed only so many letters.

I am fond of the Brian Lumley Necroscope series and had thought of going with Wamphyri, but its reference would have been obvious to many.

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Carnivàle
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#108, "pyre as in funeral pyre. hmm. nt"
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Splntrd

  

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Randomizer (Guest)Sun 27-Aug-06 07:18 PM

  
#102, "Read Anne Bishop much? =) n/t"
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nt

  

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EshvalSun 27-Aug-06 07:28 PM
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#103, "Sorry no..."
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But I am always up for a good read. I will check it out when I get a chance.

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Carnivàle
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JynxThu 14-Sep-06 03:26 PM
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#126, "RE: Sorry no..."
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If you like the preternatural stuff,

There's:

Kelley Armstrong's Women of the Otherworld series
Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series
Robin McKinley's book Sunshine

None of these books should be considered horror. It's all post Anne Rice "Monsters are People Too!!!" stuff.

  

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EshvalThu 14-Sep-06 09:35 PM
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#127, "RE: Sorry no..."
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Thanks for the list. I keep a written list for my twice yearly book splurge.

Eshval's email
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Carnivàle
http://cirquecarnivale.wordpress.com/

  

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