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SaldaritoWed 26-Mar-03 09:58 PM
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#7, "Herlad vs. Sylvan"


          

Hey Hey!

I am glad to see that you are back and your baby girl is healthy. However, I was shocked to see you come back as a Sylvan Deity. I still remember the last time I spoke to you in character as Saldarito and it made me shy away from your religion. It was because you told me that if I joined the Warders I would lose touch with the agriculture civilization which could inhibit my outlook on the circle. I looked over your shrine and help files recently and it seems almost identical as before. I guess, I was just wondering if it was your death and rebirth that brought sympathy for the grove since they apparently helped bring you back though the circle of life.

I understand if you want to keep this in character but I have not found time to play over the past few months since I left for college so any answers would be greatly appreciative here or you can email me.

I just still find it ironic how Saldarito was one of your early druids who lost contact when he joined Sylvan. Then in the later years of his life left the grove and joined heralds to come closer to you. Unfortunately during the process you were murdered by Zulghinlour and I age died with out truly entering the circle. I just wonder what would have happened and still find it funny how you were once a Herald and now are reborn to be part of the Sylvan Warders.

~Saldarito

  

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AmarantheWed 26-Mar-03 11:49 PM
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#8, "RE: Herlad vs. Sylvan"
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Most of this can be discussed in-character, but to satisfy your curiousity, I'll just say that Amaranthe is indeed still a matron of farmers and countreymen, though her life experience has somewhat hardened her to anyone who lives in anything nuch more than with basic necessities. Being decapitated by Zulghinlour even as she tried in vain to guide her beloved sister's spirit has made her feel that festivals are not the priority they once were to her, especially now that Poetry is dead.

To use a real-world analogy, imagine Amaranthe's followers as being something resembling the Amish. They frown upon modern industry and strive to live in simplicity and close to the earth. From a religious standpoint, this is mostly for the benefit of spiritual growth, as it keeps one in tune with the Great Cycle.

Not everyone in the Sylvan Warders would agree with the position of Amaranthe and her followers when it comes to the protection and respect for farmers and the like. The more 'wild' characters might see them as a pox, while adherants of the Coven would consider them 'men and women of the earth'. Now, if any agriculture on Thera ever developed into something resembling modern agriculture with giant iron tillers and spewing poison onto the earth in order to control pests and weeds, Amaranthe would have a different position. If you look around at the farmer NPCs in Thera, though, they are old school, resembling the earth-friendly organic type - men and women working the land with sweat and earth-stained hands, at the mercy of mother nature.

  

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KorranSun 30-Mar-03 07:34 AM
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#11, "Hang on, can you clear something up for me?"
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I mean you say your religion is alot like the Amish right?

I kind of see you and your religion to be much wiccans and the like. Is it or am I interpreting it abit off?

  

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QuisletSun 30-Mar-03 08:20 AM
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#12, "RE: Hang on, can you clear something up for me?"
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>I mean you say your religion is alot like the Amish right?
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>I kind of see you and your religion to be much wiccans and the
>like. Is it or am I interpreting it abit off?

If I'm understanding it right, Amaranthe's religion is like both Amish and Wiccan beliefs, but mostly where those two overlap. A love of nature without overlooking the agricultural aspects necessary for humans to live without becoming nomadic. Hunter/gatherer cultures often had to move when food ran out, while early agricultural ones didn't. So, much like the Amish and the basis for Wicca, Amaranthe's religion promotes living close to and at peace with nature, while taming a very small part of it for food purposes.

If you care to use a Biblical example, Amaranthe's religion would seem to work best in a place like the Garden of Eden was said to be. Nature was at peace with the people as well, and provided plenty for everyone and everything to live on.

  

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AmarantheSun 30-Mar-03 12:58 PM
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#13, "RE: Hang on, can you clear something up for me?"
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It is indeed sort of a hybrid of the two, with some other stuff mixed in.

It is inspired by Wicca from a spiritual standpoint. Wicca itself is sort of a conglomoration of pagan-y beliefs that can vary from person to person to begin with, so it makes for a flexible starting place.

The Amish example was the best way to explain the question that was specifically asked; How does Sylvan's environmentalists and Amaranthe's matronage of farmers and countreymen mesh? The Amish may not technically be environmentalists, but their way of life is probably more environmentally kind than that of your average Greenpeace activist living in modern society.

  

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UlulariSun 01-Jun-03 02:02 PM
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#24, "RE: Hang on, can you clear something up for me?"
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(Ok, so this was like a month ago... hope no one minds.)

There's more overlap between the wiccans and the amish than you might think (though most people in both groups, and outside of both groups, would more focus on the differences).

  

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