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mage | Tue 11-Dec-12 09:22 PM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
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#90, "Claw of the lion"
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Could you make this partial shift actually useful? At present, it POTENTIALLY does much more damage than horns of the bull, but unfortunately, most of the time, it's only potential. I would guess that roughly 90% of the attacks from claw of the lion just miss completely--not parried or dodged, but total miss. I once was trying to use this spell in the Vale on wilder elves, and sat there for dozens of rounds trying to kill the weakling, but only ever missed. I wielded my practice dagger then (with only 71% in dagger), and had it dead in three rounds (it was still perfect health).
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  Santa Zulg brings you nothing but questions and comment...,
Zulghinlour,
12-Dec-12 09:36 PM, #1
Test it at level 8 against elven sentries in Arendyl? n...,
mage,
16-Dec-12 04:35 PM, #2
RE: Test it at level 8 against elven sentries in Arendy...,
Zulghinlour,
16-Dec-12 04:47 PM, #3
 Ok, so it's heavily HtH based...,
mage,
16-Dec-12 10:29 PM, #4
Is chance to improve HtH with claw?,
Tac,
18-Dec-12 12:59 AM, #5
 There is now (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
18-Dec-12 01:01 AM, #7
That would make sense,
Zephon,
18-Dec-12 12:59 AM, #6
Claw of the lion with a felar,
mage,
24-Dec-12 01:33 PM, #8
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Zulghinlour | Wed 12-Dec-12 09:36 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#99, "Santa Zulg brings you nothing but questions and comment..."
In response to Reply #0
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>Could you make this partial shift actually useful?
Did you practice hand to hand?
>At
>present, it POTENTIALLY does much more damage than horns of
>the bull, but unfortunately, most of the time, it's only
>potential. I would guess that roughly 90% of the attacks from
>claw of the lion just miss completely--not parried or dodged,
>but total miss. I once was trying to use this spell in the
>Vale on wilder elves, and sat there for dozens of rounds
>trying to kill the weakling, but only ever missed. I wielded
>my practice dagger then (with only 71% in dagger), and had it
>dead in three rounds (it was still perfect health).
At level 8 with hand to hand and claw of the lion at 75%...
Spell: 'claw of the lion' for a very short time.
civilized <100%hp 83%m 63%mv 3600tnl (0.00%) 4 PM> kill 2.
Your vicious clawing hits a dockworker.
A dockworker has some small but disgusting cuts.
civilized <100%hp 83%m 63%mv 3600tnl (0.00%) 4 PM>
A dockworker's punch misses you.
A dockworker's trip misses you.
Your vicious clawing hits a dockworker.
A dockworker is covered with bleeding wounds.
civilized <100%hp 62%m 78%mv 3600tnl (0.00%) 5 PM> 2.
Your vicious clawing decimates a dockworker!
A dockworker is convulsing on the ground.
civilized <100%hp 62%m 78%mv 3600tnl (0.00%) 5 PM>
A dockworker's punch misses you.
Your vicious clawing misses a dockworker.
Your vicious clawing misses a dockworker.
A dockworker is convulsing on the ground.
civilized <100%hp 62%m 78%mv 3600tnl (0.00%) 5 PM>
A dockworker's punch scratches you.
Your vicious clawing decimates a dockworker!
A dockworker is DEAD!!
You receive 39 experience points (35% bonus).
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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mage | Sun 16-Dec-12 07:50 AM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
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#145, "Test it at level 8 against elven sentries in Arendyl? n..."
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Zulghinlour | Sun 16-Dec-12 04:47 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#156, "RE: Test it at level 8 against elven sentries in Arendy..."
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This is tied very much into your hand to hand, and fighting things much higher level than you is going to result in lots of missing. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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mage | Sun 16-Dec-12 10:24 PM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
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#158, "Ok, so it's heavily HtH based..."
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But wielding a dagger is heavily dagger based. So why does a normal weapon hit just fine, even with a large level difference, but the claws still miss? If both are heavily tied in to weapon skill %, then both should hit equally if weapon skills are equal, right?
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Tac | Mon 17-Dec-12 09:43 AM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#159, "Is chance to improve HtH with claw?"
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If not, if it is relied upon heavily, shouldn't there be a chance to improve?
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Zulghinlour | Tue 18-Dec-12 01:01 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#166, "There is now (n/t)"
In response to Reply #5
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n/t So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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Zephon | Mon 17-Dec-12 12:38 PM |
Member since 21st Mar 2007
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#160, "That would make sense"
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Perhaps it would "fix it" for shifters if they learned hand to hand faster when using claws of the lion. It might reduce the woes of a formless shifter.
I just use horns of the bull. But I always thought claws of the lion should be slightly cooler. But I'm still not sure how to make it a better low level spell.
I don't know the math behind claws, but it just doesn't feel as awesome as horns of the bull. Maybe its that horns can reach high burst damage.
I always have problems getting those low level spells up.
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mage | Sun 23-Dec-12 10:09 AM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
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#189, "Claw of the lion with a felar"
In response to Reply #3
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Since I have no form capable of going under water, I decided to try claw of the lion to kill this mob who was under water and wouldn't track me to the surface. The following is the log...
On a Sunken Ship
A large blue whale slowly lumbers by.
A priestess dressed in black is here waiting for someone.
Glarona yells 'There will be no place to hide after this treachery, A Felar Shifter!'
Glarona's divine power mauls you.
Glarona's kick decimates you!
Glarona is in perfect health.
<883hp/94%hp 655m/78%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power injures you.
Your stab grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<867hp/93%hp 655m/78%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
***Just for that increased likelihood to hit, I throw a faerie fire in to reduce her AC***
<867hp/93%hp 655m/78%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness c "faerie fire"
Glarona is surrounded by a pink outline.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<867hp/93%hp 650m/78%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You parry Glarona's divine power.
Glarona's kick wounds you.
Your stab grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<849hp/91%hp 650m/78%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness remove knife
You stop using a dripping bloody knife.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<849hp/93%hp 650m/80%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You dodge Glarona's divine power.
Glarona parries your vicious clawing.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<849hp/93%hp 650m/80%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<849hp/93%hp 650m/80%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power mauls you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<828hp/90%hp 650m/80%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness c "faerie fire"
Glarona is already glowing.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<828hp/90%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You dodge Glarona's divine power.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<828hp/90%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
con glarona
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<828hp/90%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Your best guess is that she is a human.
She has studied every path of elemental magic.
Glarona looks like she would be easy to kill.
Glarona is about the same size you are.
She grins evilly with you.
Glarona has a few scratches.
***Well, she's "easy kill" so level differential is not a factor here. If***
***anything, it should be working in MY favor***
<828hp/90%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power injures you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona dodges your vicious clawing.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<815hp/89%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power injures you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<800hp/87%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<800hp/87%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'iaza'.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<800hp/87%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing mauls Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<783hp/86%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness sk hand
Your ability in the skill hand to hand is at 100%(100%).
Glarona has a few scratches.
<783hp/86%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'xarr ay yucandus'.
A wall of fire partially encircles you and burns you!
Glarona's wall of fire hits you.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<773hp/84%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power misses you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<773hp/84%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<773hp/84%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'xarr ay yucandus'.
A wall of fire partially encircles you and burns you!
Glarona's wall of fire hits you.
You dodge Glarona's divine power.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<763hp/83%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power injures you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<747hp/82%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<747hp/82%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You find yourself protected by a halo of swirling air against Glarona's divine power.
Glarona's kick wounds you.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Your vicious clawing misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<729hp/80%hp 645m/79%m 503mv/63%mv> 11 AM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Comfort returns as you allow your hands to relax to their natural state.
Glarona utters the words, 'iaza'.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<729hp/80%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Glarona dodges your claw.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<711hp/78%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'iaza'.
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<691hp/75%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<691hp/75%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<672hp/73%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw misses Glarona.
With a quick twist Glarona moves to the side of your claw.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<652hp/71%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'xarr ay yucandus'.
A wall of fire partially encircles you and burns you!
Glarona's wall of fire hits you.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<640hp/70%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<640hp/70%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You dodge Glarona's divine power.
Your claw grazes Glarona.
Your claw grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<640hp/70%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'iaza'.
Glarona's divine power injures you.
Glarona dodges your claw.
Your claw hits Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<624hp/68%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<624hp/68%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Glarona dodges your claw.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<606hp/66%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness l
On a Sunken Ship
The water begins to grow cold around you as you find very little light this
far down in the ocean. You can barely make out the light above, but a cold
damp darkness engulfs you almost entirely. You have stumbled upon a large
wooden structure. It looks as though you have found the ships bow.
A large blue whale slowly lumbers by.
(Pink Aura) A priestess dressed in black is here waiting for someone.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<606hp/66%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Glarona dodges your claw.
Your claw injures Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<586hp/64%hp 646m/79%m 528mv/66%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness flee
Deep in the Aryth Ocean
A larger male storm giant lazily swims by.
You flee from combat!
<586hp/64%hp 646m/79%m 520mv/65%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
c "detect magic"
You lost your concentration.
<586hp/64%hp 644m/79%m 520mv/65%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness whe
c "detect magic"
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<586hp/64%hp 644m/79%m 520mv/65%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
You lost your concentration.
<586hp/64%hp 642m/79%m 520mv/65%mv> 12 PM 20914tnl (-17.17%) wilderness
c "detect magic"
Your eyes tingle as they begin to see raw magic.
You have become better at detect magic (76%)!
<586hp/64%hp 637m/78%m 520mv/65%mv> 12 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
sca a
You scan north.
You scan south.
***** Range 1 *****
A female storm giant smiles as you approach.
***** Range 2 *****
A pale young storm giant swims around avoiding the light.
You scan east.
***** Range 1 *****
A large blue whale slowly lumbers by.
(Pink Aura) (Barrier) A priestess dressed in black is here waiting for someone.
***Yes, she has barrier to boost her AC, but wouldn't faerie fire negate the AC aspect?***
You scan west.
You scan up.
***** Range 1 *****
A young storm swims around chasing fish around.
You scan down.
<586hp/64%hp 638m/78%m 545mv/68%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<586hp/64%hp 638m/78%m 545mv/68%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness e
On a Sunken Ship
A large blue whale slowly lumbers by.
(Pink Aura) (Barrier) A priestess dressed in black is here waiting for someone.
<586hp/64%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona yells 'There will be no place to hide after this treachery, A Felar Shifter!'
Glarona's divine power mauls you.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<565hp/62%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power mauls you.
Your claw grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<544hp/59%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'qaihfarrze yucandusbarr'.
A ball of fire streaks from Glarona's hands towards you!
Glarona's fireball hits you.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<535hp/58%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<535hp/58%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Your claw grazes Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<517hp/56%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona utters the words, 'xarr ay yucandus'.
A wall of fire partially encircles you and burns you!
Glarona's wall of fire injures you.
You find yourself protected by a halo of swirling air against Glarona's divine power.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
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People near you:
(PK) Me On a Sunken Ship
Glarona has a few scratches.
<504hp/55%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
On a Sunken Ship
The water begins to grow cold around you as you find very little light this
far down in the ocean. You can barely make out the light above, but a cold
damp darkness engulfs you almost entirely. You have stumbled upon a large
wooden structure. It looks as though you have found the ships bow.
A large blue whale slowly lumbers by.
(Pink Aura) (Barrier) A priestess dressed in black is here waiting for someone.
Glarona's divine power wounds you.
Your claw misses Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<487hp/53%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
Glarona's divine power mauls you.
Glarona's kick decimates you!
Your claw misses Glarona.
Your claw wounds Glarona.
Glarona has a few scratches.
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness af bar
You are affected by:
Spell: 'barrier' modifies armor class by -80 for 6 hours.
Glarona has a few scratches.
***Barrier gives -80 AC, right? Let's see what my faerie fire does...***
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 533mv/67%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness flee
Deep in the Aryth Ocean
You flee from combat!
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
sp faerie fire
Your ability in the spell faerie fire is at 85%(85%), and it costs 5 mana.
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness af
You are affected by:
Spell: 'detect magic' for 56 hours.
Spell: 'detect invis' for 47 hours.
Spell: 'haste' modifies dexterity by 4 for 22 hours.
Timer: 'scales of the dragon' for 21 hours.
Spell: 'scales of the dragon' modifies armor class by -30 for 10 hours.
Spell: 'water breathing' for 10 hours.
Spell: 'barrier' modifies armor class by -80 for 6 hours.
Spell: 'stone skin' modifies armor class by -40 for 5 hours.
Skill: 'hydrophobia' modifies morale by -33 for 5 hours.
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
c "faerie fire" faerie fire self
They aren't here.
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<439hp/48%hp 638m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness
c "faerie fire" self
Your memory of faerie fire has become impaired as you target yourself!
You are surrounded by a pink outline.
<439hp/48%hp 633m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness whe
People near you:
(PK) Me Deep in the Aryth Ocean
<439hp/48%hp 633m/78%m 521mv/65%mv> 1 PM 20912tnl (-17.15%) wilderness af
You are affected by:
Spell: 'detect magic' for 56 hours.
Spell: 'detect invis' for 47 hours.
Spell: 'haste' modifies dexterity by 4 for 22 hours.
Timer: 'scales of the dragon' for 21 hours.
Spell: 'scales of the dragon' modifies armor class by -30 for 10 hours.
Spell: 'water breathing' for 10 hours.
Spell: 'faerie fire' modifies armor class by 104 for 8 hours.
Spell: 'barrier' modifies armor class by -80 for 6 hours.
Spell: 'stone skin' modifies armor class by -40 for 5 hours.
Skill: 'hydrophobia' modifies morale by -33 for 5 hours.
***Yep! Faerie Fire more than negates the AC boost from Barrier. So out of 18***
***vicious clawing attempts that bypassed her parry/dodge, only one of them***
***actually hit. The rest completely missed. However, once the spell ended ***
***and I was fighting with just normal felar claws, I had 17 claw attacks ***
***that bypassed her parry/dodge, and out of those 17 attacks, 8 of them hit.***
***So here we have a fight between me and a mob of lower level, and once again,***
***my normal weapon (hand to hand (claw)) attacks landed significantly more ***
***than my claw of the lion attacks. And since I'm playing a felar, HtH is 100%,***
***so that's not a problem either.***
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Claw of the Lion is supposed to be an offensive spell, so why does it
have a reduced chance to hit compared to normal weapon attacks? As an
offensive spell, which is supposed to BOOST your combat ability, shouldn't it give you an INCREASED chance to hit?
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